I think I wrote off this technology too soon. Last weekend I saw an Imax movie in 3D and it was simply amazing. The glasses only made the view slightly darker but you really only notice it when you first put them on.
I've never used it but my guess is raptor's comments are probably spot on. It's one of those devices that sound really cool in theory but when you finally use it it's not exactly what you expected it to be, it's too annoying to setup, and instead it winds up collecting dust in your basement.
Triple monitors is probably a safe bet if you want more immersion (and you have a decent PC already). If you invest money into it and you stop playing LFS completely atleast the monitors won't go to waste.
If you're seeking something more immersive, you might be interested in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3yzzIDeYk
Triple monitors is probably a safe bet if you want more immersion (and you have a decent PC already). If you invest money into it and you stop playing LFS completely atleast the monitors won't go to waste.
If you're seeking something more immersive, you might be interested in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3yzzIDeYk
Even though x-ter said it a million times, I didn't realize you can join as a guest for free 
In this case I will check it out.
In this case I will check it out.My previous post probably sounded pretty critical. I would consider paying for this type of service at their basic membership price (or lower... $50-70 USD/year seems reasonable to me). The main thing that I did not like was their membership structure. The items they list as "premium" options like being able to store setups privately, take screenshots, or change my car skin do not sit right with me - especially when it raises the price to the level of iRacing which includes the most realistic sim on the market. Also, I believe iRacing gives you ~$70 dollars towards iRacing content when you purchase/renew a yearly subscription.
Just to clarify - iRacing doesn't charge a monthly fee for extra content. You only have to pay for extra content once - when you purchase it.
>> there is no need to pay for anything on R2P.
So does my R2P membership include LFS, rFactor, GTR Evolution, STCC - The Game, Race 07, and Turismo Carretera or do I have to pay for this extra content?
I personally would rather shell out $25 for the highest quality track available in any sim than buy yet another racing game with unnatural physics
>> there is no need to pay for anything on R2P.
So does my R2P membership include LFS, rFactor, GTR Evolution, STCC - The Game, Race 07, and Turismo Carretera or do I have to pay for this extra content?
I personally would rather shell out $25 for the highest quality track available in any sim than buy yet another racing game with unnatural physics
I'm not going to be as nice as the above comments 
I took a serious look at the race2play website for the first time tonight since I just got back into simracing after a long hiatus. To be perfectly honest, I simply don't understand why anyone would ever sign up. I don't know what the history is between LFS and r2p and I don't really care. All I know is that I find the membership options are almost insulting. Their $125 year plan and $170 year plans include the following:
Sign up for races 21/28 days in advance
Custom cars and paint schemes
Additional screenshots/Maximum screenshots
Form a race team/Form unlimited race teams
Join unlimited race teams
Private setup storage and postrace notes
Enhanced personal stats
Merit badges
Create your own Group forum
Customize homepages
Exclusive prerelease mods and addons
Come on lets get real - these aren't features. To use r2p you need a computer with an internet connection. A computer has a hard drive - a device capable of storing billions of LFS setups, millions of screenshots (and even better - replays!). Via this crazy technology called the internet, you can easily meet other racers and form an unlimited number of race teams. Windows comes with this very simple program called "Paint" which enables you to create an unlimited amount of merit badges. Another classic program is Notepad, which allows you write billions of postrace notes. If I wasn't so turned off by the marketing, I think I'd give it a shot since I like the fact that it caters to americans and they have an association with NASA. Maybe I'll still give their free trial a shot, and post my thoughts here...
But at $170/year, I'm sorry, you have to be compared to iRacing which offers a similar service. I would not pay $170 a year for the iRacing service alone. My interest is in the simulation - iRacing is the best simulator available and it arguably justifies the cost. In fact, the main thing I don't like about iRacing is the seriousness of it all (and the lack of freedom) which is what r2p's main goal is.
