I borrowed a guys Act Labs shifter before I bought the SST and I agree. Compared to the SST it feels like a toy. The A1 designed Act Labs RS2006 are much better quality then the shifter. You not going to break the SST. Throw it against a brick wall. Pick it up. Plug it in and use it. J/K. Don't try that. It is tough though.
I really do like my RS2006 pedals. Though, I'm going to be trying a set of the new fanatec Clubsport Pedals soon.
More features and the same price as the RS2006 pedals. They are coming soon in Febuary for USA and UK. Looking at the specs I don't see how any other pedal can come close to them right now for the price.
If you are thinking about a shifter this is very hard to beat any price. Very tough piece of gear.
DF GT is just awesome for the price. It is a good base to work off of if you want to add custom pedals or a shifter in the future. I have done both in increments.
DF GT @450 Degrees. Actlabs RS2006 pedals ( made a brake damper out of one of my kid's Christmas Stocking stuffers after she threw it on the gas stove top...with the top lit.....just singed a bit) and a Sim-Gear Lightning SST H Shifter when it can be used in LFS. Other wise I modded a set of really quick slappy paddles on the back and did it without voiding the warranty. The button paddles just suck and I don't reach them well... you know what they say about guys with small hands...... You can really slap the bee-haysuse out of these like i've seen some formula drivers do before. Paddle throw is prolly about 1/8 inch or a bit more. This mod would work on the DFP as well.
Though I am about to pre-order the Fanatec Clubsport Pedals and give them a try...if they don't live up to the hype I'm going to continue saving for a full set of CST GT style pedals.
The only way I could possible argue that engine braking doesn't matter (in LFS) if that LFS doesn't, that I know of, doesn't have disk wear, pad wear, overheating brakes resulting in fade. I suppose if it did then using engine braking a little could help maintain the integrity of the brakes longer during racing. Though, this could have adverse effects on the drive train components. But still. If the vehicle was setup in a manner where the coast effect of a limited slip diff could stabilize the car when throttle is applied during braking and down shifting??? Maybe?? Especially toward the end of braking at turn in where you would need to try roll to more throttle from the brake switching to power effect of LSD?? The torque of the engine applied to the wheels though the gearbox, diff should allow the car to be pulled toward the road at the rear?? Or I guess we could say keeping the chassis loaded at the transition point?
Pretty sure I just babbled about this like "W". Sorry if it sounds a bit skewed...
My wife is bugging me to go to the store and then comes in here and then drops a jury duty notice on my keyboard.... bah!!
I own the Act Labs RS2006 pedal set. It is nice and well made. The throttle is smooth and you can be quick with the clutch. I do wish the brake was a loadcell though. For that reason I will be purchasing a set of Fanatec Clubsport pedals soon to see how they feel. At about the same cost as the Act Labs and with more bonus features its a no brainer.
Sim-Gear.com makes a really nice H pattern shifter called the Lightning SST. I own this shifter and love it. They haven't made any pedals yet, but maybe one day will.
A Load Cell is not rubber. Though rubber damper would be needed in the assembly for it to work well. It is basically the electronic device that are used in digital scales. If measures force or pressure. So the harder you push the harder you brake. Very smooth braking.
This one is supposed to do sort of what you are talking about. It has a load cell as well as feedback actuator. However, with out some very tricky programming I am not sure LFS will be able to correctly output the information needed to allow the feedback to work as accuratly as it could. Mind you not realistic feeback, but feedback none the less.
Demo drivers are potential customers. Customers = Net income. Net income - overhead = profit and family income for a few guys making a awesome simulator so we can do something most of us can't do in real life.
Jay
Edit: And really. Just be Happy his name isn't Dr1ft_Dr1v3r_13370R5.
Minus the specifics you mentioned this has been discussed and said there shouldn't be any feedback (Edit: Feedback IRL). However, this would be a good feature to be able to have for brakes or even a way to vibrate the seat more accuratly since we can't have true seat of the pants feel... that is until Scawen and the boys figure out a way to manipulate our nervous systems and inject a insim packets directly to our brains. Fingers crossed and I'm willing to beta test. Just throwing that out there. Until then the ability to utilize more hardware available would be a plus. All we need is wheel spin insim packets. The third party devs will handle the rest. After all we can use H pattern gear boxes even though most all if not all H pattern gear boxes feel like controllers as apposed to a real gear box. I want realism as much as the next joe sim racer out there. But, I and other sim races would like more feedback from sim racing. This isn't a revolutionary step and nor should it be considered one. It is doable and a reasonable request.
