Quote from Tazka :

Agreed with that but there's allso some more serious needs in the game that needs to be fixed.

Whiskey, i don't think abs much helps me control my car when reversing in a race. I don't reverse in that high speed that they would come in to play.

Flame me in pm about reverse gear and abs, so this thread wont get full of trash.

Actually, ABS could be very important going in reverse. Say you're in an fz5. You clip some grass on a straight, and you're suddenly going backwards. "when you spin, both feet in" Now, if there was abs when reversing, you're tires would have a less chance of having flat spots. It could help quite a lot.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Fri 19 Dec 2008, 04:01. Reason : fzr -> fz5

I dont get it. you have a ton of options that you dont choose... (edit: ok put in e-code thing.)

Probably get dell, for the options selected are superior to the HP's.

p.s. get the gtx 280, and now dual 9800gt's. Leaves you room to upgrade and takes out the hassle of SLI; if you can afford the extra cost. I wish dell would add more options like a GTX 260...
All in all you could make this computer for a lot cheaper, but i'd say go for Dell.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 00:34.

First off, you can get 100 fps in lfs for much less than $300. Now, this may be bottlenecked by your CPU at a certain fps, though.

305 watts cant handle a graphics card, so you oughta upgrade that first.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16817256032

Then a good graphics card:a bit more performance than you need, but your CPU isn't the best so this will take a lot of use; it will also future-proof your computer for a few years.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16814161244

But you can also go for the cheaper route:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16814130424

Last edited by MijnWraak, Mon 15 Dec 2008, 03:38.

Quote from --PoDo-- :

our teamchef did now finished the teamskin ...if you like it...we might do a public version...

Please do a public version; I'm in love with it!

Quote from DragonCommando :

Even on modern vehicles, ABS will increase brake distance when compared to threshhold braking.

From longest to shortest brake distance it goes:
-Locked wheels
-ABS
-Threshhold

I know this for a fact because I've driven a vehicle with modern ABS and I hated how it would increase the brake distance when it kicked in.

If the ABS in LFS gives you an advantage right now, it should be adjusted so that it doesn't. Considering the age of the cars it should pulse the brakes from On to almost completely off, and do it about 4-5 times a second. I actualy timed the pulses on an old car before, to see how fast it worked. I did this on an old mercury 4 door. This car also had an old version of traction control.

JasonJ, Skstibi, and I did a test today with the XRG on which distance is longer; abs threshold or locked wheels. Our tests concluded that ABS was shortest distance, threshhold was second, and locked were longest. (im sure JasonJ will make a thread or post about our findings later ) But in the Fz5, the data was far different. The locked wheels went a lot further, and the threshold was a tiny bit less than ABS. We could have tested more cars, but eh.

congrats!

oh, and its "HO HO HO!" not oh! oh! oh!

Yeah, I think the 8600gt can't handle the large res. I'd suggest a newer card. If you plan on playing newer games at those res, too, a gtx 260 would be good for ya. Or if you just play LFS in tri-monitor a 9800gt should suffice. I'm not good on ATI's GPU numbers so someone else can fill you in there

Quote from FlyeThemoon :

Scirocco GT
http://www.zcars.com.au/images/volkswagen-scirocco-gt241.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/ ... cirocco-gt24-interior.jpg

S2 has XFR. pretty comparable.

Quote from DragonCommando :

but this things almost ten years old

Gee, thats almost as old as this thread. Why necroing so many threads lately?

Most of the broken shifters are from users abusing the thing. I let my brother try and drive once, and he slammed the thing into the gears. Its not a real shifter, folks. There is a line beyond using which crosses into abuse. If you use it correctly, it will not break. The shifter has not broken on me in two years. Sure, it could have been made to suffer abuse, but it wasn't, and you must change your actions to reflect that.

What games are you going to play? What resolution do you play at? AA? AF? Which card you NEED depends on these.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Wed 10 Dec 2008, 03:11.

Quote from hansonator69 :

This is confusing. :S

I think its all british humor and LIES!! ALL LIES!!

Or it could be truth. Meh.

"G27 racing wheel set - PC - Embargo MAR/APR 09" Expected date from worker that posted at Nogrip.

Quote from Tezuka :

... Integrated nuts ...

