Quote from Speed Soro :

Please community, stop cheating you don't mind about concurrency. Stop cheating you don't mind about graphics, about sound and about other stuffs that yes, make difference.

hahahahaha, guess what, a lot in the community, if not all say, that sound e.g. in LFS is not good YET, but they know someday it'll kick ass

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And mainly, devs, stop cheating you don't mind about market, cause you need to eat, and you need money like we all need, and if you have no money, you will be obligate to find jobs, and LFS will be delegated to a second plane for sure...

Just go read in RSC and several old posts, where scawen said: "thanks to the licenses sold the FULL development of LFS is save."

Bet get your homework (=read, read and read) done, b4 assuming, you are posting nu shit here. It's one of the oldest topics and it was cleared up several times b4.

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We are not here to offend you, we are not here to rule your work, I repeat.

rofl, better read your own post once again.

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When you say that is the "way you choose to develop the game", my doubt is if it's about the final result you are looking for, the target, the great objective of your work, or if you are talkings about the not-ruled-by-the-clock you choose to work...

I thought you dont want to rule him? Step back, go buy rfactor or nkpro, enjoy it for the time being. You'll be back to LFS anyway sooner or later. Just stop that shittie "I demand, you dev. faster, cause I know you wanna sell more etc." It's bullshit, it doesnt work, and if I say THAT, you better believe. Dont wanna sound arrogant, but besides some others I prolly have some experience in especially that topic with the devs.

Quote from Falkowski83 :

But hey, keep playing. I know I'll receive a physics update. I just don't know when. And I know I have the RIGHT to DEMAND updates, because I PAID for a PRODUCT.

And here you are completely wrong, but damn, I'm a n00b, scawen has beaten me once more... Damn slowpoke I am. As I said already to other guy, you just dont understand the LFS way, so go play any other game, until you get back to LFS. That's how the Devs actually also like it. If there is some better game, go out and PLAY it for gods sake. The day, you'll receive the newsletter from liveforspeed.net or get info from any gaming forum, you'll download the patch or the new full version anyway, unlock it with your still working unlock password and have a go at it. I simply know, you'll do that. So it doesnt matter if there comes out a sim from EA every year, where you pay 50 bucks each time for updates, or you download the free updates for LFS once in a while. I'd choose the LFS way always, but that's just me then

Quote from Speed Soro :

You are not understand me...illepall

The problem is not LFS, but the concurrency...

Scawen, you don't know me as much I know you. You have no idea how I love your work, how I propagate your work, how I defend your work.

I'm not impatient. I'm just saying to you: the market is waking up.

I have my own bussines here. For sometimes I decided to work alone, and that was not a good idea.

Let the others do 90% and take care of the 10% remnant. That is the way to do things before the world ends...

And dont't tell me LFS is not a business, cause it is, ok? You sell it, don't you? And we bought it, don't we?

I'm not a business consultant, and I don't know, and have no rights to decide your business for you.

Just listen to your customers...

peace

No, you dont understand what scawen says: He doesnt care a shit for the market. Doesnt matter if there is nkpro out, if any other game might be better, he'll continue on his LFS-way. He has no need to listen to the customers, that they put pressure on him, to release anything faster. Better you try to understand the LFS-way b4 saying to anyone, that he doesnt understand you. I bet he understood you actually quite well, and he actually explain very well, WHY HE IS NOT listening to your suggestions. Let the market awake (ROFLMAO), it wont change anything on the way LFS is developed.

Quote from Speed Soro :

Scawen, Victor and Erick, (...) you could concentrate yourselves in that is most important, that is, gain market.

HAHAHAHAHA, rofl... yeah sure, cause that is what they aim at. Market. Make money. That's their main purpose of LFS.... If it was, they would have stopped development by now, cause they got some nice bunch of money through S2-licences sold. All the fuzz about nkPro (with a yet untested MP), all the ISI sh1t is fun. There were other Sims coming to market last year, and year b4 that, and in contrary to every other sim, LFS gained people. always. constant.
I do understand some of your points, and I'd vote for some additional coder maybe for GFX-engine departement, but the way you post it is kind of ridiculous, cause the Devs owe you nothing except a Full S2 Version SOME day.

