Wow Gary Neuman (spelling)!

listened to a mad live set a few weeks ago, excellent

Now get back to NFS:CarbonMostwantedUndergroundPorscheUnlimited

Yes that is an attempt at humour please do not take it seriously...

Maybe Scavier are at the point where they want there Sim to viewed as a "serious" sim and are slowly removing the aspects that might be labeled "Arcade"?

Who knows, personally theres more then enough room for all types of play model.

And for the ppl who think hardcore is the road to ruin i think they better check out GPL , still kicking after all these years..

Just like driving an R/C car, totally detached

You still missed the point,
And your still behaving like a child , i dont like this so i,m taking my bat and ball and going home

Personally i cant see many servers closed to "your kind" some leagues maybe but i cant see many servers enforcing it.

****ing storm in a teacup...

Jesus guys theres 300000000 threads crying for change and when some change comes we have 20000 crying like my 4yr old boy when i tell him its bed time.

How many servers do actually think will enforce it? Truly calm the hell down and put your panties back on..

This reminds me alot when bunnyhopping was nerfed in CS/TFC so many ppl cried that they would stop playing and it was all doom and gloom, now who cares?

Quote from eRaptor :

That's the point... If LFS have only cockpit view when I've tried it, it would occupy the same space as nkpro in my PC (0 bytes), and would cost me the same too...

All the more space for the NFS series...

Quote from Falcon140 :

Now i cant race anymore...

I get 2 fps in cockpit......

compared to my 13 in custom...

@GianniC

Agreed completly

If you get 13fps using NFS view surely it must be like a slide show at the start of a race?

That makes me wonder aloud is , if LFS only ever shipped with cockpit view would any of the guys bitching about "the Option of forced cockpit view" play/race LFS at all?

None of the views are super realistic , for along time i used the first person/bumpercam view and still do from time to time, but for me personally the cockpit view is far more rewarding from the perspective of realism and difficulty .

I see the big difference as this, the cockpit view guys are driving LFS for the simulation of car racing and the NFS view guys look at LFS as a game.

I have nfi how driving a car from behind the boot can convey what driving a race car feels like.

Thanks for the speedy replies guys, and there all nice too

Sorry to ask ( and yes i searched first) but where is the link to pay for the hi-res skins?

Please go easy with the insults

Jesus i feel horrible after watching that,the really disturbing part for me was how many died racing at ovals?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Isn't he that quick guy in the Minardi?

Quick and cursed, cursed i say!

I said leave Webber out of this

Quote from tristancliffe :

With occasional quotes from Sam "I'm too poor/untalented to race myself, so I try to belittle all the real-life racers in an attempt to divert attention from my real life ability" 1600.

Owning, using or seeing an F3 car has not changed my perceptions of what is fair on track or off. The only thing that has changed is my respect for Formula drivers in the wet - truly amazing! But I'm trying to learn FROM F1, not using my false sensibilities to judge F1. I just hope that moves like Alonso's don't become too commonplace.

By the way, all Australians are convicts; only fit for the noose.

True,
One day us convicts must show our English masters how to ride MotoGp and SBK and most every other class we we enter into

All that aside God Bless Barry Sheene, he showed that the English can be cool and ride a bike

ps: Leave Webber out of this

Quote from sam1600 :

This is too funny - Tristan "my Dad bought me an F3 so now I'm an expert" Cliffe vs. Will "rental kart legend" Dendy and Alan "I wrote a webpage about overtaking!" Whateverhislastnameis.

It's like the LFSForum special olympics!

Whichever retard comes across as the most self-important, arrogant, pompous tosser, wins!

THATS GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!

If an arrogance meter was ever invented it would go off its tits around this place..

mmmm pineapples....

Play CS or any TFC to just how ucking annoying ingame Voice is, fmd i hit that mute button the second i hit the server....

I,m sure it was very funny the first 1000 times to hear the Postman Pat Theme played over and over..

Quote from duke_toaster :

Sears Point would need some changes, but it would be great. F1 cars + carousel =



Totally unworkable. Too narrow, surrounded with concrete (not armco, not steel and foam energy reduction, concrete) walls, No runoff, probably inadequate pits. No overtaking there at all other than outbraking at 2 or 3 corners.

V8s there is pushing it. F1 there, you have been smoking the same stuff as Bernie.

