Quote from wild :

I think it would be more sensible to implement this in 2010. The FIA are introducing Standardised Engines then so there wont be no more KERS. Pretty much of a waste of time adding Kers for one year then taking it out.

KERS is not part of the engine and they did state that if they went for standardised engines then KERS would be one of the factors to provide performance differential.

Standardised engines is just a threat to concentrate FOTA's minds to producing cost saving ideas. It won't happen but even if it did then of course KERS would stay.

Back on Topic...

An up to date F1 car (licensed or just based on the regulations - it doesn't matter) would be a good thing.

Quote from .deFINe. :

This was a nice race. I didn't have the pace to keep up with FiredUp, but I had fun defending my position against storm_cloud who somehow ended up behind me at one point. It probably would've been close if he didn't have to leave.

Thanks for organizing.

Always a pleasure to fight with a professional like a spdo driver

Quote from S3ANPukekoh3 :

I bet my house the FIA will penalise Hamilton for SOMETHING in the last few laps, or even after the race, That will decide the title

I'll take that bet. Where is my new house?

Heikki and Lewis are gong be trying so hard not to hit each other and also neutralise Alonso that they could hit problems. It's probably harder to avoid problems at the start if you are driving to avoid problems at the start, if you see what I mean. It may be less instinctive so more hesitant.

Unregister me please - I'm going to watch the footy instead.

Changing compounds would be a disaster and make the series gimmicky and seem more like "Whacky Races". If you were to equate F1 tyres back to the LFS nomenclature then if prime is R3 then the option would be R2.6 or R2.7.

R2 are qualifying tyres for FO8 now. R3 and R4 would be less ridiculous, but there would still be no strategy in it as you would just run R4s for the shortest possible period.

As for the warmup lap - we tried that in OWRL F1 and it didn't really serve the purpose. Tyres were not warmed significantly and there are all the disadvantages (warmup lap crashes, drivers in wrong order, no native jumpstart penalty).

Good luck Kris! Well done on getting into CoRe

Quote from chunkyracer :

I see a problem with that. If a driver disconects he could be having problems with his Internet conection, or for example a electricity failure that prevents him to rejoin the server. In that case a disconection would mean race over for his team, so that can´t be an ideal solution...

Yes that's a problem, but then to fix that you would have to find a way of assigning different drivers to cars and there are no team affiliations coded into LFS.

Easiest thing where someone suffers connection problems is the current situation and that would have to be handled by trackers or replay examination.

Why can't the server just recored the number of completed laps and the returning disconnecter picks up his car from the pits with all the same damage, fuel etc as he had at the end of the last completed lap. It is probably too difficult to code all the different scenarios around driver takeovers, so the guy driving the last completed lap should return, even if he is handing over the car on the next lap.

Tempted to do this one because I missed the OWRL round here due to real life commitments. Put me down as a "maybe"

Quote from Forbin :

I've never seen anything like this in motorcycle racing (e.g. MotoGP). Teamwork just never really comes into play on the track. In the garage, some data may be exchanged between the two sides of a garage, but once they get out on the track, it's every man for himself.

Dani Pedrosa and Nicky Hayden - Valencia 2006. Dani let him blow past - partly team orders and partly because he took him out at the previous GP.

Why would the teams want shorter races? That equals less TV time so F1 would be worse value for money for their sponsors.

Don't forget there's a race on this weekend

Quote from tenmantaylor :

Setup requirements:

1 - Enough downforce for the fast corners. Specifically to allow to be flat in the sweep that connects the back straights and the majority of the high speed sweeps after hairpins. Any lifting here will lose time and sliding compound tyre overheating issues in race.

2 - High and soft enough not to accumulate too much damage in the corkscrew. Having to repair susp in race will negate any time gained from a fast setup.

3 - Tyre pressures are critical here, more so than many other circuits as corners are very high or very low speed. Low will be better for hairpins, high will be better for fast corners, straight line speed and keeping tyre temps under control. Finding the balance is key for race pace.

Driving style requirements:

This is one of the most demanding tracks in the BF1. Put a wheel wrong in the fast corners and your race is over. More so than a street circuit where little clouts of the barrier can be got away with. But to be quick you have to be massively commited on the right line. The slow corners require restraint. Even if it means braking a tad early. Its very easy to ruin the tyres on exits also if too little TC is used. Very little time is gained attacking the hairpins, over a stint youll lose lots of time.