Jay Odom
Edit: I said insim packet. I should have said outsim. My error.
All we need to make this really awesome is a insim packet that can transmit what tyres are locking.
I suppose a program could be written that causes feedback to occur based on :
If the brake is applied and if the RMPs are making a sudden drop based on packets received in that past 1/2 second?? ..though this won't cover the wheels that coast or in the case of AWD cars which wheels have lesser or greater center torque split.
I agree with you 100%. I want the CSTs and could afford to purchase them...only problem is at what expense to my family... Could I do something else with the money? I need a real seat instead of killin' it in these desk chairs..... These look like a good alternative for the moment. If I get them and hate them there is always ebay. And then CSTs.
Edit: The most appealing thing of the CST's is the load cell. Which can be purchased on these pedals now. Plus. If you look at the design of the Club Sport Pedals you would use it as a really nice base and do a CST DIY custom load cell like Todd used on the CSTs.
I was planning on putty 600 or 700 USD on a set of CST pedals mainly for the load cell. In light that you can buy these pedals by them self for 200 I'm going to have to try them first. I still want the CST pedals, but as of now we are a one income family and the thought of 700 dollars just doesn't sit well. Combined with my DFGT and SST shifter this should hold me over for a good bit.
If you do that much with hardware setup a drive with your image on it so you don't have to reinstall windows and LFS. Surely someone that changes hardware this much has a extra hard drive hanging around and I'm sure you don't change the CPU more then once a week. And if you did change the CPU more then this surely it wouldn't be for a prolonged amount of time. Maybe you do. Perhaps there is way to edit the registry to manually change the CPU ID so that it appears to be the CPU you unlocked LFS with. Not even sure if that is possible, but everything that windows uses to reference and object tied to the OS is the registry.
Try this location Don't know what it will do. If you try and bit the big one it isn't my fault.
-->HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor
Anyways. Thats my solution(s) to the problem at hand.
I suppose if we wanted to dig for what is realistic about it we could pretend the it so the turbos in the cars cool down before they stop. I had to do this in my old Talon TSI (eclipse GSX) for at least one minute before turning it off. Was good for the bearings or something. I've seen some cars that have a after market ignitions that does it after a few minutes. Though, only some cars have turbos in LFS......
The Scirocco is in more then one way a step in a new direction for LFS.
I noticed this thread today, but was unable to read through any thing but the first post. I had a feeling of disappointment. Christmas time is coming and I am not going to be behind a computer coding or working out a problem for a user. I planned on hanging out with my brother from Atlanta, parents and most importantly wife and 3 year old daughter. Almost as important was putting some serious time in on the Scirocco. Doesn't look like that will happen after all.
I admit. I thought of the cons first. I suppose that is a natural thing to do sadly. But, I did.
Then I began to think. How much I've worked over the past year to come to the level I am at in LFS. (off subject: I have something else to admit. I bought LFS in Dec 2007 and made it my new years resolution. Silly, but what the hell right?)..anyways.... I found LFS by accident and have driven this simulator more then i've played any game ever. Even Gran Turismo 1 which in the Summer of 98 took over a big part of my life. I try to treat LFS as though it is real. Not to a point of becoming disconnected from reality, but to enjoy and make the most of what is available to us. I consider this my part in LFS and I have great pride in always trying to be a better community member and a better driver. From all that I've seen from the devs they do the exact thing at their end of LFS. If you have always wondered why this Sim is so great?? Scawen's post in this thread is good example why. It shows the attitude. People that create things can't wait for you to see them. So they aren't holding out. The point of creating something you love is so others can enjoy it too. I would be willing to bet that this let down the devs more then it did us. Those that are flaming here should consider picking them self's up as the LFS Team has done and continue on.
