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NightShift
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Quote from imthebestracerthereis :Here we go again...

Dust off the Mad Max VHS tapes and don't forget to carry along a six pack
NightShift
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Quote from Intrepid :Yes it is going to be tough on the countries that supply America, but in the long run this is to their benefit.

In the long run we're all dead and as it is now, Chindia is not developed enough to 'drive' the economy to use your term.

PS: you forgot weapons
NightShift
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Quote from Gunn :People who suck at racing will still suck at racing, no matter how uniform the setup options are.

IMO the main consequence of locked (to a degree) sets, would be that newcomers had one less thing to learn or worry about.
NightShift
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If F1 cars had diesel engines, then it would have made some sense
NightShift
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Quote from 5haz :Indeed, 2 billion dollar loaf of bread anyone?

That would require a drastic change in the consumption pattern of the world. As things are now, if the americans somehow don't resume buying, all the others will go down the drain
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NightShift
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Quote from ajp71 :if a driver can't cope with anything other than enormous understeer they shouldn't be on the road

Someone is mistaking the public roads for a track All we Joe Drivers are required to do, is drive safely, which means we shouldn't even approach the limits of the car.

If after all understeer does happen, all that Joe Driver does is lift the right foot because it's the most natural thing to do = I'm scared, I want to slow down.

Which is why RWD is dangerous for an untrained driver = 99.9% of the licensed population, including those who think they can drive, until proven wrong by wrapping their car around a tree or running over some innocent bystander.
NightShift
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Quote from Forbin :I'm going to call BS on any FWD car having anywhere near a 50/50 mass distribution. Most are closer to 60/40.

and the other reason behind the success of FF (besides the easy, predictable handling) is that layout, unlike FR, makes for short bonnet cars with a spacious inside.

The (original) Mini is quite a clear example of that.
NightShift
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I would expect to have increasing adjustability going from the slowest (UF1) up to the fastest (FZ5, LX4&6), all the cars should also be more ajdustable than the Scirocco, since that one appears to be quite strictly limited.
NightShift
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Quote from Mille Sabords :Trying that for a few laps helped me find the threshold much faster that the usual tedious process (save a replay and check with the force view where it locks).

Yep it also makes easier to tune brakes as you'll see which wheels are locking in which corners. I was surprised to notice some locking in corners where I thought there was none.

Quote from Mille Sabords :Does the ABS really give a further advantage that than extreme setup option?

Another good point.
NightShift
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IMO ABS would be a welcome addition for cleaner racing on the entry level (and demo) servers as it almost completely removes the chance of making mistakes, especially in those tricky spots where locking the brakes means upsetting the car.

New and recent players who would benefit from the ABS, will have to relearn their braking technique as soon as they move to one of the faster cars (FBM comes to mind).

About the XFG, I'm likely thinking of the wrong car because I remember some trims had 2-way ABS as an option, and wikipedia seems to agree with me

Quote from amp88 :edit: ABS is going to be quicker...if it wasn't they wouldn't have developed and used it in F1 before it was banned.

ABS has been developed to increase driveability under heavy braking, e.g. avoiding a stationary object on a wet road.

As a snailfast driver, I did not benefit from the ABS in the XFG. Admittedly I've only tested it on one combo, and it may be that only faster drivers are able to put it to good use.
NightShift
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Just the VWS, so far.
NightShift
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Quote from Drifting Mad 762 :Ok, the first 3 people to join get the highest rank apart from Admin Or Moderator

Normally The Highest would mean you have to post 5000 times or more and is The BEST

Where do I sign to sell my soul?
NightShift
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Quote from Rotary :So, in LFS, if your brake force is low you will be less likely to lock/skid the wheels and therefore ABS won't engage that often. If you set the brake force high, it will be easier for you to lock/skid your wheels when braking and therefore ABS will kick in more often. Just like now, it's just a matter of testing the setup on the track to find the braking threshold

I think his question boils down to, given the announce about limited setup choices, the max brake pressure could (will?) be set to one fixed value - will the devs choose to a high number or rather a low one?

