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wark
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@rjm of course, unless it's a feature as widely dispised as this. It would be nothing more than a nuissance to the majority of LFS users, thus it couldn't be worth it. Go download vent or roger wilco or teamspeak.
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from mxpxun :but what about enable and disable button if u dont need it disable it , if u need it than anable it and talk, or if u need , and u don't whant to hear anoyng kids that are disturbing u, than it sould be added mute button. What about that?

Then the question becomes: why implement something just so it can be disabled?
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from nfsjunkie91 :The first time I used signals to indicate how the pass hould occur, I indicated what side the faster driver should pass on. It was a reaction, and I've done it since. There's a lot of difference between driving a car on the road and driving a car on the race track, so the rules aren't always the same.

I see you just turned 16. How long you been driving?

I imagine you will soon find the real differences lie between online and offline driving; not as much road & track.

Some day you will be driving on a narrow two lane highway with no shoulder and no turnouts, and the slower car in front of you will turn his right signal on [without changing speed] as if he were going to pull over (perhaps off a cliff?) to tell you that there is no oncoming traffic and it is safe to pass. At this moment you would realise how absurd it would have seemed if he had turned his left signal on instead. You would have thought it an accident, as there is only one side to pass on, and only one meaning each signal has in the real world with real, licensed drivers, and police regulation.

It is this philosophy (real world road experience) that is brought onto the racetrack--not the unregulated whims of a teenager on a computer simulation.
wark
S2 licensed


Just use your dang fingers!
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from thisnameistaken :But no pits.

Sprint?

Quote from Bob Smith :But now isn't that just similar to Gold? And please, no more tracks called National. Fern Bay Orange or something.

All the colors in the jamaican flag have been used already

I agree about the similarity issues, though... there have to be at least two real differences--nevertheless, it'd be fun for a change/while.
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Shotglass :isnt the latest suzuki pikes peak record setter technically an suv ?



Er. That better not be what you were talking about.
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from ATHome :Why in earth do you want some pile of metal that doesn't have a fast accerlation, doesn't drive very fast, corners like a pile of shit and has offroad abilities a panda 4x4 could beat ?

That's what I wonder IRL. They think they're safe, but they're the least safe kind of car on the road (statistically, and if you ask me, obviously)! Putting hazards aside, they don't tow better than trucks (and that's ALL trucks are good for), and they don't carry people or stuff better than vans or wagons.

If someone is aware of a use (utility... the irony) for these things that another car can't satisfy as well or better, let me know!

Quote from simscube :you know, the only way I see an SUV any good in LFS was if they introduced a new off road track that was quite extream (large bumps, hills, climbs) which I would actually like, for some more technical driving

Nope, not quite...
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Bean0 :I'd just be happy with being able to adjust the in-game master volume with a couple of keys...saves buggering round with the menu which isn't really doable mid-race.

Speaker/amplifier volume knob out of reach?
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Not Sure :this can be achieved with logitech profiler

Then it should be achieved with LFS!
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from mikey_G :I've read in a few racing books

ORLY :rolleyes:
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from mxpxun :and LFS needs Lamborgini

Like these?





Kidding. -1 (FZ5 is more than enough of a whale for me).
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from mrodgers :Not always. A while back there was a large discussion on what using an indicator meant on the track. I'd say it was split ~50/50 on whether it was the same as on road, or opposite where you are indicating to the other driver which side to pass on.

Flummery! In all nations the signals signal where you are going to move. Whoever learned otherwise was gravely misinformed.
wark
S2 licensed
HANS device, too. Set a good example for the kids. =P
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from mikey_G :mostly they are meant as a point-by, like in pass me on this side

btw, can you backup your claim?

You use the signal to tell the guy behind you to pass on the OPPOSITE side (they always point to where you're going to go yourself).

You can see this in a lot of Nordschleife videos on YouTube. I've never seen them used in an actual race, but that's probably because the only races I watch with different classes on the track at the same time are Le Mans series.

Signals can be really useful in LFS. (If bound to the mouse or wheel...)

As per the OP: -1, but I'd like to be able to press the same signal button again to turn it back off, à la push-push. (instead of using an extra off button).
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from wheel4hummer :Just like I said:

Once the torque is greater then the friction keeping the brakes locked, the car moves forward, and LFS disenguages the handbrake. But, the handbrake force was greater then the torque output, so the car didn't move. That is the only relation between the torque of the engine and when the handbrake disenguages.

