Have we seen a track map of the new layout yet?

Hairdresser's car? Ford Puma? Mazda?

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

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Utterly awesome

Off topic: Hello Grandlhuber :wave2:

Back on:

I quite like the idea of circuits evolving and updating in a realistic way, I think it helps the immersion. by that I mean that if they stuck a massive hill in the middle of Blackwood I wouldn't be so keen, because that isn't what would actually happen.

Equally, you can't really drive on old versions of real tracks once they have evolved. They have changed several corners at the Indy GP track (a similar looking upgrade to Westhill), but you can't rock up there in real life and say "I want to drive the old version".

It depends on intent.

If the ball is passed to the keeper intentionally and it is controlled outside the box then brought in and picked up it is an indirect free kick from the point the ball was picked up. Intent is the key here, unlike say the offside rule. If a player tackles an attacker and the ball rolls to the goalkeeper then he can pick it up.

More bumps please

Quote from Be2K :

Okay when you disconnect you must start the actual round from the beginning, but what when you press Shift+P or Shift+S. As an example when you chrashed in a public race ? Its like a greencard to crash without loosing the whole race

Shift-P or Shift-S aren't disconnecting are they? If you choose to do that then you should be out of the race. You could crash and then pull the plug on your router, but that's why it would be good to carry over the damage and setup from prior to the disconnect. If you're already losing say half a lap by beginning again and you also have to fix damage before you leave then there aren't many situations where that would be considered an advantage.

Quote from Flame CZE :

I think he means the famous "Boothy Chicane", which makes the original "chicane" entering the oval more chicane-ish.

Indeed. Definitely deserves the namecheck there.

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KY3 is, aside from the oval to track transition which the community has fixed, an absolute classic. It does need a quick car, like FO8 or these infernal GTs. Had one of my all time favourite races there - never more than 3 seconds apart from my rival for the win for over an hour.

Oh and that rejoin thing mentioned above would be marvellous as it would remove the nonsensical race order and blue flag scenarios. Perhaps even carry over the setup and damage from prior to the disconnect.

Dick Dastardly's Mean Machine.

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USD 115,984 in change.

Quote from kars19 :

Hope AC gets some iRental like damage, where even small crash often means your race is over

Or GPL! Nurburgring was a killer but I couldn't bear to turn the damage off.

If the marshals can't work on a car off the racing line under yellows, then by logical extension they can't work on a car in the gravel trap either. All these drivers ignoring yellows could just as easily spin off the track as spin into any car stranded on the tarmac.

Safety car for any incident is the only logical conclusion to some of the arguments put forward.

It was a marginal call whether to SC or not, which is why I suspect it took a couple of minutes for them to figure out what to do. With no debris, fire etc and an intact car off the racing line this is what double waved yellows are for.

Respect for the flags can be brought back very quickly with a couple of disqualifications.

Or change the rules, if no one wants to follow them, but Indycar / NASCAR style racing is not an improvement - Race 2 at Toronto was more than 50% yellow yesterday.

Quote from aoun :

Well when someone comes around that corner with wheel spin or losses it over the kerbs and hits a marshal, then peoples opinions will change. Its called a "Safety" car for a reason.

You cant "hope" and "expect" for marshals and drivers to be safe. That's someones husband, parent, son etc. And what would some say to that statement, "well they should know the risks of being a marshal"? "They knew what they were getting into"?

Driver safety is of course important, but I cant help but feel a marshals is just as,if not more important. (more in the sense they are not in cockpits/$10k helmets)

There should have been a safety car, because if that was someone they knew and/or loved that got hit/killed from a car losing control, you'd damn race control for not having the safety car out.

Edit: (Yes I know I'm talking extreme cases, but you just never know!)

Double

Waved

Yellows

They weren't sending marshals out there with their shoe laces tied together whilst people took potshots from the stands with air rifles.

Marshalling is quite sophisticated nowadays - especially at an international event. Marshals are hooked into Race Control, as are the teams and by extension the drivers.

I don't buy the conspiracy either - it just looked like Race Control took a while to figure out what to do.

Quote from JackDaMaster :

I don't see the problem with the marshalls in the Sutil incident. Double waved yellows were out which indicates that you should be prepared to stop and race control knows where every car on track is so it is easy to find a gap in the traffic. Besides, marshalls go out on track all the time when they are able to pick up debris, often from even more dangerous positions

Also Sutil spun because the engine cut out mid corner

This.

The track wasn't blocked or strewn with debris. The car was not missing three wheels so could be rolled away and was not on the racing line. Hamilton complained about whizzing past the marshals so quickly - was he prepared to stop as the double waved yellows indicate?

Austria: locked rears over bumps

RF disc failure

What is wrong with cash for residency?

And, leastly, angular momentum (inertia).

I suppose. I can't really put myself in that position as I've been a motorsport junkie since Gilles Villeneuve did the three wheel trick at Zandvoort.

Sundays are good. No KY3(R)? Booo!

Some decent drivers signed up. Rather than gimmicks they should put more energy management into the hands of the drivers and make sure all the information is displayed on an app so the fans could see Senna 5 seconds ahead of Heidfeld but also that he's used however many Kj more etc etc.

I wouldn't say dumb (I have both kept it and returned it on different occasions), but a lot of people if they have the opportunity will look after themselves above others. It's the same with the establishment, except they play for higher stakes. It's not really a conversation about the morality of keeping overchange, unless Racer X can prove the CIA did it in the 1960s and that caused the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

Why dont you get a god damn ****ing twitter or a blog so that way the other lunatics like you can read it and the rest of us don't have to absorb your stupidity.

Or don't keep reading the thread?

I read most of it and my conclusion is invariably "So what?" Racer X makes his pithy "sunshine and lollipops" comments referencing every other member of the human race who he thinks live oblivious to the world going on around them, out of sight. I think the naive one is Racer X himself however.

I don't want a government that plays the game by the rules, only deals with nice people and doesn't have any secrets. There is no right and wrong - that is all a point of view.

Sometimes things go wrong and you end up backing freedom fighters who turn out to be terrrorists - boo hoo.

Sometimes you lie to your friends - the Lusitania is a great example, thanks for bringing that one up. Would I want my government to bring the US into the war? You bet. It's in my interest.

Power is all, the strongest survive, but power is a dangerous thing when attained as national interest can be subverted by personal interest. Hey ho, we all take advantage where we can - ever got too much change from a shop and not given it back?

Messi might be enough though.

Tonight's game has a lot to live up to.