Quote from tristancliffe :

No overheads?
Customers walking away?
Extra hands?

You don't get LFS either do you, and you certainly don't 'understand' the developers...

Your right i dont, i run my own business and i rent the building i work from which would you believe isn't cheap certainly not as cheap as working from home.

Walking away is probably the wrong wording but just looking at the constant "why is it taking so long" and "Whats happening" threads one has to wonder.

And yes extra hands, theres talented people in this "community" that could aid the devs with the precious.

So your probably right on all counts Tristan, i dont get it and i dont understand the developers.

I just want to purchase there product,there complete product.

Now thats enough of this subject,its getting old...

Quote from Leprekaun :

Well, considering that you have over 8k posts, I'd say you're doing more talking that racing and for your information, as I'm writing this post, I'm actually working on my driver profile and have already created a helmet design and will start on my own website tomorrow. So you're 26 and still in F3!? sheesh! thats old and considering Sato who started karting at 19 and got to F1, I'd say my chance of getting to F1 is waay stronger than yours, oh yeah, and I'm 17 btw so according to the average of how long it takes a driver to get to F1 and a bit of luck which we all know about, I should be between 21-22 when I get to F1 whilst with you, your best bet is 28 (which if we were honest is too old to start in F1) and thats if you race in GP2 next year and smash the competition which I believe won't happen since you can't even win an F3 race and at clubman level.

Oh yeah! I thought I should mention to you, my performance was either equal or better than my competitors in those few karting races I've done when they've been racing karts for over 6 years, among them, a couple of national rotax champions and thats karts, little machines that I don't really focus on much.

See tristan, I never wanted to mention all of this, despite the fact that I was so effin pissed about your harsh remarks and I did let out a bit in that post but only stated that you're being very discouraging but when you like to take swipes at people, when people respond that 9/10 times they will reply with harsh hurtful comments. I thought you'd know, I mean, you're 26 aren't ya? should know these kind of things.

I admire your enthusiasm but honestly stop talking your making a fool of yourself....

But back to the topic at hand, i hope Rosberg stays at Williams.Doesnt matter who has the second ride at Mcferrari as i think they might have a hard year ahead.







































GO WEBBER!! (SILENCE TRISTAN!)

Quote from tristancliffe :

But that is the thing - they aren't making LFS to 'make money'. It currently, apparently, covers their costs and allows them to live happily, and allows them to work at their pace. If you don't like that work ethic, then LFS isn't for you in the long term.

Living happily is all anyone can hope for...

There making it from home and when it suits, i for one cant believe there not making money on it when theres no overheads and only three ppl at the pie (probably only two really).

But back to the topic, its taking too long and there customer base is walking away which is a bloody shame.

Theres a lot of talented people out there , maybe its time for some extra hands?

Quote from NitroNitrous :

Spaniard press says that Red Bull is his first objetive, but he only wants to go there for facilitate his way to Ferrari.
I hope he never goes to Ferrari, it would be a nightmare :zombie:

If he takes Webber's seat ninja's wil be dispatched to his home immediately...

NINJA'S WITH FRIKKEN LASER'S!!!!


Unless that is Webber gets a seat at McFerrari of course.....

No need to reply thanks tristancliffe your Webber hatred is well known

Yes that would be awesome!






If you class eating your anus as awesome....

Ugly cars

The rear wing and air intake are just plain wrong


Good racing though

Lowndes or one of the young guys would be nice.

Was a better race when it was multi class , ahhh the good old days...

GO GO mighty datsun 1200 coupe on crossply tires!

I understand Webber and Vettel pushing that line and rightly so ,interesting to hear other complaining about his tactics as well.

Quote from evilgeek :

yes, he could have. he could have followed the safety car at a reasonable pace, like he was supposed to, and if he'd been doing that then he wouldn't have needed to slow down at all.

but i forgot, hamilton is perfect. he makes perfect starts, perfect stops, has perfect strategy, and is a great guy who everyone should look up to. foregive me for calling a spade a spade, but he's just as dirty as MS, if not more so.

I dont know if dirty is the word but he is every bit as aggressive and cunning as MS,the guy is driven (please no pun intended)no doubt but i think all the really good ones are.

Its been a national week of mourning in Australia,where there name Vettel has the same sort of punch as the "c" word..

Seriously LH drove a great race but behaved incredibly stupid behind the pace car,to drive that way in those conditions shows little regard for any poor bastard behind him.

Very poor form!

GO CASEY!!!

fantastic job all year, you the man!

MotoGp is not a control class,Ducati had the best package all year
Its up to the other teams to lift not the other way around,we have seen dominance before this season was no different.

Being a long time Rossi fan i have to say i,m torn to see him go down though...

Quote from tristancliffe :

Webber won't be in a top team... ever.

Bruno Senna isn't honed enough yet

Lewis was well known in British F3 and GP2. Plenty knew about him since his links with McLaren started.

As it says in this weeks Autosport, the racing is a battlefield, not a finishing school. No need to be too polite about matters. Hamilton will have to learn that people won't always let him passed like Kimi did in Monza (which was an easy pass of a slightly crippled car - Kimi didn't even bother defending properly).

I know that being Australian defending Webber probably counts for nothing, but the guy regularly puts cars that dont deserve it well up the order in qualifying and in the race itself ( if the car doesnt detonate).

He is not a Schumi,Alonso or dare i say it Hamilton, but he consistently outpaces DC ad just about every team mate he has had.

