Quote from Drift_anton :

forgot and steering like a real drift car 48.0

In the old client just released the XRT's max steering angle is 45!

Why did that change?


The fact that Scawen released a fix for an old version tells me that things are in great shape

Quote from dadge :

the fact that they are not released means that it's not possible. but as soon as they're ready, they'll be released.

You took the words right out of Scawen's mouth!

Quote from Scawen :

Eric has been working on some more S3 content but he would like to get nearer to finishing before we show any new pictures.

Quote from Scawen :

...the FZ updates are near complete and we are keen to get that released along with the FXO updates as soon as possible...

As soon as possible, huh?
Eric could find time to make a model of a car that hasn't been released for two years, but he couldn't find time to finish near complete interiors.

There is allegedly "some" new content for S3, but it is either so rough or so much better than LFS's current standard that it isn't being revealed.


Honestly is the best policy.

Last edited by Mountaindewzilla, Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:05. Reason : This is stupid.

Quote from Ales_M :

He will crack it , like all do before buying it. Itbrtitnt you should start s2 layout police squad.

I never cracked it.

Evidently EvL Skillz doesn't have the skills to pay the bills.
The S2 bill, anyway.

My dream is like this:
The physics patch is released, and shortly after that, a ton of content is put on sale.

It'll happen eventually.
Will I be too busy playing something else to care?

Does it really matter?

I think that Scavier is a role model for indie-games.
Do whatever you want, when you want because you want to.
If you don't feel like going on the forum, or working for that matter, you simply don't have to.

Most excellent.

That said, I prefer Notch's approach.

Scawen has valid reasons for not doing what Notch does, but I think that some draconian posting rules could address them.
I for one don't mind censorship when it is in the form of banning people that talk about late releases, missing features, how LFS is "dying" or similar. Unfortunately, automated forum moderation is a dream

Oh, regarding OP: I'd hope they'd open LFS up quite a bit. Allowing it to connect to any server, decrypting content, releasing docs or source snippets etc.
In reality, probably a farewell news post.

Scavier isn't going anywhere.

Here's my main drifting set.

I'd like to hear whatever you have to say about it

Edit:
I'll work on making sets suited to particular courses, starting with SO. They will be posted in the drift setups thread.

Thank you for trying the sets, and thank you for the feedback

Last edited by Mountaindewzilla, Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:09. Reason : /thread

Quote from herki :

Justified reply

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, are they?

OP is a refreshing variation on the theme :nol2:

Quote from Nicce :

dl´d it and was watching it in pit..
no saying how it acts on track and in drifting cause i didnt test it like i said.

the following opinions are just WHAT I THINK.!!!

swaybars: wrong.. dont see the usefull of thoes settings in drifting cause u dont let the chassi flex at all.

parallel steering.. u dont need it in drifting.. at least i dont. when i race it´s another thing.

gears and this is about the final drive.. it looked like it was race speed cause the rpm will be low and yes it´s a personal thing how u set it up but i like highrpm´s and MANNY in lfs drifting like´s it.

+cambers on front and rear ??

i´ll stop now..

k.. i agree drift set´s are personal and what works for U maby not gonna work for ME.. i just say what i think and i allways done that so i will keep it up.

Yeah... That is a three year old set for an incompatible patch.
I like to think that my tuning ability has improved at least slightly since then.

My tendency is to use pretty mild setups, though I've been working on a competitive set that I will be posting if I get good results.

The attached is what you'll see me using on Drift Wars 1v1, FE, and SO. I wanted a stable, predictable set for getting back into LFS.
Add an extra gear and more lock for the real deal.

Tell me what you think of the handling, not the settings screen

If you have an image editor with layers, you could take the AU1 background from this, overlay the layout you want, load it up in aforementioned program, and use it as a template.

That's what I would try, anyway

Quote from K.David :

I long quit LFS for reasons I shall not disclose to avoid people mistaking me for your average whiner but I do check the home page and the forum for signs of progress. And it's not like I'd want my ten minutes that I waste every month back.

Anyway, I have a theory. The premise is that Scavier had to sign a contract to get the Scirocco and Rockingham, which would mean that they'd be liable to pay whatever sum for a breach of contract if they completely stopped working on LFS and never released the above things, right? Don't get me wrong, I don't want the devs to face legal consequences, I'm just implying that maybe this can be understood as a guarantee that we will see progress? Because right now the most important question for me is not when they'll update the game but if they ever will.