I took a serious look at the race2play website for the first time tonight since I just got back into simracing after a long hiatus. To be perfectly honest, I simply don't understand why anyone would ever sign up. I don't know what the history is between LFS and r2p and I don't really care. All I know is that I find the membership options are almost insulting. Their $125 year plan and $170 year plans include the following:Sign up for races 21/28 days in advance
Custom cars and paint schemes
Additional screenshots/Maximum screenshots
Form a race team/Form unlimited race teams
Join unlimited race teams
Private setup storage and postrace notes
Enhanced personal stats
Merit badges
Create your own Group forum
Customize homepages
Exclusive prerelease mods and addons
Come on lets get real - these aren't features. To use r2p you need a computer with an internet connection. A computer has a hard drive - a device capable of storing billions of LFS setups, millions of screenshots (and even better - replays!). Via this crazy technology called the internet, you can easily meet other racers and form an unlimited number of race teams. Windows comes with this very simple program called "Paint" which enables you to create an unlimited amount of merit badges. Another classic program is Notepad, which allows you write billions of postrace notes. If I wasn't so turned off by the marketing, I think I'd give it a shot since I like the fact that it caters to americans and they have an association with NASA. Maybe I'll still give their free trial a shot, and post my thoughts here...
But at $170/year, I'm sorry, you have to be compared to iRacing which offers a similar service. I would not pay $170 a year for the iRacing service alone. My interest is in the simulation - iRacing is the best simulator available and it arguably justifies the cost. In fact, the main thing I don't like about iRacing is the seriousness of it all (and the lack of freedom) which is what r2p's main goal is.
How are the fun races going?
I made a real big mistake of entering an advanced solstice race last Friday on a track layout I've never run before (jefferson (?) @ summit). I was fine following the main pack around until they started leaving me in the dust. Then, I didn't remember braking points, turn in points, etc. I went off track several times and almost took out Dale Jr and the other leaders as they came around to lap me! I quit out of the race before I caused any wrecks thank god. I wonder if my safety rating dropped from 3.7x to below 3 after that race and I wasn't promoted to class D!? I haven't played since then due to all the craziness in my life over the last few days....!
I made a real big mistake of entering an advanced solstice race last Friday on a track layout I've never run before (jefferson (?) @ summit). I was fine following the main pack around until they started leaving me in the dust. Then, I didn't remember braking points, turn in points, etc. I went off track several times and almost took out Dale Jr and the other leaders as they came around to lap me! I quit out of the race before I caused any wrecks thank god. I wonder if my safety rating dropped from 3.7x to below 3 after that race and I wasn't promoted to class D!? I haven't played since then due to all the craziness in my life over the last few days....!
That is quite possibly the most bizarre thing I've ever seen! I'm guessing you're old enough to drive... do you find it uncomfortable to operate your car using the pedals?
It might be something that you can market to disabled people.... I guess.. (?)
Back in the early days of the internet I used to play an online shooter. The goal was to shoot the other players by left-clicking rapidly with the mouse. Once the fancier mice starting coming out, some people found out they can setup a macro to fire 4-5 shots with a single click. It's not humanly possible to left click as fast as the macro can programatically click. Try it now, see how fast you can click 4 to 5 times. So it's basically a very similar issue to LFS's button clutch. The developers of that game basically modified the software to only allow a click every X milliseconds.
If the LFS devs were to take action on this issue, I would imagine they would do something similar - restricting button clutch so that it can only shift as fast as a human can shift.
If the LFS devs were to take action on this issue, I would imagine they would do something similar - restricting button clutch so that it can only shift as fast as a human can shift.
Willem, I suggest setting up the wheel properly for maximum realism. The wheel's rotation should match the cars exactly. Some people use less degrees of rotation, which is unrealistic, but may make the car easier to control if you spend most of your time sideways.
Attached is my recommended setup for road cars (XRG, XFG, LX cars, RAC, etc) which have 720 degrees in the game.
