Quote from csimpok :

Lep, I don't mean to offend you, but considering that many people (involving those with less driven distance) are capable of driving faster than you it seems that you are not among the most talented drivers... there is nothing wrong with it, I don't know why you take it so seriously... And that you always try your best etc. has nothing to do with talent, talent determines how fast you will be able to go with a determined amount of practice.

I am not talented at painting for example, I won't "beat" Picasso even if I try my best And I don't feel bad if others say I can't paint.

Quote from Leprekaun :

when people tell me that I'm not talented, considering that I take my driving ability very seriously, just hurts quite a bit.

Thats why csimpok, thats why it upsets me because I care about racing a lot and I actually want to get into real life racing.

Reason why I'm taking this to a much more serious level because this form of thinking relates to real racing, does it not?. I apologise for my aggressive tone but when people tell me that I'm not talented, considering that I take my driving ability very seriously, just hurts quite a bit. When one person says it, it can be ignored but when a load of people say it, I mean, put yourself in my shoes. How would you feel if a load of people told you that you're not talented? I'm not just stating about a slither of talent but I compete to be the best, not second or third best, but to be #1. Thats how I race and you can see it through my racing. I admit, I sometimes have a crappy attitude, its a flaw in character that I'm trying to fix but you know, people can say that a driver's skill is based upon talent and thats fine, thats an opinion, I don't necessarily have to agree with it but its fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Reason why I got pissed is because there are those who have chosen to mention my name and compare it to others which wasn't on. I actually stated AGES ago in this thread that I admit that Bawbag and the likes are faster than I am and then all I said was that if I keep at it for a while, I could perhaps reach their level but then people beat me down by telling me that it'll NEVER happen.

I was being perfectly friendly in this thread, some people chose to get nasty and also, have missed VITAL points in my very long post near the end of Pg. 1 but then thats when the sh*t happened because people didn't read my post thoroughly as I thoroughly read theirs.

nothing personal!? are you f*cking serious!? :mad:. Whats all that "Lep is shit" "You're talentless". It wasn't said but so bloody clearly implied. Know what? you guys believe what you want to believe to make yourselves feel like a higher being but good luck to you the day you get beaten, that day will be a crushing day of confidence. Why build so much confidence that you have something "special" over others to know that you'll get beaten? All drivers know and those who don't believe it are idiots that there will always be someone who comes along to beat them (Schumacher -> Alonso & Raikonnen).

Maybe its a strategy to bring others down, if so, fair play, I'd say it would work on the weak minded. I know my stuff, I know my driving and I know I can be the best of my time, never actually be eternally the best because thats never happened and no chance in hell it'll happen in the future either but if you think I have fake beliefs, then you're entitled to your opinion as well as I'm entitled to mine but don't try and push your opinion over mine by trying to patronise me with saying "If it makes you feel better that you know those in front of you are better because they've played LFS more than I have" because one of the things that really gets on my nerves are those who patronise me.

Get the BSP sets (Base Setup Project) and try and get AS Cadet and AS Club sets, they're usually good bases for making sets .

Quote from Bawbag :

Because he had wr's he should be able to beat Lep?

The reason Modoff would beat Leprekaun is because he is capable of doing WR times, not because he has done so in the past.

I'm a shite driver, is that what you want me to admit? a lot of people here seem to think so. So there you have it, I actually stated that you're better than me but all you do is say how shite I am. Really appreciate this "Lep is shite" stuff guys, keep it up plz.

Having discussed with my brother about this whole subject about natural talent or not, he has told me about a few things which yes, can lead to making a driver better than another because of certain childhood experiences. Whilst I see that point clearly, this does not change my opinion on this so called "talented" drivers. The word talent for me is something to explain that someone is very good at what they do BASED upon the amount of practice, dedication, determination and experience.

