Quote from Hyperactive :

[...]However some smaller tweaks can be done on real cars, so these little tweaks should be doable on LFS cars too. Allow few degrees for changing castor angles. No big deal. Change stiffer suspension. What kind of suspensions components? Just slightly stiffer. Ok. Increasing steering lock to 45 degrees? No way, are you one those drifters? **** off!

The point is that the cars in LFS aren't 100% standard so you can't say that real Starion etc. doesn't have 45 degrees of steering lock. Neither has it stiff racing suspension, racing dampers, racing brakes etc...[...]

Hyperactive: Great post, funny is that what you have said was repeated in this thread several times already.. Guys saying "no 45 degrees" seem to ignore this argument..

Anyway, I will kind of repeat what has been said before - Mad angles can be done now. Short video example: http://www.motary.planet.ee/LFS/IBoughtAPFerrari.wmv

The problem is that to do this you have to use all 36 degrees - a TINY mistake and you lose the control(90 Degree angle drift actually often feels like out of control thing in LFS nowadays). Additional 14 degrees would make us more experienced drifters do manners like that more often - it really is fun.

And besides, bigger max lock would make my DFP live longer. :P Nowadays to do high angle/high speed agressive drifting I have to throw my DFP hard from one side to another.

Awesome, just awesome.

Adding a 45 degree steering lock would make LFS totally unrealistic, I truly mean it. And yes, current possibilites with suspension, brakes, gearbox etc settings are 100% realistic.

p.s.: Guys! Keep on rockin! Don't stop ignoring Toni's arguments! Way to go!


If you guys are so much into realism then let's ask Scawen to block all the setup settings in road cars.. Keep them stock. Really, most of the racers just get setups from others or team inferno site without even checking how it's been set under the hood. Why? Because they don't care if the setup is 100% realistic, or actually they wouldn't even be able to understand when it becomes unrealistic - I wouldn't too.

The only argument behind "No 45 degrees steering lock" is - Screw Drifters. Imo.

BlakjeKaas: Did you read Matrixi's post? How the hell would it be an advantage for other racers? How the hell would it make LFS not realistic? The change would affect only street cars and would be usefull ONLY for drifting(like in real life). When you race, you don't need much steering lock to catch a slide.. illepall You don't even see many racing sets using more than 30 degrees nowadays.

Tristan - So true, so true. :banghead: Based on my experience from today.. But even then, I still think 13th friday is nonsense, let's see what will happen next year.

Quote from tristancliffe :

That's the other shame about nKP - I bought Kamkor a licence, and now it's wasted on unplayable, unsupported crap with dodgy 90 degree basic physics flaws.

- Exactly, and I'm really sorry for that. I guess we all expected nKP to be the "Big Thing", what it is, we all know - thanks Kunos, ASS previews and all the hyping. I guess LFS and RBR are the only sims that did/do stand to the "hype" they made.

Sweet vid mate, who says drifters can't race?

if there is a spare one, please:

[email protected]

kamkor [at] gmail dot com

[email protected]

kamkor [at] gmail.com

kamkor [at] gmail dot com

Please, thanks

I have joined as well.

LOL, nice LX vid - that bug sure is funny. It's so funny my stomach hurts.

Anyway, good luck with the addon.

I spoke to a stupid brake I didn't need because I love myself. -

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Quote from Stuff :

(my birthday is July 24th Stuff++; )

Same Happy birthday!

Quote from fragile_dog :

Sadly, most of the super fast people see blue flags as get out of the way :/.

I guess that's because most of the fast people are there in front fighting for the box and each second lost behind a driver getting a blue flag lowers their chance of winning. It really is iritating for me when I(for example) catch up to the leader and am slowed down in a corner by someone who gets a blue flag - as if all the effort and increased tire wear went to waste.

Quote from Norbi :

Just FOX, FO8, BF1, FXR, XRR, FZR, UF1 in the first version, then the others later.

Sweet, thanks for the info! I hope the "real soon" comes "real soon". hehe

Quote from Jacek :

I'm sorry, I'd like to ask a moderator if he could move this topic to the unofficial addons section, because I think it more likely belongs there since this addon is going to be real soon.

Just noticed that you have added this. That better not be a lie.

p.s.: If it really is real, will it modify all cars sound or only the ones seen on the vid?

Honestly, those are real or fake?

Both ways, good work.

Quote from Jakg :

i'm geussing Adobe Premiere

Wrong. Adobe After Effects.

I think that what jtw says makes sense. And he has proven many times that he knows what he's talking about. If I had to trust someone about physics, that would be him. Enjoyable posts to read as always.

Quote from Jakg :

hmmm, lots of demo users in this thread who've driven it...

Here comes the License Police again! :tempted:

Great point Takumi.. And that thing is even more annoying in fwd cars.

Sorry for dragging the topic, but mattlikespeoples - don't you think that you are not able to load skins from skins_x folder in a game for some reason?

Other than that, nice layout.

Oryginal and really enjoyable to watch, loved it.

Doesn't work here either.

Toni, just call Logitech.. Say about the problem with gear flaps and then mention that your pedals are having a serious problem.. You will have to colorize a bit.. But that's how the deal is. 10-15 minutes of talking made Logitech send to me brand new DFP revB(took 1-2 weeks), all I had to do is - send usb and pedals cables back to them(After I have received a new wheel ofcourse).

Saiko D drift competitions layouts? iGP drift competitions layouts? D1GP demo layouts or all? I'm not sure which ones you mean.