Get to the finish without incident and a podium awaits you!

See you on track

I don't agree with number 2.

I ran shorter springs than I would normally here during the OWRL round this season. The rationale behind this is that the car runs lower to the ground and instead of the spring running out of compression the chassis instead will hit the ground and absorb the energy. This gives an easier ride to the suspension.

Using this theory I ran 59 laps with no repairs. This only works here as riding kerbs at Fern Bay for example is a different type of stress on the car.

Also, there are three hairpins and they, along with the other slow turn are the only places that time can be made. You spend more time in slow turns than fast ones and in flat out fast turns there is no possiblility to gain time. Tune the turn-in with coast diff, roll bars and dampers. Tune the exit with TC, preload, power diff and right foot.

On the one hand I don't think Hamilton is mentally ready to be world champion. On the other hand winning it may just calm him down a little and take the pressure off.

Mind you - the pressure on him must be enormous. There's only Heikki who is remotely on his side and he just dutifully follows him around at a respectful distance. Look at Alonso's comments - "I didn't see it but I'm glad he got the penalty." and also Kubica, Webber etc criticising him. With the whole grid against him he might just implode this weekend.

Exactly. So the FIA set a tariff of say £5m for a chassis and £1m for an engine. At the end of the weekend you can go to Ferrari's garage (or whoever) hand them over a cheque and they remove Kimi's fluffy dice (and hip flask no doubt) from the car and you take it home.

Quote from tinvek :

it'll favour the drivers that use their brains, no one will be able to drive at 100 % all the race and expect their brakes etc to be in perfect condition at the end.

you'll get a mix of tactics, do you go off like a bat out of hell at the start and hope to hang on at the end or do you take a "prost" approach of taking it a bit easier while the cars heavy and then push at the end, last time you had no refueling the cars that paced themselves were often up to 3 secs a lap quicker than the leaders in later parts of the race so you should get some good end of race battles.

That's just thinking back to what happened in the 1980s and it wouldn't apply today. Brake technology and materials are 30 years more advanced. and the races would be flat out sprints to the end with consumption controlled by computer (a la MotoGP).

Here's the big problem: they spend 2 days practicing and qualifying, then they put the fastest guys at the front and we expect the slower cars that start behind to overtake them. Fuel stops are the only saving grace at the moment because it means you can go light in Q3 and mix the grid up a bit.

If they want to cut costs and level the playing field then they should try the "claiming" rule that they are going to use in MotoGP 600 (or whatever the replacement for the 250s is called).

Woah mate - that sounds like a very nasty way to find out they've disabled "Reset" in real life too.

Glad to hear that you are better. I saw your name somewhere (maybe in the "Who's online" bit of owrl.de) a couple of days ago and I wondered where you had been.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Here's a decent angle on the Massa-Bourdais incident
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e2u93VT7m2s

That's just the view from the international feed - nothing new.

Seb's penalty was not a retrospective drive through - they announced they were going to investigate after the race. That means the penalty is appealable.

Do you think Scuderia Toro Rosso Ferrari will appeal?

Well I have to say that's a poor decision on the face of it, although TV viewers only got one view from the outside of the track. Makes you wonder what the onboards show. It could be that Bourdais clips the inside kerb and pops out wide into Massa, or maybe the back steps out and he corrects it into Massa.

Can't really judge it from what we have seen, although I suppose judgment will take a back seat for the next hour or two in this thread.

Quote from hyntty :

The livestream broadcast, right on time on monday as I promised...

http://blip.tv/file/1341630/

Again, for optimal video (which still is crap), click 'Files and links' to get the wmv

Superb job on the broadcast. I thought the commentary was rather good - it is extremely difficult to sit there and talk about a race like that. Very well done. Favourite commentator quote:

"He's so close he could reach out and touch him with his legs - but he won't, coz he's driving"

It's a good idea, surely there would be enough interest in this?

So I guess all the privacy lovers on here are steadfastly standing shoulder to shoulder with Max Moseley in his new privacy case?

Well done Hibex - extraordinary consistency.