I'm not sure what the difference is between the wingman app and the logitech profiler, but since the logitech profiler came with the wheel that's what I suggest using. You should also change your settings in LFS so the degrees of rotation for the wheel matches the car. I believe you can change this either in the options menu or in the garage - I usually just make sure it's what I want in both screens.
For the GT and formula cars, you should change both the profiler settings and game settings to match the lower degrees of rotation of those vehicles.
I always launch LFS using the profiler and I keep my global profile settings at 900 degrees for iRacing.
Attached is my recommended setup for road cars (XRG, XFG, LX cars, RAC, etc) which have 720 degrees in the game.
I'm not sure what the difference is between the wingman app and the logitech profiler, but since the logitech profiler came with the wheel that's what I suggest using. You should also change your settings in LFS so the degrees of rotation for the wheel matches the car. I believe you can change this either in the options menu or in the garage - I usually just make sure it's what I want in both screens.
For the GT and formula cars, you should change both the profiler settings and game settings to match the lower degrees of rotation of those vehicles.
I always launch LFS using the profiler and I keep my global profile settings at 900 degrees for iRacing.
damn, even the farming simulator has weather effects!
Leagues don't allow h-shifters/analog clutches? Isn't this a racing "simulator"? What leagues don't allow this so I know which ones to avoid?
Where can I find the "Execute perfect shift" option in the LFS menus?
thx.
Damn was that in the rookie solstice? I finally broke into the 1:48's last night with a 1:48.81 and I see where I can gain time, but almost a full second... I'm not so sure
Anyone else in the 1am race @ laguna seca? That was pretty intense. I was grouped with some pretty good drivers - avg 2203. Started 10th and moved up to 6th by lap 3 right behind TJ Majors who had the highest iRating in the field. I was charging him pretty hard with a few pass attempts through 4 and 5. Finally T6 I had my nose in but lifted and let him take it and I hit that damn bump right at the apex which sent me into a spin coming to a stop on the inside of the track - amazingly 0 incident points. I was passed by several cars and went back to 9th place. I moved up to 6th place again 3 laps later and then spun again in T6! argh! I hate that turn. After that it was over for me. My G25 motors started burning real bad and my speakers started emitting a high pitched sound in 5.1 surround sound that nearly made me deaf. Turning down the volume didnt affect it nor did turning them off and on so I had to drive the rest of the race without sound.. ugh. What a race though. My days of going off track and still getting top 5's are coming to an end!
I'm not an track designer nor do I know all the various types of turns, but I'd imagine a circuit designed to work in both directions can simply never be as good as one designed to only go in one direction.
I read that also. It's a fantastic sim, but the game as a whole still feels very incomplete. LFS even in its S2 form is much more polished.
Don't worry man I have exactly the same problem. My fastest lap thus far is 1:49.017. The left turn after the corkscrew I'm definitely really inconsistent with my line. When I hit it right and am basically full throttle it's damn scary and I'm afraid of having too much speed and spinning out (especially if my right tires hit that curb on the right).
But I also have problems with consistency through turns 3 and 5. I basically drift around T3 and T5 every lap. I simply don't feel like I'm taking those turns correctly. But for me, right now, getting the car sideways is what's working for me and letting me run low 1:49's - at least last week anyway...
But I also have problems with consistency through turns 3 and 5. I basically drift around T3 and T5 every lap. I simply don't feel like I'm taking those turns correctly. But for me, right now, getting the car sideways is what's working for me and letting me run low 1:49's - at least last week anyway...
Try doing a clean install. Download the entire full version of LFS (not the patch) and install it to a new directory.
Nice spanks You add friends in the myRacing -> myRacers section. Not exactly sure how you use the studied driver junk.
