Quote from col :

If you're starting at the back of a large grid in south city and you are faster than half of the cars in front, then pitting at the end of lap one is a very useful option.


cheers

Col

Then dont start at the back of the grid

If you're really faster then the people in front of you, you can also overtake them.

Yup, thanks for the servers Dan and making the league a possibility

Pit stops are a great addition to racing because getting into the pit lane and pit box quickly is a skill as well, you can easily win seconds over a competitor who is bad at pitstops.
The only thing I'd like to see added on the ctra servers is a pit window so there won't be any pit stops in lap 1, which kinda kills the race.

Dude, it wasnt your fault. I was overcompensating to you messing up a corner and I ended up spinning because of my own stupidity. I was kinda tired anyway when the race started, so i just blame it on fatigue.
Anyhow, I still had enough fun fighting back from 8th to 3rd, and I worked hard for it

it's only a shame that i messed up lap 1. i was pretty tired and didnt really know how to drive away from pole position with pickard on my ass, so i ended up overdefending. Guess I have to work on that

(me is not really used to driving away from pole )

Last edited by mikey_G, Fri, 1 Jun 2007 02:15.

I'm kinda disappointed with being 4th in the drivers championship. Too bad I had the lag out in round 4, and that I only felt more at home in a uf1000 after round 3, because otherwise I would have done a lot better. But bad shit happens always.

Anyhow, congrats to paul and tongey for winning the season

hehe, that caught my eye as well

Busy race for me.
I had pole position but i messed it up in lap 1. Pickard, paul overtook me. After a couple of laps paul messed up after the first split, I tried to avoid him but kept my foot (stupid) on the brake causing a unstoppable slide. after that i had to fight back from 8th i think and i had some serious hard fights with some people, especially tomhah and chris.

Anyhow, I had some good racing, no contact besides a small bump with chris, so im happy with the result (had to do some serious fighting for it)

Last edited by mikey_G, Thu, 31 May 2007 20:57.

Just got the world record for this combo


with my race setup even!

Hmm, thats what you get when you host lfs on a windows machine, random reboots.
Ill pm some people who can change it, as most of the admins aren't home yet from work (including me).

pwd for tonight is uf1so5

A very evil post count you got there justin

Good luck tomorrow in division 2 moo racing. May the best man/team win the championship

Heh, no prob kev. But yeah, it's fun to plan a league but I got disappointed quickly, especially in certain people.
Anyhow, I'm happy tomorrow is the last round ever

Quote from thisnameistaken :

That shot doesn't look representative. He's braking, the left rear has let go and so it looks like he's oversteering. Is that really his trajectory or just the way the car is pointing?

It was his trajectory too, and that is the root of the problem. In my eyes tongey did have 50% overlap, and ant put his car on a crash course through t1.
Now why should tongey get a penalty for this move? He had 50% overlap and was steering to the turn 1 apex. Should he have steered along with ant into a wall? I don't think so.

Should Ant get a penalty? The car who wanted to overtake him was all along him on the straight, and at turn-in the overlap was 50%. Does that give ant the right to create an imaginary apex and force tongey towards it?
No, I don't think so.

Should ant get a penalty for this which doesn't even cost him any points? Yes. Tongey had as many rights as ant had to go through the corner, yet he drives an impossible line for tongey to comply to, and that's the reason why he got a 10 second penalty.


So that leaves Ant with 1 penalty in each session of the last round. A real achievement. I hope this doesnt happen in the finale round.

Last edited by mikey_G, Wed, 30 May 2007 19:50.

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Should've tongey yielded to a line into the barrier?

Quote from anttt69 :

Sorry Mr Mikey but you are blatently wrong & your points above further prove the point I was trying to make above.

You say that Tongey should have at least, (or more than) a 50% overlap at turn in & he did not.(when i turned in)
You also say "it's the job of the car overtaking to not cause an incident". You can plainly see as I come across to cover my line which I am entitled to do & tongey did not yeild. It was his responsibility not to cause an incident & although he cannot see into the future he did not err on the side of caution. The incident was avoidable however we were both at fault.

Tongey did have 50% overlap at turn-in point.

You can say tongey should have given you room, but how much? You pointed the car to a place where there was no road. Seriously, what did you expect of that?
That tongey yielded the line to your imaginary point somewhere in a barrier, or the racing line of turn 1??

I've reviewed the case now and these are my findings.