Grats Nils, was fun watching it in teh crowd with my daughter

Quote from Slartibartfast :

(Blah blah no FF)1998.(blah blah no FF)

You sure know, that we have 2006, that software technology has progressed and there is for sure a reason why all the HQ-wheel manufacturers are working on FF-wheels (BRD, VPP, Force Dynamics System has FF-wheel too). Maybe you should especially in LFS give it another shot, cause this FF is not overloaded with effects, but only shows what you really get back as in your real car...

Simple thing: LFS is punk, some love it and die for it, some never understand it Nice phrase, huh?

Quote from P1lot :

These meddlers are scum of the earth!

Hmm, what's up with your teampage then, Link doesnt work in your sig there...

We had one guy filimg the Finals, here you get what he captured: http://forum.racing-challenge.org/viewtopic.php?p=564#564

move this thread to unofficial addons please.

Quote from KiDCoDEa :

lemme try and put the review more in perspective,
since most people here dont know, and obviously the reviewer wouldnt come here and brag about it, richard towler (the reviewer) is in the top3 of fast people ive raced with.

greger huttu, richardtowler and lefty are the ones that impressed me most over the years.

he recently took escors championship title, but he has way more league titles under his belt for teamredline.
ive also raced him in lfs (besides n2003 and gtp) and he was instantly fast. he also had some WRs in southcity.
i know he tested the game before writing that text.

this is not your avg stupid arcade gaming tester.

still, the text and final rate are obviously subjectable to personal opinion. being fast and experienced doesnt mean you are god, only means that you probably know what you are talking about a bit better than the next fellow.

Yeah, but it's still Rich, and he sucks anyway

The replays and skinpack of the final races are up, just check the links in the following news:

http://www.racing-challenge.org/index.php?news_id=70

Quote from inCogNito :

They just showed that you have no chance in such a field without practice. That goes for both, ESCC and RC finals. Like you said yourself in IRC some days ago vykos!

Yep, you are right. But if you want to win, you'll need practice. So it's each drivers decision, isnt it?

But I'd say we saw some really really great races with a lot of fights, some tougher than the others and I personally hope everyone enjoyed the location and the event. We're just working on the news right now

Eh Phil, wasnt meant to flame Looking forward to EPS-finals on ESL-Tv. First time, I gonna enjoy them at home on my couch

The replays, skins and some pics are up here: http://www.racing-challenge.or ... en=rc_news&news_id=70

Last edited by Vykos69, Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:08.

Replays, Pics, Results news etc. from the Racing Challenge finals will be up later today. But to put it that far: The non germans showed the EPS-Pros where their limits are

To all the participants and especially the winners of the grand offline final.

Special greetings to my buddies Ruditurbo, jeep, mac and Vince, who simply demonstrated what "fast" means

Some Flyer for the Racing Challenge LAN-final tomorrow

<- me and my favourite job

oh tristan, I'd say most of your posts are somehow on topic, but contribution means to be constructive *scnr*

thanks for clearing this up nitemare, and you are right: Yes, you should be right with your calculation then.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Niki's graph is exactly correct shape, just the numbers are meaningless.

Did nobody look at the attachment I posted? That shows estimated percentages. For those too lazy to click it:

No, it is not right, read my post again, and learn some maths

Quote from tristancliffe :

I like it as it is, although it if was made more accurate (i.e. inner middle outer section) then I wouldn't complain.

I find that with dirty tyres my corner speeds are only about 10mph slower, but as we're all competative we hate seeing any time being lost. In fact, if you have the sense to remember your tyres are dirty, you don't lose THAT much time...

If you like to stay LFS as it is, you are wrong here

Quote from Nitemare :

numbers mean percentage of licensed racers divided by percentage of world's population

And here is your problem: You dont have licensed LFS racers in every country of the world. So the license pie is not comparable to the civilisation pie of the world. You would need to only count the populations of the countries involved for the worlds-pie, so you have the same amount of "pie-pieces" in the LFS-pie and the worlds pie with the same countries on it. But e.g. China: Is there any licensed LFS racer in china? So does it count into the LFS license pie? If not, your whole world pie would change by a huuuuge amount. got the point?

Quote from [RCG]Boosted :

omfg i dont want to be new to this game when S10 comes out

Just TRY to imagine how this game would look like, if the progression continues at the same level :O It would be damn worth 120 pounds then :P

Quote from GianniC :

All ?
Like all all ?

Yes, what happens if you change speed of light in reality? Everything would be different. So all Hotlaps will be useless cause they have been done on an older physics engine. Change engine = ALL cars behave different.

Happy B-Day, Scawen! Have a good day and thank you very much

Found a good home there, niki