If you look at the screenshot, it appears that a specific choice could favor drivers with some type of equipment over another. E.g. load cell brakes and nixim-modded G25s would work better with a high max force.

IMO the braking power in a car is only, as Scipy says, virtually unlimited (there are several factors limiting how much force can realistically be applied on the pedal, the most obvious being the strength of the driver)

IIRC it was said an average person on an average road car would be unable to make wheels lock over 80 km/h (assuming a decently grippy, dry surface with the camber changes which are usually found on public road)
NightShift
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Quote from mrodgers :If GM had put that back into research of new technologies and fuel efficiencies, I would feel for them. Instead, the CEOs lined their pockets for years and now they are jumping on the bailout bandwagon.

This happens whenever the rewarding model is such that you receive a prize every time you make decisions which favor short-term profit over anything else - managers then value tomorrow's stock price more than the chance to end up broke within 2 years.

No matter how it turns out they have their pockets full already.
NightShift
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Quote from SamH :I feel bad for Scawen. I can't begin to imagine how it feels to have to announce a delay like this, knowing the excitement that the VW has brought to the community.

Exactly my thought, must have been a bitter pill to swallow. Also because I think he (they) really wanted to give us the xmas gift
NightShift
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Quote from Liff :Everyone has noticed it.

Wonder why it took so many posts to even make you aknowledge there is a problem

Quote from Liff :It has been discussed on the forums for ages.

"Forums" ? Like what? we are on LFSforum, and this thread had just a few mentions of this limitation in iRacing.

Quote from Liff :It's just not such a huge issue for the vast majority of sim racers,

AFAICT iRacing has less licensed users than most other sims, so the vast majority of sim racers is actually racing something else.

The vast majority of iRacing racers might agree, though after blowing 150$+/year +all the extras, many of them are probably too intently watching elsewhere to avoid taking notice of the shortcomings.

Quote from Liff :I believe it's largely because of the reasons I mentioned in my last couple of posts.

Your point basically summed up to, "shifters are not extremely realistic, so why bother simulating a detailed transmission?"

Along the same lines, you could say FFB wheels are not extremely realistic as well, "so why bother adding FFB support?"
NightShift
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Quote from GTA_Racer07 :Djeezes, anyway, any more delays

Ehhhh must be hard having paid all that monny since apr 2007 and no scirocco in sight yet!!!

Quote from GTA_Racer07 :and I explode !

Go ahead.
NightShift
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Quote from mobu :Driving on South City now feels much less bumpy both concerning the shaking of the cockpit view and the force feedback.

I only focused AS7 as this is the combo I've raced almost every day recently. The bump on the finish line is still very visible, and IMO the FFB is not significantly different.

The rumblestrip is another matter though...

Quote from mobu :I wonder if this is an intentional change or it is a side effect of one of the many internal changes announced for this patch...

Considering that Scawen did not comment on this, I guess he is focusing on graphic glitches, but it might as well be intended. Let's wait and see.
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NightShift
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Quote from Hyperactive :Tbh. I haven't seen anything hinting that anything is done to this aspect. I'd guess the sciroppo comes with "full lfs handling package". There was none of this done with the FBM either which defenately is a series where you can't extensively modify the car.

"Our aim is to make the Scirocco our first car with very limited setup options. The plan is to make it have only the setup options that are readily available on a real road going Scirocco, for example tyre pressures and toe settings. This will mean that the racing should be closer than usual and rely on driver skill, without the need to search for the best setups. Of course this means we need to get the setup as good as possible so it is comparable with the real car."

Source: lfs.net.

Quote from AndroidXP :I doubt it will be very inspiring. Don't forget it has traction control, too.

So has the FZ5.
NightShift
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Quote from deggis :Aren't the race_s setups already done by someone else than a dev?

Yep, I think if you have the patience to go through the end roll when you quit LFS you can see the credits for those.
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