I wouldn't really recommend disabling throttle blip as it causes engine braking. If you think you need more braking, then you should turn up the braking force.
dutch:
"Engine cut" is een kleine pauze in gaspedaal percentage wanneer je schakelt omdat er anders een te groot verschil onstaat van de engine rpm's en transmissie rpm.
English:
Throttle cut is a small pause in throttle preventing a big gap between in engine's rpm and the input shaft rpm.
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I usually lift of the throttle pedal to get some more turn in on the first part of the corner, but it depends on the setup offcourse (and i like some more oversteer on the corner entry).
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To me the uf1 is focussing 100% on driving technique. I always make sure I use 100% of my tires' ability to brake, turn, accelerate or any mix of those. Because it's such a slow car, every small mistake you make or every percent you don't use of the tires' ability will cost you a lot.
I haven't seen you drive, but i'll give you some tips.
If you run onto the grass on the corner exit, this means you've started your corner arc too early, so choose a later turn in point. Don't forget if you take a later turn in point, the beginning of your corner arc can be smaller then the rest of the arc (in simple words, go slower in the first half of the corner, but you'll be faster outof the second part). If you do this you can easily be on 75% throttle at the time you reach the apex. Don't forget you want to accelerate out of corners, so you can't use 100% of available grip to corner. Just use 90% to corner, and 10% for acceleration (play with these values as you like).
You could use this advice for every corner, but you have to decide on which corners exit speed is more important (a corner leading to a long straight for example). A corner where there's a corner immediatly behind it doesnt require a high priority on exit speed but more on entering speed and scrubbing speed off until you reach the apex ( in other words, here you can use 100% of your tires to corner)
Anyhow, I know this is a little bit dense material, but it kinda does specify driving on the limit for every part of the corner.
If you'd like to read about a tires' ability to corner, google for tire friction circle to see the theory behind this.
I haven't seen you drive, but i'll give you some tips.
If you run onto the grass on the corner exit, this means you've started your corner arc too early, so choose a later turn in point. Don't forget if you take a later turn in point, the beginning of your corner arc can be smaller then the rest of the arc (in simple words, go slower in the first half of the corner, but you'll be faster outof the second part). If you do this you can easily be on 75% throttle at the time you reach the apex. Don't forget you want to accelerate out of corners, so you can't use 100% of available grip to corner. Just use 90% to corner, and 10% for acceleration (play with these values as you like).
You could use this advice for every corner, but you have to decide on which corners exit speed is more important (a corner leading to a long straight for example). A corner where there's a corner immediatly behind it doesnt require a high priority on exit speed but more on entering speed and scrubbing speed off until you reach the apex ( in other words, here you can use 100% of your tires to corner)
Anyhow, I know this is a little bit dense material, but it kinda does specify driving on the limit for every part of the corner.
If you'd like to read about a tires' ability to corner, google for tire friction circle to see the theory behind this.
Indeed, what thor says, at least, that's what it says in my racing books. 
Well, the first noticeable thing is your driving input. Sometimes you fully brake or throttle up while already using 100% of your tires' ability to corner, so if you want to accelerate/decelerate while cornering you should drive slower in the corner. If you want to see the theory of this, google for tire friction circle
Second thing, don't move the wheel when you're on a straight. Straights are there to get as quickly as possible to the other corner, and not to slalom.
Thirdly, and this is a common mistake, you frequently early apex at the 90 degree corner after the straight so you actually have to slow down in the second part of the corner (while you actually should be accelerating). So try to turn in later 1 meter at a time until you think you can finally nail the corner. You also did not take the biggest arc through a corner a lot of time, which limits the speed in which you can take a corner
Last thing is consistency. Try to use reference points around the track (brake point, turn in, apex, turn out). These would help you a lot since your laptimes were not that stable.
I hope the criticism will help, because you can easily do a 34/35 if you didnt make those mistakes.
Second thing, don't move the wheel when you're on a straight. Straights are there to get as quickly as possible to the other corner, and not to slalom.
Thirdly, and this is a common mistake, you frequently early apex at the 90 degree corner after the straight so you actually have to slow down in the second part of the corner (while you actually should be accelerating). So try to turn in later 1 meter at a time until you think you can finally nail the corner. You also did not take the biggest arc through a corner a lot of time, which limits the speed in which you can take a corner
Last thing is consistency. Try to use reference points around the track (brake point, turn in, apex, turn out). These would help you a lot since your laptimes were not that stable.
I hope the criticism will help, because you can easily do a 34/35 if you didnt make those mistakes.
Please make legit complaints. You need to include the lapnumber and your point of view about the person who you think should receive a penalty for their actions.
Saying there was a darkish car involved isn't really convincing me that you did your homework on this matter, so i'm not really taking this complaint seriously.
If you do want a marshal to look at it, please provide more info.
Saying there was a darkish car involved isn't really convincing me that you did your homework on this matter, so i'm not really taking this complaint seriously.
If you do want a marshal to look at it, please provide more info.