The doubt some people express on here bewilders me.
Take a moment, and imagine this: Your job is doing something you are passionate about on your own terms.

Do you want to quit?

Anyway, regarding the Scirocco, I'm curious if S3 will be including a racing variant. That'd be a nice way to capitalize on the Scirocco license while still giving license holders another freebie.

Would you be interested in a R-Cup style Scirocco? Could make for some great single make racing, as it does irl.

I hope this isn't ground covered, but it is better to repeat this than the same negative BS, right?

Last edited by Mountaindewzilla, Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:49.

Quote from Dygear :

RAWR :gnasher:

I think something like this should be stickied, or maybe these boards should be locked for every user until they answer a question about programming or insim

I think that a "BEFORE YOU ASK" sticky, if there isn't already one, is a good idea.
"My first insim" doesn't really get the point across, I think.

umpkin:

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Options at the bottom..

Private Public Empty TCP
[YES] [YES] [YES] [YES]

Wow... I had no idea that there were like SEVEN HUNDRED empty servers.
We need a few thousand more active players

I don't think I've ever even seen people in there before.

Also, "Can join 802"? WHAT!?
I never get more than 140. At the moment is like 112.

Speaking of spam, I got a PM earlier from a demo racer with zero posts asking for my MSN. I haven't been on a demo server since before he signed up so I find myself very suspicious if his request. At least he wasn't offering me free pussy for 50 euro.

Thank you, PoVo and DarkTimes!

I feel embarrassed asking, but how to you send colored messages?
Doing this:

Gives me the in-game result:
Host:^1Red

instead of

Host:Red

Based on what I read in LFSLapper, my assumption is that what I did above should work.

Quote from Rhama :

maybe try this d for directn, h for heading

static double AbsoluteAngleDifference(double d, double h)
{
double absdiff = Math.Abs(d - h);

if (absdiff <= 180)
return absdiff;

if (d < 180)
{
h -= 360;
return d - h;
}
else
{
d -= 360;
return h - d;
}

}

Excellent! Your solution seems to work perfectly.

In Python, I've written it like this:


I imagine this could be refined, but it works! Hooray!

Thank you all for your help :lovies3d:

Quote from Dygear :

f is just a cheap way of saying function.

Direction is where your car is going. Heading is where your car is facing.

Absolute(Absolute(Heading) - Absolute(Direction)) = Drift Angle.

That absolutely doesn't address the problem.

If a car's y axis is offset from the track's y axis by 2 degrees, and its direction of travel is offset from the track's y axis by 358 degrees, your method will return 356 degrees of yaw.

I don't want to throw these values away, I just need something a bit more robust than subtraction.

Digging up an old thread, but I don't think (heading - direction) is quite right when dealing with ISP_MCI.

My question is, when finding yaw, if my direction is something like seven degrees, and my heading is 355 degrees, how do I find the correct value?

To rephrase:
direction = 359
heading = 15
f(direction, heading) == 16

Define f

Quote from Mazink :

he won't do it. and the g27 owners will have to wait for a unofficial addons that make them work

Great optimism there.

Quote from Alec01 :

Should of locked it a long time ago, full of crap opinions and moaning.

I imagine the reason that this thread is still around is to contain a lot of the crap opinions and moaning.

I think the Logitech Profiler is already too automated D:

Quote from Vertic :

...perspective...

Code review

Quote from rockclan :

...work this out...

Last I read from Scawen, he wasn't making much in the way of progress; at least, that's what I took away from it. The reason I made my post was because of this pattern:

"Scawen should get some programmers"
"No he shouldn't, it'd be a disaster"

What I'm trying to say is: If you've been stuck on a problem for a year, it might be worth considering hiring someone with the appropriate skill set to help with same. It's not hiring someone to help with the project in general. It's just the one problem.

For all we know, Scawen has hired a consultant or two. It's not like he'd advertise it.


I imagine we'll be getting an e-mail this year

Do you think it would be accurate to say that this year and a half of stagnation is due to one algorithm?

Assuming Scawen wrote specs for the tire code, how much would someone really need to know about LFS's internals to work on this problem?

I've been here long enough to see that Scawen really doesn't need help with LFS when it isn't this tire physics problem; but... it's this tire physics problem.

I made this one for 45+ degree steering.
The gears are really short, so add a sixth gear for enhanced pleasure.