I mean, for example, comparing myself and Ray. I know that Ray is better than me, I know that for a fact! but the difference in our opinions comes from why he is. If you compare our LFSW stats (which btw, doesn't include offline driving as well ), Ray has done over 180k km while I myself, only have 90k so throwing in some more mileage from offline driving, I'd say I've done about 100-120k altogether and Ray around 200-220k so my point is that he has done double the mileage I have done so, how can you compare me to Ray when he's played LFS double the amount of time that I have? perhaps if we make Ray go cold turkey for a few months whilst I go at it like mad for 3 months, I can achieve his mileage then it would be in a way, possible to compare altho there is another issue here and thats playing too much which would be an issue for me. As you know, back in 1990-1991 testing I believe, where Berger did all the testing for the team while Senna was enjoying the sun in Brazil but when Senna returned to testing, he went faster than Berger even tho Berger had been testing for months so it would be the same between myself and Ray if were to set it up like that.

If you can give me a logicial explanation to why talent is purely based on natural ability and whilst drivers like Fangio and Senna (read this quote carefully: "On a given day, a given circumstance. You think you have a limit. You then go for this limit and you touch this limit and you think 'Ok, this is the limit'. As soon as you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct and the expereience as well... you can fly very high" -- Ayrton Senna) and Fangio's quote about style improving over time.

Look at the end of the day, I want to mention 2 things, first of all, I don't appreciate others saying that I'm a shit driver because I know I'm very good (modesty mode: off) and secondly, so our opinions differ but I know that for a FACT that no driver just jumps in a game for their first time and can be amazingly fast.

Btw, Ray, didn't we used to exchange last place back in ERRC days?

yes, I live in Cairo, you are correct . I'm just stating that my home county in Ireland is Donegal .

Right ok, you lads go on believing what you believe. Senna himself stated that when he was very young whilst racing in karts, he was usually a back marker because everyone else was more "experienced" then he was but as time went on, he came to beat them so its quite obvious that there was "talent" involved there .

Quote from MrSkill :

You overestimate yourself Leprekaun.
It's not only about how much training you got, an important factor is talent.

I've raced you several times and you're about my pace, but bawbag or reppohc are driving on a much higher level, even with less training and a worse set they would still be faster than you.

I see. Well, let me lead you to a few quotes here.
"Style improves with time, nobody is born with it." -- Juan-Manuel Fangio

"Quite often on the track when I want to go faster, I don't drive any faster, I just concentrate harder - which makes me go faster. By concentrating on the braking, by concentrating on the way through the corner, by concentrating on the amount of throttle I can get on out of the corner. Just by concentrating that little bit harder all round." -- Jim Clark


"On a given day, a given circumstance. You think you have a limit. You then go for this limit and you touch this limit and you think 'Ok, this is the limit'. As soon as you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct and the expereience as well... you can fly very high" -- Ayrton Senna

Lemme also say, there is no such thing as just being fast (you're so called "talent"). FYI, I'm a very modest person when it comes to commenting on my driving and you can ask some of my friends around here and they'll tell you that. In terms of being confident, I know I'm capable of being as fast as Ray or even for a higher aim, being the fastest racer in the LFSW. Capability and actually being that are far apart, I know that I'm far away from being the best but I would consider myself an average player in the LFS community in terms of my driving ability. Jonesy, if you go on thinking that someone else is better, would you not lose the drive to try and beat them because you know that they're better than you due to some divine intervention? would you not go crazy?. I believe that ANY driver, and I mean ANY driver can be the best, we're all capable of doing it. The factor that divides those who are insanely fast and those who are extremely slow is down to the determination, experience and understanding of the driver. Its basically about the will to improve or to be the best. I know I want to be the best and that drive is increasingly getting stronger everytime I improve. Call it sad if you like but I know that for sure, Senna, Schumacher, Hakkinen, Alonso, Raikonnen (the list goes on and on) all wanted or want to be the best. As Senna said in this interview (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA): "We are competing to win and the main motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, its not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win as long as I feel its possible. I race designed to win". So there you have it, thats how Senna looks at it and thats how I look at it too. This doesn't mean that I'd do exactly what Senna used to do when he made contact with other drivers, no, I believe in racing with nobility and respect towards other drivers.

You lads have missed my point. Have a look at this part of my post:

"I never stated that setup is the sole reason for someone being faster over another, a lot of it is to do with track time as well as car time(how much you've driven that car) so to me, its no surprise that Ray is able to drive really quickly as he is the hotlap rank leader so I'd say he's driven the LX4 the fair bit."

