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Seriously though, zero maintenance
Mountaindewzilla
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What if Victor put a little box on the forum index page that said "Status of LFS development: in progress".
Then we'd always know the status of LFS.
G27 -- Three years later
Mountaindewzilla
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For the impatient: G27s do not last a drifter for three years.

It's quiet at first, but gets loud because of some gear tensioner mechanism that was poorly engineered. There is no simple fix.
The accelerator pedal starts malfunctioning too quickly. It can be cleaned or replaced (voiding your warranty).
The shifter starts to malfunction after a couple of years. I think it can be fixed, but haven't yet looked into it. My warranty has already expired.

Take a look at my LFSWorld stats, and you'll see that I really haven't used my wheel that much. I've played other sims, and spent time offline, but I can't imagine that adding up to more than 40-50 hours.

What's the condition of your G27, and how long have you owned it?
It doesn't have to be a niche, it just is.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Gutholz : Isnt it strange that during "the end area of LFS" people play more than you did during the "high point"?


Strange indeed.

As far as the community stuff goes, I just want to be able to show up now and then to do my thing. Unfortunately, public servers are often empty or full of newbs with bad attitudes.

It'd be nice if that Airio (or whatever it's called) safety rating was global.
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Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Macfox :
IMO there's more to it.

It certainly seems that way, doesn't it?
You've made some interesting and valid points.

I wanted to buy into blind optimism, but I have to read the writing on the wall and stop expecting anything.

Also, http://hitboxteam.com/dustforce-sales-figures
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Macfox :Current development doesn't lend any credibility to a major release shiny or not. The reality is the game now looks dated and does it a great disservice. It would take a massive undertaking to get the game to current levels needed to resurrect the game. That's a big "maybe". Seeing the easter bunny probably has better odds.

I don't think that extrapolating from recent years is fair to Scawen and Eric. If you look at LFS's history, it becomes clear that Scawen is very capable, and can produce excellent stuff in a reasonable amount of time.
Eric's work is subject to the limitations of LFS. Would you want to publish your shiny new assets in an old looking game to make a bunch if ingrates happy for a couple of days?
I certainly wouldn't.

Scawen and Eric are professionals that can produce professional results. Whenever Scawen focuses on something achievable, he produces really good results.
As long as Scawen is working on stuff that enables Eric to produce and publish quality assets, LFS's "resurrection" is a matter of time.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Macfox : What you see now was only a tiny fraction of what it was. A flogged tired horse.

All it will take is a major release to turn it around.
If it's shiny, fun and new, people will build a community around it.
The assumption that people around here seem to make is that LFS won't be shiny or new enough to get anyone's attention. To that I say: maybe.
Mountaindewzilla
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I seem to remember reading a post from Scawen saying that he was mad about hackers because he was working on tools for Eric.

Based on what I've seen in the past, writing a something small could lead to cool additions. Look at the autocross editor for instance. An infamous example is the new physics.

I figure that if the devs manage their money well, they should still be quite comfortable.

It'd be cool if someone did a real-deal documentary about LFS when it's development is wrapping up.
Off topic
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from CodieMorgan :LFS is a racing sim considered to be a Simulation

FORZA and Gran Tourismo are considered "Realistic" and not "Simulations". They are NOT racing Simulations - they are just Realistic Racing Games that are designed to appeal to the general gaming world, and not towards those that want absolute realism..

Forza and Gran Turismo are simulation games.
I imagine that your intention was to defend them, but your post is very condescending.

Realism in simulations is a matter of degrees. Absolute realism is a figment.
Car behavior is not the only measure of realism in racing sims.

For all practical purposes, racing is a game.

I propose that we embrace terms like "immersion oriented sim", "physics oriented sim", and "
procedure oriented sim".

Quote from edge3147 :LOL @ GT and Forza being racing sims. I've seen better physics in a toilet bowl than those 2 games combined.

You ever seen a crash from either of these games? Pathetic

Obvious troll is obvious.

Let's encourage people to get excited about cars and racing instead of invalidating them for liking the "wrong" sims.
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It's slapstick.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from AnakinSkywalker :It was very funny joke.
May the Force be with you. :jedi:

I'm not sure I understand what your deal is. I enjoy trolling sometimes, and seeing people turn into internet tough guys. I just don't understand how that could supersede establishing beneficial relationships with respectable people.
Scawen seems like a pretty cool guy. He's smart, sensitive, and passionate. Why would you want to be the object of his frustration when you could be his friend?

I hope you find whatever it is that you're looking for.

Scawen et al: I don't know, but I've been told that a person can compromise any software on a system and mess with anything else on that system.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Tomba(FIN) :
Don't buy.. Seriously, listen to me. Other guys here are fanbois.

Said the guy with 29492 miles under his belt. At 60mph that's like 490 hours.

$40 is a great deal.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Scawen :I would be able to get back to the tyre physics and some editor tools Eric has asked me for.

And they say you're not open and honest enough

Thank you for posting so much lately. I really enjoy developer commentary.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Scawen :...decades to come.

Ha ha ha!
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from ACCAkut :this patch introduces numerous tweaks that only make sense if people play LFS online.