With the exception of going back to Adelaide or going to Surfer's (good luck trying to get it out of CCWS hands), there are no capable venues for F1 in Australia. I wouldn't particularly miss the Aussie GP TBH.

Thats because you have the luxury of seeing many Gp's within a days drive ( ok ok i really dont know much about europe but its a pissy small place compared to Australia)

Keep up that attitude and F1 will be a lovely provincial little race series...

Kind of like how the Americans have world titles only in America and only played by Americans You could model F1 of the World Series Baseball.....

Please dont think i,m some LH fanatic , Im a Webber fan (wonder why) sure LH has been given the best car of the season so far yet he is still right up there if not beating his team mate who is also in this wonder car, i take my hat off to a guy that comes into a new category and sticks it to the Two Times World Champ in the same equipment , i,m sorry but thats something a little special...

Quote from ajp71 :

I saw Alonso following Hamilton, realising he couldn't pass him because he wasn't sufficently faster and Hamilton wasn't making mistakes and then throw a wobbly because McLaren wouldn't use team orders.



He's yet to show any above average racing skills in F1 yet, if anything he has failed to prove he is it is being a racer. He is clearly very good at driving consistant fast laps and

I cant believe you can say that, podium every race and won twice what the phuck else does it take to prove it to you? Theres another 23 odd guys behind him every race that arent stepping up and racing him including his team mate.

I totally agree theres enough hype and bullshit about LH to fuel the world for the next 40 years but and its a big but this guy is doing the business unlike every other new and hot young superstar that people rave about..

Quote from jayhawk :

No...unless you fancy a overweight, gutless AWD car on a front wheel drive chassis with a poorly matched engine and stupidly large wheels. A car that looks good on paper, but is laughable and will be forgotten in the annals of automotive history. VAG failed. FAILED!!






FAILED!!

Guys the point is to update the shape and leave the chassis/engine as is...

Keep LFS fresh, imagine the amount of people that have played the demo over the years and have come back years later to once again see exactly the same content (cars only) i would bet many have just dismissed LFS as another sim with no progress and thats a bloody crime!

A crime i say! :soapbox:
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Quote from XenoWolf :

I'll never understand why people worry about Live for Speed's asthetic appeal. To me, it seems like people either don't understand what Live for Speed is trying to accomplish, or don't realize just how much (unnecessary) work re-modeling the cars every year or two would be.

Oh i understand all too well, but look at it a little differently
As someone has said in this thread earlier the Gti is the most iconic car in LFS, and that car is an late 80's econobox hot hatch.

What does that say about the sim we all love/like so well,try LFS you can drive an 85 Ford Ka Laser (323 mazda is the same car)....

Nothing wrong with and R32 Golf is there?

Quote from VTiRoj :

The only car that would benefit from the '07 treatment is the RAC (well okay its more '06 or something isnt it? )

-1 to new models, the cars havent changed since S1, and thats how it should be.

Exactly, every car/model gets updated why not ours?

Real world, all these cars would be shitboxes with a 10000000kms and rooted
We strive for reality with this sim, it would be totally unread for a car manufacturer to keep the same product line for what 6-7 years?

Keep the lineage at all costs but update the poor old boxy 80's specials

Mmmm i have been driving my high mileage XF GTi for quite a few years and i really want to trade it in on the 07 model GTi but i,m having trouble finding any dealerships to help me out has anyone got any ideas?

Seriously this is not a stab at the Devs or anyone or LFS , but dont you feel the cars are really dated? 80s Starion's , 90s Celica's Late 90's Supras etc etc

Leave there performance and handling alone its excellent as is but the cars really need a freshen up..

Dear God dont let them crucify me

Keep hearing how LH has the best team and best car, funnily enough so does Alonso (you know that dude with two titles and millions of miles of experience)to come into F1 without say the normal 2 odd years doing testing and podium every round is super impressive .

i think its pretty fair to say he is kicking some big goals , and probably deserves the accolades but everyone has had more then enough of the hype and PR bullshit , it will end up turning people against him as its doing now..

Seriously Hamilton could raise the dead and part the red sea and ppl would go meh anyone can do that....

Theres been plenty of wonderkids hit the scene in good cars and never kicked the goals this guy is doing,hes not the messiah or anything but he is good...

I,m a Webber fan (Go Aussie) i swear that guy eats black cats smothered in broken mirrors while walking underneath a ladder.