Last edited by Leprekaun, Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:54.

Quote from Jonesy_ :

Yes, he got lot of experince hotlapping that magnificently hard combo one needs to complete the main rank with lx4. The damn oval, so how does it tell you he has lots of experience with it?

Don't think you got my point either Jonesy. Its about comparison, comparing my track time to his. If you look at his LFSW stats compared to mine, its obvious he's driven it a lot more than I have.




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Quote from thisnameistaken :

It's not because he's much better than you are?

It seems like you're doing a lot of whining about so-and-so beating you because he's got a better setup. Why not just learn how to set up the car and get on with it if you're so quick?

^ Thats harsh Kev, real harsh .

I don't think you were paying attention or got my point in my post. I stated that he IS better than me because of track and car time. Those who believe that some drivers are JUST better than others is a load of cr*p IMO.

Well, tbh, I'm not saying "Oh look at me! look at how brilliant I am!" but in general, I often can drive the car near its maximum potential but sometimes, there is a lot of time I can gain which just means that its a mental barrier, not a physics barrier . I understand that different setups are better for certain drivers over others, I know that but at the end of the day, its all about adapting yourself to the setup and the general characteristics of the car and then you getting the setup to make the car adapt more to your driving style. Personally, I feel that I've hit a wall now round the new AutoX course where I was only able to set a low 1:04.

I never stated that setup is the sole reason for someone being faster over another, a lot of it is to do with track time as well as car time(how much you've driven that car) so to me, its no surprise that Ray is able to drive really quickly as he is the hotlap rank leader so I'd say he's driven the LX4 the fair bit .

I'll post the setup here and you guys can have a go with it but please, for proof, post up a replay of you doing one of those magnificent low 1:03s or possibly high 1:02s with it. Just 1 little rule as well, no tweaking whatsoever, drive that setup as it is and show me a replay of you doing a lap with it. I mean, it doesn't hurt to share setups lads. I mean, sure for a league, its different because theres a lot at stake and I understand as well that this is a competition, not a fun run thing but something which I realise is that someone who's afraid to share his/her setup is someone who fears that another person can maximise it over them, putting them at a disadvantage. If someone is really confident and they believe they've extracted the maximum from the car then why should they worry about what others can do with that setup?

I'll give you an example, did you know that the setup that Darkone55 used to get his WR for BF1/AS National was actually my setup which was a tweak of biggi's as6 set. Yes, he did tweak it slightly but its basically the same setup. Whilst I was able to set a low 1:22, he was able to extract 0.6 more out of it with some small tweaks but I'm not worried about it because ok, I know he did it but it also gives me confidence of knowing that I can achieve those kind of times with it too and perhaps go even quicker. I find that sometimes the best way to find out how fast your setup is is to put it in the hands of one of the LFS aliens and see how well they do in comparison to the WR so the WR can be used as some sort of benchmark.

So in conclusion , Reppoh, if you can prove to me that its mostly to do with driving, then why aren't you willing to share your setup?

Last edited by Leprekaun, Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:15.

I vote for China!!! . Have some craic over in Macau . Tbh lads, karting would be good . I think to make it easier for the lot of us, we try and see where each of us lives then we pick the most central locations for all of us (probs mean we'll be coming down to Dublin Niki ). I personally live up in Donegal and as yous know, up north is rally country so no real fun for circuit racing. Mondello sounds good tho , I was planning on heading down soon actually so would be good craic if we all had a go there .

petercollins still "S2 licenced" oh lordy! . I thought that w*nker would've got banned AGES ago.

Well, just wondering here, would it be like a LAN party meet where we all meet up with our own PCs and race away which would be cool or just hang out for a day together . Just to let you lads know, I won't be up the "alcoholic" festivities due to religious forbidding (oh wait! I'm 17 anyway! ) but hey, doesn't mean I can't drink a nice cool glass of Coke . I hope you lads wouldn't mind but I think my brother would be interested in this too. Imagine the man who taught me everything about racing and then compare that to me . He already had a go at Mondello couple years back, for me, it'll be the first but lookin forward to it .