Fixed that for ya.
Mountaindewzilla
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:tempted:

This is a bit off topic.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Omar1 :hehehe... just me? :/

I don't know what you mean.
I wasn't directing my post at anyone in particular.

I looked around again and can't find the video I was talking about.
There are a ton of videos out there though.
Mountaindewzilla
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I couldn't find it, but Nomuken did a drift tutorial series that I think is really good. He's done a few video tutorials, each one better than the last. The most recent one I've seen does a good job of presenting the exercises without too much fluff. It also gives the viewer a good idea of how long it takes beginners to master the basics.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from col :I have a question for you:

What if you have many hundreds of pounds/dollars worth of games on steam, and then due to an error on their part, steam decides you have broken the user agreement and stops your account.
Is there a fair appeals system using third party arbitration backed up by law that protects you rights as a consumer, or is it just up to steam whether to re-instate you?
(Remember, if there is no legislation in your country to protect you, you could lose ALL your games that you paid hard earned money for.)

It's an honest question, who/what defends your consumer rights if there is problem with your steam account?

I'd drive over to their office and demand that they give me the equivalent amount of snacks. That way I wouldn't need someone/something to defend my consumer rights.

On a serious note, Valve is currently dealing with some Germans that believe that a consumer should be able to resell its property. There are consumer advocacy groups out their reading Steam's EULA every time it changes.

As for your fair appeals system, yes and no. If they terminate your account, you can drop them a line and try to iron it out. They are very friendly. If you can't iron it out, you're going to have to take them to court.
Unfortunately for the majority of Steam's subscribers, the steam subscriber agreement is executed in Washington state. Any case you want to file against them has to be filed in a King County court.

Valve is not going to terminate your account because you were cheating or being a nuisance. They will terminate your account if you're breaking the law, using exploits online, or breaking Steam.

While Steam's legal stuff may be draconian, the user experience is pretty ****ing sweet.

It seems pretty clear to me that LFS and Steam aren't a good fit... I don't know why it is still being discussed.
Mountaindewzilla
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I would love to see LFS leverage steamworks, but I don't think it'd make a very big difference in my LFS experience.

What would be the purpose of publishing there anyway? There are plenty of sim sites that will do articles on LFS when S3 drops. LFS comes up on the second page of results when I google "racing simulator" while signed out.
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Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from the_angry_angel :Edit: I wrote this at the end of a long, shitty shift. I apologise if it comes across as short and argumentative. That wasn't the intention.

In your example code you weren't using a named argument to refer to UCID (note the difference between 255 and the "Hello?" in the below quote, now checkout insim.py and look at the __init__ definition)



Therefore you are refering to ReqI since it's the first argument in the definition of IS_MTC. I assumed it was actual code you were using, I apologise. I should've read your mind.

I assumed my examples were correct when I read the reply.
Your post was funny and informative, no need to second guess the tone.
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Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from the_angry_angel :Try
insim.send(pyinsim.IS_MTC(UCID=User.UCID, Msg='Hi there!'))

The first argument is normally ReqI, which you're attempting to set, rather than UCID.

My problem was caused by neglecting to set the ReqI. Thanks
Python doesn't care about the order of keyword arguments. I could put UCID after Msg if I wanted to.

I don't know how to use ReqIs. Request ID? To be honest, I use totally arbitrary numbers.
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Mountaindewzilla
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To send a message to a user, I'd do something like the following, right?
insim.send(pyinsim.IS_MTC(User.UCID, Text='Hi there!'))

The message only shows up on the server.
The same thing happens when I do this:
insim.send(pyinsim.IS_MTC(255, Text='Hello?'))


I'm using the most recent version of pyinsim.
Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from Franky.S :next joke please!

I feel you.

Maybe if there wasn't such a strong tendency to go from saccharin sweet to bitchy and demanding, Scawen (and Eric) would post here more often.

Do you guys think that Scawen could participate in a normal thread without the same shit happening?
It's always the "It's so great to hear from you, you're the most cool person ever" type of posts followed by the disapproving-fan-letter posts.
Mountaindewzilla
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It'd be kinda spiffy if there was some kind of unified licensing system, amirite?

I don't see the necessity for having hundreds of servers and tons of isolated InSim apps. Why are there so many proprietary InSim apps? Why are there so many empty servers?
Mountaindewzilla
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rockclan seems to share the hacker's "Make a stink and you will be rewarded" mentality.
The interesting thing is that he's gotten positive responses for illustrating that similarity.

Anyway, I'm very pleased to see Scawen being so cool. I would have responded rather negatively to the "young jedi".

Though it took a few weeks for the issue to be addressed, the way this is being handled suggests a bright future for LFS.
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Mountaindewzilla
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Quote from bbman :Because HMDs differ so much from normal displays...

How many of you actually own a TrackIR?
... Thought so...

Tell me what's so special about these, because I can't see a single new idea on these, and they still have the same shitty resolution every other HMD has...

Low latency motion tracking, large field of view, low weight, low price.

They accept extreme distortion because it is now possible to correct the distortion in software cheaply.
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