My more current thoughts on the specifics to the new car and it's limited setup options goes like this:
Awesome!! This is awesome!! This could be some of the closest racing LFS has seen to date. I would assume there won't be any Locked-Diffs and we must treat the vehicle in more realistic manner to drive better. It is funny, but over the last few months on several occasions a team mate and myself has discussed how in spec racing there are limited setups. And Behold!!! The Scirocco is on it's way!!! It's almost like our minds were read. The way I see it now is this could separate the men from the boys.
Thanks for taking the time to read and I can't wait see where this goes.
It would be an interface engine custom writen for insim. There would need to have a database, something thin and simple to store the information while processing. I guess you could us a cached file for quickness. Or use a database server to store the information in a organized manner so you could retrieve it later if needed. I've been exposed a big interface engine for connecting healthcare systems together before. It is no easy task. To build it you would have to know insim backward and forward and have rule defined for each app sending. Recieving end of apps could be funny becuase you would have to know where the data was heading. This would go back to defining each app in the cluster (if you want to call it a cluster) so you know where to relay the data.
If you were going to go to all this trouble it would be better to write an app that does the job of all the apps you want to connect to.
Wait.. You can load Windows onto a Mac and just reboot into it instead? I haven't worked with a Mac since my IIvx of the early 90's. I would like to know.
You might try installing Ubuntu Linux on your Mac since it appears that it is a Intel based MacBook and Nvidia Graphics hardware is well supported in Linux. After that try out Cedega for Linux systems. It will run most PC games and LFS has been tried before. The cedega support team might not officially support it, but it appears it will operate under Linux and Cedega. --> http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3179
Cedega is an API instead of Virtualzation or Emulation software. LFS being based on the Directx 8 API should be very compatible. Being an API there will be less overhead compared to other methods. Linux can be jicky at times, but you will find developers on the Linux platform do some off the wall things that some people need and other company's just don't see the point in doing.
There is a free demo of Cedega and I have friends that have used it for directx 8 and 9 based games. Some of them even said games ran better in the less bloated linux environment. Everything about linux is lite and quick. It really would be a great base for main stream PC gaming if there were more linux users out there.
The only down side I can think of is you have purchase a subscription to Cedega to continue using it (25 dollars for six month or 45 for a whole year). Although you wouldn't limited to just LFS. You can play just about anything on Cedega and Linux.
Hope this helps you out. At the price of free to find out should be worth your time.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I think what you mean is you are asked if they may search your vehicle. And i might as well stop you from thinking they should be nice. Nice is not in an officers job description. If at that point you don't comply the officer can get a warrant from a Judge to search your vehicle. If you resist the officers (sure to be more then one by this time) then you go to jail. Poor judgment to let it go this far. And if you were riding around with anything illegal in the car, then thats your own fault and you should be deported. If they did violate peoples rights all the time like you way..and I'm not sure you working here and being from france does not give you any temporary privileges to our Constitution and it's amendments......there would plenty of attention to it as members of the more progressive groups in the USA would raise all hell to expose it. And if it were true then rightly so.
BTW we have "rights" and "freedoms", but this also means we have the right and freedom to screw up and do the wrong thing. Then pay the consequences Freedom, as we have here is a two way street. You must do your part.
I should also note that in my experience this searches are normally dished out to individuals that A: Have smart attitude. You would have to stupid or high to be a smart ass to a officer. B: Reek of drugs/alcohol C: Or you are acting suspect. For the record. I have had my house searched once and my car twice. The house was a full on strip search btw. Two or those time were my fault and I should have used better judgment. The other time was because a K9 alerted on my car and all they found was a bag of dog food.
I've observed comments you have made regarding the United States and smirk remarks about religion and they were not provoked by members of LFS Community. Unlike my post here provoked by you. These are uncalled for. If you have some kind of agenda you should drop it from these forums now. We are here for LFS, not you. From what I understand you are here working and are from france. If you are unsatisfied I'm sure there is a plane leaving soon... However, if you think there is something here for you and you would like to take part in our society in the way that all people here are rooted....Welcome to The United States.
There is a friend of mine on the Forums here that made his own. It is pretty nice. You might PM him and see what would be involved with making your own. legoflamb is his ID here on the forums. Tell him I referred you to him.