Yes, that's why I said the end of next year.

Quote from BlueFlame :

There wasn't any. She failed to qualify consistently.

So they don't drive during practice or qualifying? Mug.

Women have legs, arms and eyes so of course they can race.

However, my mind is always drawn back to the 1992 F1 Season Review video, which when introducing the drivers showed a clip of Giovanna Amati touching up her lipstick in the cockpit. Of course, that probably says more about the editor of the review although to be fair they didn't get much footage of her driving that year.

They obviously liked what they saw in the Young Driver Test, but Vergne will be gone by the end of next year so presumably that will promote Sainz Jr. That would be a very inexperienced line up and I wonder if it might have been better to put Da Costa in now and then put Kvyat in the following year after a season in GP2. Da Costa hasn't had a stellar year, but form is temporary.

Quote from CSF :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fn4IMnJlAc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEBExK9UMz0

Same sort of thing, but on the run from a cross...

And he was 15 at the time. Watch out for him in a year or two.

Quote from Whiskey :

Sadly but true, money pressure leading to a half (or is it almost) finished physics after this huge wait is not a bad thing for the community at all. I just hope that they are good enough to not be in the To-Do list for a few years so LFS can improve on other areas.

I'm still waiting for brake temps and other things that I think are easy to implement.

I would not say "sadly". Part of the human condition (it is certainly part of mine) is that deadlines are a great motivation to complete. "It's done when it's done" didn't do Duke Nukem any good, did it?

I doubt that the dev team would rush out any old rubbish safe in the knowledge that they could hoover up 3-5,000 S3 payments in a weekend. I think they have too much pride in their project for that.

Good news (for us) that the money is drying up!

It's not really about labelling bikers as one thing and Range Rover drivers as another. It's the pack mentality multiplying their idiocy. Could have easily been a group of teenagers picking on a family in a street.

As for no helmets, that's not the brightest thing to make a stand on for the principle of freedom, but it's more kidneys and livers for the rest of us.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Webber just can't cope with the blown diffuser driving style. Get rid of them and he'd be much closer. Not that anyone could match what Vettel is doing at the moment.

Other way around.

In 2010, Webber got the upper hand on Vettel when the diffuser was blown, but there was no "cold" blowing. Then Renault changed their engine maps (after Vettel was taken to the cleaners in Monaco) and cold blowing neutralised his advantage letting Vettel marginally back in front. In three consecutive races near the end of the season Vettel was pole and Webber was 2nd but the total difference in their qualifying times was about a tenth of a second. Remember, it was still difficult to overtake in 2010. That's where the title went, not in the wall in Korea.

These days, the tyres are bigger factor. They suit Vettel's style more than Webber's. If we still had Bridgestones it could have been two titles each by now.

I haven't seen the video, but sounds like one driver was driving like they don't pay for it. I guess that is what they were counting on - you thinking "I can't afford to pay for this" and backing out.

Quote from Hyperactive :

Well I don't really see how "falling off boats drunk" would make the car slower.

In F1 there is perception of reality and then there is the reality. I doubt the two have so much in common. Just because a driver doesn't make a big number of himself and what he does doesn't make him less good.

Maybe Alonso needs to try a new approach with ferrari since his "not falling off boats drunk" approach clearly doesn't work?

No; the point I make there is that Kimi is well liked because he does things off track that make seem likeable. When you like someone or something you develop a natural bias so the perception of reality is that Kimi is some kind of super hero driver when he's actually Nick Heidfeld.

Kimi will get blown away if he joins Alonso at Ferrari. Falling off boats drunk may be sufficient to make everyone apparently love him, but it doesn't make the car go quicker and if I had to pick a driver that Kimi was most similar to then it would be Nick Heidfeld, albeit Kimi's a smidgen faster.

Quote from amp88 :

Just back from having watched the race at the McLaren Technology Centre. My brother won 2 tickets as part of the Vodafone VIP competition.

The prize included a factory tour, including the 'Boulevard' (a foyer containing a number of important cars in McLaren's history - F1 cars from several decades, the Le Mans-winning F1 GTR from 1995, an F1 LM, a Can-Am car driven by Hulme and Bruce McLaren's Austin 7 and some other gems), the wind tunnel (complete with a 2008-spec 60% scale model on display), the 'mission control' area, from which engineers and strategists watch the race, the trophy cabinets and the race preparation bays.