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well, ill drive with my shifter so ill be slower anyway danny, but i just had enough of the 1 hour whining tonight on div1.
And dru, I know you're disappointed by my decision.
And dru, I know you're disappointed by my decision.
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Reason : All that was needed to be said :)
I sa the second race of div2, and although it wasn't really clean, it looked like there was more fun there then in any div1 race. Hopefully I can join div2 for round 4 
It's standard there on my mac, so if you'd like a pdf, just host the doc and ill convert it.
That's exactly why I prefer v8 supercars over that overvalued lfs demo league
I havent used ubuntu in a long time, but im sure you can find some info on ubuntuforums.org if you search for fstab.
You can also fix it temporarily in some sys conf screen, but you'd have to do that with every reboot, so my advice would be learn the syntax of fstab, or ask someone for his fstab file.
You can also fix it temporarily in some sys conf screen, but you'd have to do that with every reboot, so my advice would be learn the syntax of fstab, or ask someone for his fstab file.
Adding extra tc code to the bf1 is useless imo, as it gets banned next season anyhow. Btw good suggestion about the magical spring, looks like you've done your homework before posting
I dont want drifters sending me 20 packets a second per person so I can see their flashing lights.
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edit: btw, I made an app like that before (for cops), and had to keep the lights on for 1 second before switching to other lights, otherwise other people don't see it.
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edit: btw, I made an app like that before (for cops), and had to keep the lights on for 1 second before switching to other lights, otherwise other people don't see it.
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Sorry for the slowness, but I was pretty busy this whole weekend. The servers should be ok now.
The end of the quali was fun. was following the sector times on my laptop, and it's funny to see that the sector times differed so much between ferrari and mclaren, so that will be fun for tomorrow.
I have to say one thing though.. That chicane is gay
I have to say one thing though.. That chicane is gay
Nice page dude
edit: btw, you're missing the css file in the stats directory
I think I said that I didn't base my entire opinion about who or whatever on the whole wind issue. It's based on other things which don't have anything to do with this league. At the moment I cant be arsed to quote myself on that, so you can look for it yourself.
I did not know that kaw treated the lag start as a joke, haven't seen the replay yet as I haven't had any time. So maybe a 5 minutes practice session isn't a bad idea, but only after a short 2-3 minute break so people can still take a leak or rest their feet. And yes, some people need to rest their feet. Some people might have stiffer springs in their pedals, use squashballs or use a load cell which requires 30 kgs for 100% braking. Good for you that you use the clutch pedal as a brake, but I rather think about the people who use one of the above so it's still fun for their feet.
Well paul, i hope im still entitled to my own opinion, even when you disagree with most of it.
Loading up a new instance of lfs isn't forbidden, but I did not know people actually did that. I feel it gives an advantage so I can't see why your complaining about it. I asked dru to make the round 2 break shorter and the lag start longer which to my opinion should be good enough. I'm sure next round there will be soemthing else to prevent the carnage (2 lag starts, or maybe a 5 min practice session).
And btw, I did know you were asking in round 1 for a practice session before the 2nd race, but i was taking a piss, so im sorry i didnt reply.
Concerning your reverse grid suggestion of doing only the top 10. Yea, it sounds ok, we did that too in the uxrl. Only i cant see the point as we had only 13 drivers. Dru already had such a system in mind for when patch x comes to not increase the carnage.
And about my hypocritical comments...
Yes i know i said good drivers should do this and that. And yes I know that I didnt follow those tips, but ive never said that im a good racing driver. I just said those things so that the hotlappers among us decide if it's actually worth something to pass the person in front of you.
In race 2 i thought it was. For some laps in a row I saw viper going wide in to t1, so when i was closer to him i decided to give it a try. Unfortunately he didnt go wide this time but extremely tight. I agree it was a stupid move by me. But if you see someone making the same mistake 5 times in a row you just have to try. Luckily we didnt crash out, and I gave him my position a while later. I've still not seen the replay of it, but I dont need to as I already know its my fault.
About the whole wind thing, I dont give a crap about it. I've had enough complaints about it and decided to just let it go, along with other weather options. In my opinion it would have made the racing closer and more fun, but at that moment i rather picked the choice which was more fun for me personally (not having complaints about your ideas for a day is a nice thing). If you think my opinion about mercury or you is solely based on that, sure go ahead and think that, but thats far from true
Loading up a new instance of lfs isn't forbidden, but I did not know people actually did that. I feel it gives an advantage so I can't see why your complaining about it. I asked dru to make the round 2 break shorter and the lag start longer which to my opinion should be good enough. I'm sure next round there will be soemthing else to prevent the carnage (2 lag starts, or maybe a 5 min practice session).
And btw, I did know you were asking in round 1 for a practice session before the 2nd race, but i was taking a piss, so im sorry i didnt reply.
Concerning your reverse grid suggestion of doing only the top 10. Yea, it sounds ok, we did that too in the uxrl. Only i cant see the point as we had only 13 drivers. Dru already had such a system in mind for when patch x comes to not increase the carnage.
