It's not on your route, but if I'm ever in Switzerland, I've wanted to try this.

Quote from Scawen :

I think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that open configurations is some fantastic original idea that just occurred to me. I've been here all the time too, I know they have been talked about for years.

It has always been quite impossible due to the frame rate loss. But now that computers are more powerful, *and* because I had spent several days working on optimisations to improve the frame rate without drawlists, the thing that occurred to me is that finally, the long awaited open configurations could be made (although that was quite a few more days work).

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting that open configs is your original idea, merely that what-ever you were working on, open configs fitted in there with it with out too much work and maybe possibly the several suggestions along LFS' lifespan contributed you having the item on your list and gave you incentive to make that happen. What ever the reason was to make open configs possible, I'm happy we have more freedom to make our layouts and the cruisers can have their way with LFS etc.

32hours awake and bit inebriated and still can come up with somewhat polite and coherent sentences, should have made the effort in the last post, but .... :tired:

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Quote from morpha :

Eric requested the changes to the engine that allow the open configurations, I think it's safe to assume he's got something.

Huh?

Quote from Scawen :

Because the new view is not locked to the path of the track, LFS does not know which objects are visible, so the whole track must be drawn. I managed to find several optimisations that improved the frame rate in this situation, and that gave me a thought : if you can be in SHIFT+U mode and draw everything, then how about allowing "open configurations" where you can drive around anywhere in a track area, with the barriers removed?

Moreover that lightbulb moment, it has been suggested like from day 2 since a public version of LFS has been released.

My version of Aston 27 or AS Greenhorn as I have called it since 2006 (For Aston National X). Only took 5 years, before I could make it :geezer:

Started making as soon as I got Z30, so I didn't check has anybody else made it. So it's pretty much the same I guess, but mine has route guides and barries here and there to stop cutting (AS27 also has them at the most crucial parts).

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Quote from pik_d :

It wasn't possible with LFS's then-current engine. ... I hardly see how people repeating what Scawen said are dunces.

By your logic, anything in the 1st post change log is "not possible" and "can not be done"

Quote from pik_d :

I'm pretty sure if you tried hard enough you could find a post where Scawen said it wasn't possible a long time back. He even mentioned that he had to re-write some stuff for the new shift+u camera controls and that led to the open-track.

Quote from Scawen in RSC sometime in 2002-2006 I think :

Yes that is a problem, and the main reason why we don't have a free roaming mode in the tracks yet. It's not just what's visible but also the lighting including lightmap and shadows that go over the car.

It seems possible to sort this out, by somehow having more than one path available at a time, for example both Blackwood configs together would cover the whole area, or at South City, the Long and Classic configs together would cover it all. Then LFS would need to do some path switching when you went too far off one path, it could work out which one to use.

But as usual quite a lot of code reorganising is needed because it's only designed to have one path and lightmap at the moment, other than that i guess it's a bit like being in Autocross mode, that means ignoring wrong way driving and disabling disabling path lap counting and AI drivers. So it's something i'd like to do but it's not high enough priority yet.

"Something we don't have yet" and "seems possible" not quite the same as "not possible".

With computers and appliances you want something done you are pretty much only constrained to will power, abilities, time, money and what is scientifically possible. Someone says it can not be done, it very rarely actually means that.

Last edited by Krane, Mon 11 Apr 2011, 22:37.

Quote from Scawen :

... then how about allowing "open configurations" where you can drive around anywhere in a track area, with the barriers removed? I thought that would make the patch more interesting, and managed to get it done in a few days....

Quote from Not Sure :

Can not be done. Stop asking, start searching.

Quote from MAGGOT :

It was just stated a couple posts up that it is not possible with LFS's engine.illepall

Quote from sgt.flippy :

Okay, I said this before, for some reason this keeps sticking in my head, and here goes why it wouldn't work:

And all other nay-sayers, this is for you: :dunce:

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Will break the formatting but who cares.

Quote from hazaky :

Animal abuse, no?

Last edited by Krane, Fri 4 Mar 2011, 18:20.

I guess the cleaning lady hasn't seen The Ring(u)

Quote from bmwe30m3 :

In the second video, was the first thing Karjala piiraka?

Oh, and mämmi really tastes awful.

Indeed it was Karjalanpiirakka/Karelian pasties. And yes mämmi tastes as good as its appearance lets on. I'll eat it without a gun to my head but not without lots of sugar and cream.

Last edited by Krane, Fri 4 Mar 2011, 17:58.

American TV culture à la Borkbork
part 2

Quote from Nadeo4441 :

Well, I cant feel any FF, it just doesn't work. TDU1 actually had nice force feedback, it was driveable. Aside from that, the game is crap.

Point 1: same; "it will addressed ”soon„"

Point 2: same; not likely.

Should have "tried" it before buying, now I'm left with POS currently.

And a video to Finnish it all:
Lakupiippu

Finnish Drinking

Gordon Ramsay tastes Finnish foods

Last edited by Krane, Wed 23 Feb 2011, 21:19.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Anyone else think of Dustin when they see this pic?

Who what now? Who is that person? Does he have a thing with macs?

:duck:

Quote from nikopdr :

[I-M-G]http://www.metricmind.com/images/fiat_mult.jpg[/I-M-G]

If you think that's sexy, you should get your head checked.

Quote from Xaid0n :

Maybe some people are less willing (or embarrassed?) to reveal their habits?

Maybe so, then again public poll should be more free of funny-business. I don't have a problem to admit I've done stupid things, but elaborating on them... Lets say "Young and stupid etc" and a learners permit applies to my embarrassing poll options.

Last edited by Krane, Fri 4 Feb 2011, 20:48.

Á la VirtualR - Do Racing Games Negatively Affect Driving Habits?


Regarding "Number of prangs (i.e. Collisions/crashes) in the past 12 months", well too much copy&paste.... Explain in a post if any.

Last edited by Krane, Fri 4 Feb 2011, 19:45.