In the race bays we got to take part in a 'pit stop challenge' where we had to change the wheels as quickly as possible. I wanted to try using the wheelgun, but it was incredibly difficult to get the timing right. After ending up with metal filings all over my gloves from a few badly timed moves I changed to be the person putting the new tyre on. That was a lot easier and we did OK, but our group on the tour sadly finished the competition in 3rd place...of 3 teams. Another treat in the race bays was that one of Perez's race cars from this season was sitting on high stands and being stripped. It's one thing to look at pictures and technical drawings but it's quite another to see the real thing up close and be able to smell the car too.

We were allowed to look wherever we wanted (within the scope of the tour of course, we didn't have an 'access all areas' pass), so I spent a lot of the time taking close-up looks of the cars, including time on the ground looking at the floors/diffusers of a few models.

The race itself was pretty decent too, but this will certainly be a day I remember for a long time because of the tour and the location.

Sounds like a great day out. Did you manage to liberate any unofficial souvenirs?

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I might be free tomorrow. What's the minimum I need to do to sign up, just in case?

Quote from tristancliffe :

I hate this "4 wheels off rule". It's taken too literally, and is difficult to police as not every incident is seen or punished.

Stick the grass and gravel near the track so the quickest way is to stay on the circuit. Currently the quickest way to race is to go off as much as possible. That's wrong.

I don't give a shit if its more dangerous. I'd rather see some injuries and fatalities than mindless zooming around on Tarmac runoffs waiting for pedants to find screen grabs of unpunished "4 wheels off" moments.

Moronic fans are killing F1.

Agree 100%. I recall Martin Brundle running wide at turn 4 in 1996 and ripping all 4 wheels off the car because there was quite a rough / ploughed gravel trap. That might be going a smidge too far and it's not too good for the show to have cars beached in gravel traps - these days that would probably cause a safety car. However, it should not be the case that you can gain time by leaving the track.

Grass is good - can't generally go faster on grass. Would leave cars needing a ticket to get back into the track if it's raining but hey-ho, can't have everything.

Vettel would not mind Kimi at Red Bull as Kimi is not that fast; people subliminally take a few tenths off his lap time because he falls over when he's drunk and says funny things on the radio.

Totally agree Deko. League racing shouldn't be dependent on content. A football field hasn't changed in over 100 years, but the sport is very much alive. Similarly, a pack of playing cards is the same as it ever was, but poker continues to grow in popularity.

When I raced, I used to treat LFS as a sport, something that I could do to satisfy a competitive urge. When I retired, I did so because I had proven to myself what I wanted to and had nothing left to fight for. Nothing to do with content.

League admins do an awful of work to make races happen. I can imagine it is thoroughly disheartening to see a massive signup list turn into half a dozen entries by race three. League racers only have to do one thing to repay the effort the organisers make:

Sign up -> Turn up!

Plural depends on the derivation. If it is Latin then it is Lotii, however if it is Greek then it is Lotuses.

Both languages have the word Lotos, but the most common derivation would be the Lotus plant in Greek mythology, which made you wasted.

Winning my first proper league race, in OWRL, in 2007. Fist pumping going over the line at KY3 . I had a run of something like 6 consecutive 2nd places prior and I remember getting wound up about that.

Prefer my own car, which is a bit of a sad state of affairs for F1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIq-QL69xqU

But then I guess that this is the way of the world these days. Downsized turbos are taking over the world - listening to the new M5 v the old M5 is a similar story. We should see some interesting developments in turbo technology, not aurally though.

We'll get used to it very quickly though. Don't recall watching F1 in the early 80s thinking it sounded shit. Remember how mentally ridiculous the cars looked in 2009 with the new rear wings and massive front wings? Things have slimmed down a smidge at the front I think but it's normal now, if not as good as the old days.

I think they would get a worse penalty as the element of doubt and confusion is gone.

Not sure about Christmas Dinner's analysis there. Not much of a strain on the driver trying to push the throttle through the bulkhead on the straights. It's also hardly Bahrain or Malaysia in terms of temperature.

The divebomb at that corner can be a great tactic as you don't really need to overtake in order to overtake. Just get alongside and the other guy has to bug out across the kerb and then he lets you past. His only alternative is to close the door which makes for a big risk.

I wonder if there is a way to reprofile the corner to allow a bit more room. Or go back to the pif-paf of the good old days - impossible to overtake so no more issues!