At brake point he has 40% overlap.

At turn in point he has 50% overlap

You turn towards an apex 3 meters to the inside of the normal apex, deliberately cutting him. You knew he was next to you, but according to you not enough, so you deliberately cause an accident because you dont feel like yielding your path to an imaginary apex.

In a rules book I know it specifies that if you have at least 50% overlap at the brake point and turn in point the corner is yours. In this case that was only at the turn in point. In this case it's the job of the car overtaking to not cause a incident.

In this case you actually caused the accident. If you think you have the corner rights, it doesnt give you the right to cut someone off, and thats why you got the penalty (which didnt cause you to lose any points).


Because you didn't lose any points or position by that penalty, I will not look further into it and the penalty will stay.


I have however reviewed an incident in the 2nd race which involved you parking on the track and caused reintjan to crash into you, and several drivers had to take evasive actions because you felt if was ok to park the car on the racing line.
Parking is strictly forbidden, and parking on the racing line will be punished.
For this action you'll receive a 10 second penalty.


This penalty will cause "S14 Drift" to be bumped up to 5th position and "dynofiend to 6th. You will end up in 7th position seeing as they both were within 10 seconds.

Last edited by mikey_G, Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44.

Crap, that lag out last week didnt do me any good

I usually watch nascar which is sometimes nice, but my favourite racing series is v8 supercars. V8supercars always provides good commentary, good action, good drivers and no wrecking like in btcc (in short, everything you want).
I also kinda keep a repository of v8 supercar onboard clips, so feel free to browse through it

Firstly, you knew that jumping that silly little curb helped your time and you could easily see that other people weren't doing it. Besides, on your fastest lap in quali you cut twice, so what happened at the other silly curb? You knew what cutting is and that it's not allowed because I'm pretty sure you noticed the barriers in round 2.

Secondly, parking your car there was dangerous and you could've made it less dangerous if you parked on the right side of the line. It is just plain stupid to park a car in a right-hand off-camber corner on the left of the line while inertia is pulling the car to the left. Pretty silly and dangerous to me....
I;m not saying that parking is ok, but you could have made it less worse.

Thirdly, your sportsmanship in your outlap was appalling towards s14 drift. You blocked him and even made contact while he was on a fast lap. Sure, there are no rules about it, but at least treat drivers the way you wanna be treated.

But thank you, for making the reviewing so easy and "nice". And to be honest, I do think you came off easy with your whole conduct in round 4. We even forgot your second parking "incident" on the line in race 2 which caused reintjan to run in to you but I seriously cant be bothered with it now.

I hope in round 5 none of the above wont happen again.

Last edited by mikey_G, Mon, 28 May 2007 23:05.

Pit Stop procedure for SO5

Before pit entry.
If you're bumper to bumper with another car and want to pit, use the indicator or make your intentions known (stay in the middle of the road, not the driving line) to the car behind you.

Pit entry
You are allowed to cross the yellow line on the entry, but please no divebombing into pit lane when you're bumper to bumper with other cars.
You are NOT allowed to overtake anyone in the pitlane (pitlane is everything between 2 yellow lines), unless the car in front of you is severly damaged and can't drive at normal speed, otherwise the pit area becomes too dangerous.

Pit stop
When you've made your pit stop, make sure that when you're leaving the pit box the road behind you is clear. Any contact in the pitlane will be punished with a 10 second penalty.

Pit exit
Remember that when you cross the speed limited part of the pit lane, you're still not allowed to overtake. You are also NOT allowed to cross the yellow line on the pit exit. Doing so will give you a 10 second penalty.
People who exit the pits and rejoin into T1 have the corner rights, but they do have to remember to leave enough space at the corner exit if they rejoined side-to-side with another car.



These rules have been created to make pitting fair for everyone, and to keep it a relatively safe procedure.
If you think I forgot something, please leave a reply.

apparently?

I dont think anyone will mind canceling round 3 this tuesday, because it saves everyone a lot of time which can be spend practicing for the season finale. Besides, everyone in this league signed on for a thursday and not a tuesday.

I also don't think we need to ask everyone before the race how to do the point system. We'll implement the system dru descibed, and everyone in div1 can have a coke and a smile.

Well, was to be expected to be perfectly honest...

I thought F1 only had 2 compounds, a control tire and a softer tire

The thing dadge talks about is a process called thinking in case you're wondering.