Last edited by Leprekaun, Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:53.

Thanks!

Hi all! I just wanted to ask, is there any bans text file I can access? I'd like to be able to keep track with whom I've banned or not. Thanks for the help!

Well, I'm currently in the development stage of creating a new team . I myself and also friends of mine are very serious with single seaters.

My plan for the team is that it doesn't strictly focus on LFS only but the team will expand into many other sims (rFactor, F1 Challenge, Grand Prix 4, Grand Prix Legends, etc. ) as well as being involved with rally sims such as Richard Burns Rally and Rally Trophy.

If you're interested, just let me know . You can contact me through PMs or either send me an email to: [email protected] or just add me to your MSN list and I'll be more than glad to offer any additional insight that you'd like to know about the team I'll be forming.

Just so that you know, the main concern for me with applicants is personality (being a nice guy basically ), driving ability is 2nd but I don't really stress on the ability of drivers because we were all new to LFS once.

Last edited by Leprekaun, Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:11.

Well, racing was clean and hard tonight which I like quite a bit . Had some ace racing with Keith and Niki, fair play lads . Got really fired up this round and looking forward to next one

<- Setup Whore!

I know that its more than just setup but there have been some times there where I had a new set and could instantly go 1-2 seconds faster. Definitely the last second or 1.5 seconds comes from the driver himself/herself but its nice to experiment with setups . Btw, I wanted to ask you, just to see where I was losing time, could you post a replay of you doing your magnificent 1:08s here .

Quote from ReppohC :

No-one going to vote for me? Hah I guess I wouldn't vote for me either...

I'm already down to the 1's on pb splits but I'm on the limit of my skill and/or set. Getting a 59 would really require something special IMO. Last week the times kept going down the whole week but I think that was because everyone was coming to terms with the car. I certainly hadn't driven the lx4 competitivly before last week so it took me a while to get a feel for it. But I think now that everyone is "dialed in" times should be more competitive straight off the bat. Probably end up eating my words by the end of the week though

Well, I'm very impressed with your time so far, very quick indeed. I would appreciate the setup tho .

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Is there going to be a race on Wednesday?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=27669

Don't think so Storm. I've discussed it with Duke and we came to the conclusion that it'll probably start off again next year. Its a shame but what can you do?

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Confused. So when Alonso went to McLaren why did Fisico not go with him?

He moved to a different team with a better car. Is that not what is happening? Hope so - it would be great to end up with a team mate that you hate - it'll be just like Piquet and Mansell all those years ago

Yeah, that would be really cool, Storm Vs. Lep . Nah, just messing Storm , you'd always beat me anyway . Well, I'm hoping my gold licence puts me in a team like BMW or perhaps Ferrari plz . Theres a good chance I may not be able to race in this tho as I have SAT exams during the start of the season. I'll see how things go and then decide .

Quote from Zewerr :

RBR is definately the most realistic (as far as physics) and the best looking (except maybe Dirt).

One game I thought really captured the sport of rally really well was Mobil 1 Rally Championship. Day stages! Night stages! Rain, Sun, Snow! And the best part, LOOOOOOOONG STAGES!!!!!!!! And more of them! Also, they had excellent pace notes, better than RBR, IMO. Unfortunately, it's old, and I don't know if it'll even play on new systems, and the handling physics are virtually non-exsistant.

I agree, I loved the long stages, 20 minutes, OH YEAH!!! . Well, something which would be really cool is if you could get a sim that has the physics of RBR and also have the classic rally cars from the 60's and Grp B cars and modern day rally cars with all the current rallies and have long stages. That said, it'll only happen when pigs can fly. Unfortunately, Richard (R.I.P.) is no longer with us so I don't see a RBR2 coming out anytime soon unless and this would be really nice, they would go on making the sim in memory of him. Perhaps a mod could be made too with some dedicated stage designers to make the long stages .

Quote from Smurfen :

its old skool, 5/10 needs colors and shade

Its called a personal logo

Quote from SpaceMarineITA :

I agree too, but shouldn't this topic stay into the "improvement suggestions" forum?

Yep! :doh: