Quote from sam1600 :

Forget about practicing your driving.

Most (all?) of the fast guys cheat.

You should practice your hex-editing skills instead. That's the only way to be fast.

hahahaha, NO

The number of daily users online increased since S1 release by about 300% If people remember the first year of S1 and the max. users online. To nowadays numbers. Physics update next and S2 final, and then it goes on and on. The community is way more stable than any comparable in the web. Maybe WC3 and CS are on the same level, in terms of continuus players.

I vote for the little FWD cars, because it's a matter of watching: If you are in the race, and you run up to a GT2 car (when you are GT1, or vice versa), you simply cant see, if the car is in your class or not, if they are only restricted ones. The small GTRs you can see, and know, what's coming.

Quote from DeXteRrBDN :

ok, maybe 40% is a bit too much, this should not be the normal case, but the last races where in fernbay, blackwood and southcity

Again, the tracks are not an excuse. If you drive e.g. Fern Bay with the small GTRs, it is well known, that you can easily flip on the curbs.

First of all: LFS-physics-Engine problem, but:

It is well known, so FFS avoid the curbs. It's so damn easy. Sure, you arent pulling the WR time then, but you finish, and the WR-guy might prolly not. So who wins the race then?

it's not a bug, it's a feature

Kashopi, simple question: Why are in the german EAS (with about 100) drivers including EPS), always more than 80% of the drivers finishing? And if you read my post right, you should see, that I second the point about that there should be work done on this issue, BUT it is well known, and if you behave as drivers, this wont happen! That's where I refer to mathematics. If 60% of your drivers cant keep the car on the wheels for a race, they should think about some of the basic laws of racing: To finish first, you first have to finish.

I second Becckys thoughts on the capability of your racers. Sorry, but then 60% of your racers arent capable of racing clean and safe. Sounds harsh, but maths have spoken. German communities leagues dont have a prob with that and enjoy the possibility of this feature. Sure, now one or two guys have to end races due to lying on the roof, but we usually DONT have the car2airplane problem, cause the drivers know how to behave.

Sure, collision detection isnt perfect, and should be worked on more, but the fact that people KNOW this prob for a long time, should give them the sensibility to handle it and behave in the right way.

there you guys have it (again). If LFS would be put to Mac, it would need double work every patch. And therefor it's just not usefull. And additionally you can put bootcamp and run LFS there. Better controller support included....

scawen, is the mpr header changer affecting the structure of the header heavily? So a Parser e.g. would get problems now (again)? Or is it done this way, that this is additional information?

spread the word!

Yes, Game TV will broadcast the 7th run of the second ESCC season LIVE and FREE for all on his webstream on June 20th from 18 UTC on.

Wonder what the ESCC is? Well, there you have the best of the European drivers in one grid, nothing more to add!

So be sure, to tune in!

All about the ESCC you find on the ESCC homepage of ESL:

http://www.esl.eu/eu/lfs/escc/season2/

And in the news to that stream:

http://www.esl.eu/eu/lfs/escc/season2/news/40090/

Link below works only during the stream
LIVE stream (wed, 18 UTC)

some news also on sk-gaming.com.
And I'll be updating my blog in the next view hours with some "inside" infos

Final Standings

So Nils adds another 600,- euros to his won prize money.

Race Results and Replays

Team SK-Gaming would like to participate:

- Team Name: SK Gaming
http://www.sk-gaming.com

- Team Manager: SK|Vykos

- Team history - League results

Moe1: 2nd and 6th, MoE2: 3rd
ESL: several EPS league championships
3times dutch driver champion, dutch team champions
founded as ACR in 2003, then ocrana now SK Gaming


- Number of drivers 8

- List of drivers:
SK|n1lyn
SK|Husky
SK|Vince
SK|DasBoeseC
SK|kraniwani
SK|Jeronimo
SK|RudiTurbo
SK|Nukelane

logo and render tbd

Last edited by Vykos69, Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:47. Reason : images added

first races were BF1 on Westhill, 28 laps each. Tomorrow it will be GTR on Kyo nat rev. Replays will be available asap ESL page works

This weekend the ten best drivers of the LFS EPS will fight in Cologne, Germany for the win of the 8th LFS ESL Pro Series. Yes, since 4 years LFS is part of the biggest eSports league in Europe, with 28 races every year and 2 LAN-finals. It's a tradition by now, to meet up in cologne twice a year, watch some great racing by the best german racers and enjoy the community with some nice party.
After this season, intel will have given away about 40000,- Euros in prize money to the winners throughout the years.
The most wins in a season, and the most championships are won by Nils "SK|n1lyn" Naujoks so far, and he's attempting the next one.

The LFS EPS is only the top of the ESL leagues. To get in there, you need to survive a season in the ESL Amateur series, which is not the easiest, to beat about 80-100 other racer.

With more than 100 races done, consistently since 4 years, the ESL Pro Series is probably the league with the most races done in a league so far since LFS S1 came to life. A lot of races been broadcasted LIVE on TV and webstream, every Replay is available still, LFS careers were born, raised and finished in it already

If you are interested, you can find a lot of infos here:

http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/epsfinals10

And I will do the coverage on our page with all the infos you need to know, all results etc.:

http://www.sk-gaming.com/feature/823/10/

If you got the guts, you'll come to Cologne tomorrow anyway See you there!

DFP is better than Momo: more turning degrees, more buttons, metal and ballbearing for the shaft instead of plastic at the momo racing etc etc.

offtopic pls

But this posting behaviour suits your online driving style.

Simple equation: Mac Users wanting to play LFS <<<<<<<<<<<<< worktime needed to do that now and keep up to date due to the continuos changes in LFS code.

I bet, if you come around with 10000 Mac Users licenses, the devs might consider it.

Quote from SparkyDave :

Dont say that Dan you can do it

The ESL used to be good, but went downhill rapidly, If you won a prize, theres no guarantee youll ever get it :|

maybe its under better management now but Ill never know.


SD.

Thx for the good investigations you took . ESCC != ESL UK. There might have been problems in the UK, I dont know. But all I can say is, that in the german based organized first ESCC and now in this too, there wont be problems about delivering the small prizes. As in the ESL Pro Series the money was given away every season regularly. And this for the 7th time up till now with the end of the 8th LFS season coming this weekend. So danowat, be asured, if you win one of the prizes, you'll get them

yap Toad. Most of the guys who moan about getting shot, are at least partly guilty of the crashes too. Because there is more to it, then just luck, that I survive t1 most of the time

Quote from joen :

I haven´t seen ayone object to real tracks. Some people just don´t think they´re essential to enjoy the sim fully. So they would welcome them if they would get them, but if they don´t it´s fine as well.

+1

As long as LFS hasnt reached the numbers of GPL, there is a continuos potential of buyers every day. So just dont care, that'll be enough people in the world to feed all of them and their families for quite a long time

Quote from FlintFredstone :

The only thing i can see as usefull would be to sponsor a real racer who could give real feedback to the physics/wear/breakages simulation. This however would cost money, i dont think LFS generates enough income atm for that, im thinking of people like mike jordan/james kay etc.

There are real racers in the beta-test team and other real racers playing LFS are often asked for their opinion and informations.

Quote from Dupson :

Yes , I have to agree with you guys , the slope I have written is about 10 degree and car slows down when on it to 90 - 95 kmh. So i was wrong there

I even doubt it's 10°. It seems like you have no idea, when you talk about geometrics... 10° is still 15%, meaning 15 meters drop on a way of 100 meters. I wanna see pics of the road that drops that steep and where you go 100km/h that easy. And I promise you, that on such a road, a car does not loose speed in that region of about 100km/h. It'll accelerate.

I just want to give you an idea on what you see and think you experience.