I would love to see him in a good car to see if he has the goods i believe he has.

Yes your right , and i really do understand its just three guys that have made and awesome sim.

And i hear where your coming from talking about Windows and Bf2/2142 etc etc,but they are not charging for an alpha or a beta (even though we all know most software is rushed and patched later)
and S2 has been alpha for a bloody long time.

It makes me laugh how we use that alpha tag to our advantage, we use it to defend the sim when somebody says Rfactor is better and then we say its not an alpha when someone complains (like me i guess) that it is still in alpha.

Anyways good work Devs, enough said on this one.

Yes that is true,

Still the product is sold incrementally and i dont think its entirely unreasonable to expect two finished parts of the product to be delivered with five plus years of development .

I dont want to sound like an arsehole but tell me where else do you pay in advance for an unfinished product and then wait for some amount of time for it to come out of alpha, beta etc etc,

I know everyone says be patient but....

Over 5 years of development and still not even two thirds done?

We must have to have the patients of a Saint ..


I,m not paying out the Dev Team, i guess i,m impatient and what to see whats been promised so long ago.

That in turn been fossilised

Bored

I hate to put the Dev team down but i honestly cant see LFS ever getting alot better or different that what it is now,the rate of development is just too slow.

I think what the devs have done for a three man team is amazing but you have to be honest that things like, engine temps, brake temps, head lights and real time weather etc etc are not going to happen when its been so long to update the interiors of the GTR cars?

I hope i,m proven wrong and everyone can call me names.

Hamilton is good no doubt, but hes not the Messiah..

I think its pretty funny how ppl keep bringing up "oh he is in the best car and driver X could to the same job" thats utter rubbish,the real fast guys always end up in the best cars.

Always have always will..

As for setups being shared i would bet that neither Alonso or Hamilton have any real say in the final setup of the car anyways,could you imagine it "What camber you running Fernando? Umm like i know Lewis you knob! ask one of those laptop carrying guys"

Or something along those lines..

1:LFS
2:GTL (such great cars and atmosphere)
3:Rally Masters
4:Wipeout
5:V8SC mod for Rtractor (Again the cars are awesome and the sound is cool)

BF1942 and GTA have better car physics than some "sims"

The guy is just telling you about it, nothing more...

Theres way too much crap dished out to the devs on this forum lately, yes were hanging for new content and for things to be fixed and s2 finalised.

But seriously if i were the devs reading this tripe day in day out i would be inclined to say "f__k these ungrateful wankers i,m walking"

Back to Fandago's idea

big +1 , theres nothing wrong what so ever just submitting designs

Top Idea

They look like the should be on a 50's HotRod,fekking ugly things

Oh for the days of when F1 cars looked horny instead of horned..

Quote from Maelstrom :

It's funny to see how many people are pissed by the crusing/city driving servers. Hey it's just a relief tool, a great one. When I was not in the mood to do a race I used to drive alone offline with winamp running in the background. Now I can do the same with many other players around. Some of you complain that it steals drivers from the racing servers? If there was no crusing servers they would probably not even be online at this time, maybe not even playing LFS

That sounds like your were almost going to go outside,almost..

Well an Alien set does not make an Alien driver thats for damn sure,

Anyone thats says there no such thing as natural talent is kidding themselves,time and time again we see prodigies/genius in all walks of life.

Why is it ppl like Schumacher can make all there team mates look like chumps in the same machinery? ,or carry a car that doesnt deserve to win and make it win?
Mick Doohan was the same..

Eat a kebab and a 1ltr of Coke should fix your right up...

Quote from Lotesdelere :

Yes, same here
Not only better FPS but the whole thing is smoother than before, which is good.



Seriously I don't understand why it bother you so much as long as YOU can use the options YOU want.
You will never join a cruising server and the cruisers will never try to win Masters of Endurance but both drivers can enjoy LFS as well, just in a different way.
Notice that no one complained when the false starts were introduced. There were some little discussions about clutch and handbrake, but no one said that the false starts are a bad idea. The problem with the view is that it's related to the feeling and feedback you get from the game AND it's directly related to the hardware you have. Obviously, the people who are using two or three 19"+ monitors are not playing the same game as the people who are using a 15" single monitor. Well, it's the same game but you know what I mean :P



You got the point



Yes, they are aiming at making a simulation. But this is not incompatible with different ways of using it and with a good business strategy. To me the serious of the sim is about physics first. And I guess that's why we ALL enjoy LFS, hardcore racers or not. Damages, tyres, aerodynamics are examples of the next things to be improved.
The fact that LFS has good feedback and is already used, even as a show, by some famous racing teams, by some famous racers and by manufacturers like Force Dynamics and Frex already proves the serious of the simulation even if it's still in an alpha stage.

From a business point of view there is no point ending up with about 300 maybe 400 hardcore racers who have paid for the game three years ago and who are waiting for a release without giving money anymore. Any further update or version will even be more expensive for each one.
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Being quite older than the lot of you, I have run several business in my life and I'm still running one. And believe me or not, bankruptcy can come quicker than you think and all of a sudden. A permanent cash flow is required. If you loose a large part of your customers and/or restrict the customers you have to a specific category, then problems will occur sooner or later in any business.
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Yes, of course!

I too own my own business and as you well know its smart business to cater to your core customer base, that said you also dont want to alienate new customers in the process.

What this patch is doing is giving server owners the tools to run there servers they way they see fit, its not taking away Scaviers customers rights or enjoyment that decision is totally in the hands of the end user..