I don't need more.

Quote from VoiD :

the scirocco isn´t confirmed...

Uhm... Yes, it is.

Or maybe it's because I'm American and don't sense your sarcasm. Maybe thats because it's text, too. meh.

Quote from AjRose :

Yea I know the monitors are soaking up a lot of the funds but well :P

I may just go with one monitor for now and buy another one in a little while Or I may just use a monitor I have laying around and buy the two at the same time. I might be able to get a better deal on the monitors closer to christmas anyway

Aj

hey, just go with whatever you think is the best way to go.

If you have any questions, just ask.

Quote from AjRose :

Thanks Wraak, everything in your build looks great for what I'm looking for Building a PC is no problem I've just been out of the loop for a bit before LFS that last time I was semi serious into computers it was 2002 and that barebones kit looked decent for the price.

I think I'm going to hold off placing the order for a week or so and see If I can find some better deals or save up a bit more to spend on some better components.

Aj

cheap barebones that list two different graphics cards usually come with a terrible motherboard and crap components. I'd definately wait to save up a bit more. The monitors take a big toll on the budget. If you can maybe have 700-750 dedicated on the pc and then 300-350 for monitors, it would definately get you higher-performance hardware. Of course, one 22" monitor usually suffices, but it's up to personal preference.

How's this?


p.s. mail-in-rebates are almost impossible to complete when the products are ordered over internet, because there usually is not an original reciept in the first place, and never more than one to get rebates from each component.

p.p.s. its also upgradable - the motherboard supports quad cores (phenoms) if you think you need the power in the future.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Tue 25 Nov 2008, 22:57.

Can you build a computer without the barebone? It will be a lot better if you could; ATM i'm creating a budget amd system for ya on newegg see how much I can shave off that price that you got.

Also, you might want to invest in a good graphics card to play on two monitors with games like those. I put a 9800gt in your build, and should be sufficient. will be a bit more money though

Last edited by MijnWraak, Tue 25 Nov 2008, 21:27.

Quote from varyag :

Hi there ! Got a problem with fps. It's about 40-45 when i'm alone on the track, but when i approach another car i drops to 3 depends on how much cars are near. System is : Intel 2.4 Ghz . Nvidia GeForce Fx5200 128mb and 1 gb RAM. Also no difference what graphic setup is. It behaves same either when it's 800*600 or 1280*1024. Already tried to reinstall graphic drivers and some other things. Any suggestions people ?

P.S. Sorry for my english

You probably need a new graphics card (and RAM, too), as you probably suspected since you posted in this sub-forum. What model motherboard do you have? how many watts does your psu make? Also, do you play any other games avidly besides LFS? cant make a recommendation without knowing these.
p.s. your english is fine

The irony is that the major things that is 'broken' in LFS, is that cars aren't broken correctly.

Isn't there a bit too little grip, though?

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Anyone played it? It's very, very addictive (which is why I'm up writing this post instead of sleeping). Basic premise is that it's a film in which the apocalypse has arrived, humanity's infected, there's a small group of survivors who have to escape, each campaign (there's about four in total) is centered around a theme, one being about escaping from an airport, one from an apartment complex and so on

It is great, the action only ever lets up to let you heal (and you're going to need it...) There is ONE flaw however. It does get frustrating, for instance at the end of a few sections, you'll come up against a Tank, which is basically walking mass of muscle that can kill you with...about two hits.

shoot muscle guy in stomach?

Quote from KWAK7 :

Well that wasn't very helpful. Anyone else have any ideas? Cheers.

Yes, someone here told me about a program called QuickSoundSwitch. It does exactly what you are asking about, but it is a bit buggy with my sound card. You can try it youself, though. http://www.quicksoundswitch.toflo.de/

edit: you can fix this problem without software - just buy a cheapo sound card and you will be able to choose which one goes to which, afaik. At least with my USB headset it's that way. Maybe not with 3.5 jack headsets? Not sure, though.

edit2: its probably the usb headset, not the sound card.

:feedtroll:

Put it in a safe spot and don't lose it, because one day you'll be kicking yourself in the face if you need it for some reason but threw it out / sold it.

Try banning hibby, hibby2, etc. that May help