And about my hypocritical comments...
Yes i know i said good drivers should do this and that. And yes I know that I didnt follow those tips, but ive never said that im a good racing driver. I just said those things so that the hotlappers among us decide if it's actually worth something to pass the person in front of you.
In race 2 i thought it was. For some laps in a row I saw viper going wide in to t1, so when i was closer to him i decided to give it a try. Unfortunately he didnt go wide this time but extremely tight. I agree it was a stupid move by me. But if you see someone making the same mistake 5 times in a row you just have to try. Luckily we didnt crash out, and I gave him my position a while later. I've still not seen the replay of it, but I dont need to as I already know its my fault.
About the whole wind thing, I dont give a crap about it. I've had enough complaints about it and decided to just let it go, along with other weather options. In my opinion it would have made the racing closer and more fun, but at that moment i rather picked the choice which was more fun for me personally (not having complaints about your ideas for a day is a nice thing). If you think my opinion about mercury or you is solely based on that, sure go ahead and think that, but thats far from true
OK, lets do a run down
I think 3 laps are enough to get the rhythm back, and apperantly mercury drivers also load up another instance of lfs and train there. Seeing as that gives an advantage over other people its a weird argument.
It's like Ferrari asking the fia to ban private tracks for teams.
All fast drivers hate reverse grids, in real life or in lfs so there's no need to ask for driver opinions as we can guess them already.
Imo a good racing driver can adopt to any situation well, and doesn't take unnecessary high risks. We even lowered the points for the reverse grid race so the risk/benefit ratio changes.
So I'd suggest that the fast drivers actually think about "Do i really need the extra points if I overtake that guy compared to the people close to me in the point standings?"
I know that drivers did ask that in the v8 supercars last year to minimize risk in reverse grid races, so maybe it's time drivers here did that too.
To all that mishmash I can say; a good racing driver can pass anyone. Reverse grid races were thought of because it makes things more exciting because otherwise there would be no action at all in the second race. There was already no action in the top 5 in the first race, everyone just increased their gaps just like in the first round.
As a final thing I wanna say that the fun factor was definitely gone in this round and im hugely disappointed by that. I hope it will be back in the next round cause I'd rather join division 2 right now.
I think 3 laps are enough to get the rhythm back, and apperantly mercury drivers also load up another instance of lfs and train there. Seeing as that gives an advantage over other people its a weird argument.
It's like Ferrari asking the fia to ban private tracks for teams.
All fast drivers hate reverse grids, in real life or in lfs so there's no need to ask for driver opinions as we can guess them already.
Imo a good racing driver can adopt to any situation well, and doesn't take unnecessary high risks. We even lowered the points for the reverse grid race so the risk/benefit ratio changes.
So I'd suggest that the fast drivers actually think about "Do i really need the extra points if I overtake that guy compared to the people close to me in the point standings?"
I know that drivers did ask that in the v8 supercars last year to minimize risk in reverse grid races, so maybe it's time drivers here did that too.
To all that mishmash I can say; a good racing driver can pass anyone. Reverse grid races were thought of because it makes things more exciting because otherwise there would be no action at all in the second race. There was already no action in the top 5 in the first race, everyone just increased their gaps just like in the first round.
As a final thing I wanna say that the fun factor was definitely gone in this round and im hugely disappointed by that. I hope it will be back in the next round cause I'd rather join division 2 right now.
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Well, it's also a shame that you pick a practice session (when everyone cares more about making a set, then driving clean) to make the final judgment about people.
That was totally my fault. You went slower out of teh chicane then me, so I lifted. When that wasn't enough I braked, but also had to check what moose behind me was doing to not create a huge collision.
Anyhow, my fault, im sorry, and accept any penalty for this incident.
First race was ok besides an incident with Chris which caused hay to be shot in my face, but i could proceed. Did some fighting with Paul, but we lost too much time on mcintire so after 5 laps I decided to back off. After a couple of laps paul got to mcintire, overtook him, and mcintire made a mistake after that so that was 1 more position for me. I tried to get to paul again, but failed in the end, then decided to just cruise the last few laps.
Race 2 was bah, yuck eewl. I apologize to moose and dynofiend for the too aggressive racing i did while overtaking and defending, so im sorry for that.
Race 2 was bah, yuck eewl. I apologize to moose and dynofiend for the too aggressive racing i did while overtaking and defending, so im sorry for that.
Last round I decided not to do that, but instead making the lag start of the second race last 2 or 3 laps. I remember that you asked me to put the server on so2, but I considered it unfair to people who want a pee break, or rest their feet.
Seeing as you fire up another instance of lfs and get back into groove for the other track anyhow if we have a long break, I will ask dru (race admin for tonight) to make a short break, and a longer lag start to make it fair for all, and not some.
Seeing as you fire up another instance of lfs and get back into groove for the other track anyhow if we have a long break, I will ask dru (race admin for tonight) to make a short break, and a longer lag start to make it fair for all, and not some.
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