The damage is really bizarre. I spun in T6 at laguna and some unfortunate driver t-boned me. Amazingly, I had absolutely no damage and went on to set the fastest lap of the race. Yet, if you drive into the back of someone at 10mph at the start your car will be totaled... In that same race there was some really odd warping going on with one driver. I've seen cars disappear and reappear fairly often, but nothing like this. His car looked like it was on hydraulics. The front end was bouncing 10 feet off the ground every couple of seconds. It was quite amusing but really distracting
You add friends in the myRacing -> myRacers section. Not exactly sure how you use the studied driver junk.The damage is really bizarre. I spun in T6 at laguna and some unfortunate driver t-boned me. Amazingly, I had absolutely no damage and went on to set the fastest lap of the race. Yet, if you drive into the back of someone at 10mph at the start your car will be totaled... In that same race there was some really odd warping going on with one driver. I've seen cars disappear and reappear fairly often, but nothing like this. His car looked like it was on hydraulics. The front end was bouncing 10 feet off the ground every couple of seconds. It was quite amusing but really distracting
I think the friend system actually screws up the match making system. Let's take jonsey for example. His irating is MUCH higher than mine. If the friends system pairs us up together, I will wind up hurting his series points. It will either grid me with his field (with high skill ratings) or he'd get put with us slow drivers. Either way, if I get put in the field with the higher skilled guys I'll bring down the average irating and thus the number of points the race winner can earn is lower. If he gets put with the slow drivers and wins by a large margin he'll still only earn minor points. Since the weekly points are averaged he's screwed either way! That's my theory anyway
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Yeah I drove my first advanced solstice race today. I had never driven a lap in the advanced solstice and it was my first time at summit pt. I'm not sure what I was thinking but I joined the race 2 minutes before it was about to start. I did 1 test lap then had to join the server. I started 5th and was a bit worried with my complete lack of practice. I moved up to 3rd after the first turn. Two turns later, the leaders went off track followed by the guy behind me. Maybe they thought it was a rally stage!?
I was surprised to cruise to an easy win with 0 incident points... It's a really fun track. I'm thinking of doing my first track day at Summit Point. It's ~5 hours away but I have some people I can stay with in Virginia. It would be interesting to see how I adapt from the sim world to the track.. only 25? ah crap. I had to close the browser at level 24 because I got a phone call
damn, im jealous We should have an Northeast track day for LFS'ers. I'm like 10 minutes from Jersey. (As long as it's cars and you guys don't wreck my daily driver in T1)
We should have an Northeast track day for LFS'ers. I'm like 10 minutes from Jersey. (As long as it's cars and you guys don't wreck my daily driver in T1) Lynce,
I noticed a repeated problem throughout the site. You use large high quality images but you use CSS to resize them to fit your website. This has three negative effects.
* It takes longer for the pages to load.
* It uses more bandwidth
* And the worst problem, the browsers do a really bad job of resizing images (quality-wise).
You should resize them in Photoshop or whatever your tool of choice is instead of relying on the browser to scale them.
Edit...
Just so you have an idea what I mean. I took a screenshot of what I see in my browser:
novitec_browser_scaled.jpg (remember this is actually 226.2KB since it's the same image as the original)
Novitech_photoshop.jpg (the 226.2KB original file resized in photoshop -> 33.3KB)
Perfromanc Novitec banner.jpg (original)
I noticed a repeated problem throughout the site. You use large high quality images but you use CSS to resize them to fit your website. This has three negative effects.
* It takes longer for the pages to load.
* It uses more bandwidth
* And the worst problem, the browsers do a really bad job of resizing images (quality-wise).
You should resize them in Photoshop or whatever your tool of choice is instead of relying on the browser to scale them.
Edit...
Just so you have an idea what I mean. I took a screenshot of what I see in my browser:
novitec_browser_scaled.jpg (remember this is actually 226.2KB since it's the same image as the original)
Novitech_photoshop.jpg (the 226.2KB original file resized in photoshop -> 33.3KB)
Perfromanc Novitec banner.jpg (original)
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