Point 1: The force doesn't need to be greater than the friction keeping the brakes locked to make LFS disengage the handbrake (this is easily proved by trying to accelerate from 1000 RPM with the handbrake held on manually; the car will not move, and yet the handbrake disengages with the throttle closed if the handbrake is not held manually).

Point 2: The car doesn't have to start moving before the handbrake is automatically disengaged (this can be proved by using the tallest gear possible--the car will not even budge with the handbrake off while idling).

Bear in mind that this is a bug that is only seen (by me) in the few select cars previously mentioned...

[with automatic clutch off]

Example: XFG, XRR, FXR, &c., normal first gear, parking brake on, you can even feather the throttle a little and push the car forward a tad, but the brake will still be on. This is normal.

Example: MRT, FZ5, FZR &c., gear as tall as possible, max intake restriction, < 1000 RPM... brake will not stay on. This is a bug!

Edit: This thread shoulda been locked after Highsider9's post...
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wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Qvarnis :I had the avatar before the change that demo racers can`t use them, so as far as I don`t change it, I can keep it. And I think it`s cool, takes very little space out of lfs forum capacitety anyways, one of the last of the dieing breed. =p





Yeah, I think I`ll get the S2

Not really cool cause all it says is you've had the demo without upgrading for quite some time (coming up on 2 years in fact).
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from wheel4hummer :Yes, of course it has something to do with torque. LFS just slips the clutch automatically for you. Once the torque is greater then the friction keeping the brakes locked, the car moves forward, and LFS disengauges the handbrake.

Not of course. I just took the MRT out with gearing as tall as possible, and the handbrake still disengaged--and that was below 1000 RPM with no boost and 50% air intake restriction.

I tried the same with normal gears, floored it with the handbrake on and the car wouldn't budge. Let go of the gas and then the handbrake, the handbrake disengages.

But you don't give a shit, do you?
wark
S2 licensed
Has anyone tried doing this in every car? is it just me? Maybe it has something to do with torque or gear ratios, but uh...
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from JTbo :@wark, I have stopped racing from victory or from WR very long time ago, I let those to nolifes or those that just are quick, however I doubt that amount of practise I can get there is no way to get really quick times, besides I have a job already, I drive to have some fun instead

I was kidding. I gave up myself after getting second place for the XRG at BL2 back in 2002 (right before the hotlaps were wiped for the first time).
wark
S2 licensed
Okay, I checked this out again using different cars. Turns out it didn't work for me with the FZ5, FZR, FOX, FO8, MRT, XFR, or UFR (in any gear), but with every other car, it worked. Bizarre.
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Markz :No it will stay engaged if the clutch is out..

Quote from mrodgers :I loaded up LFS to be sure before posted to argue, but indeed they are right! If you put the handbrake on while stopped in any gear, the handbrake will stay on without holding the handbrake key until you move. This is with both auto clutch and with manual clutch as I just set up for manual clutch, stopped, and since the clutch automatically disengages when stopped, the handbrake will stay on without holding the key.

Attached replay is manual clutch, I shifted to 1st and stopped with the foot brake. I put the handbrake on via keyboard and did NOT hold down the key. Handbrake stayed on until I pressed the accelerator and moved.

It didn't use to be this way in previous patches.

I can't duplicate this with manual clutch. The clutch and throttle are constantly blipping automatically at a standstill to keep from stalling. Handbrake goes off and the car will roll forward from the clutch rapidly reengaging. It's been like this for me since 2002...
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from Taavi(EST) :The handbrake stays on regardless what gear you're in, but you have to be stationary to do that. So that you have to hold the handbrake until you're stationary and then when you let go of the handbrake button it stays on until you accelerate.

If the clutch is in. This was posted before--use the search feature God gave ya! your eyes!
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from shiny_red_cobra :Not really, Tercels have very small engine bays. You can't even fit a turbo in there with the original engine!

Fast engine...

he must have meant an engine with a high redline. Bike engine?
wark
S2 licensed
Quote from KeiichiRX7 :That's still offering them a choice.

Liscence or dead dog? your choice

He said force them, not leave them no choice.

Quote from dictionary.com :to compel, constrain, or oblige (oneself or someone) to do something: to force a suspect to confess.

I hate to be anal, but you were first.

edit: what the heck is this doing in improvement suggestions?
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wark
S2 licensed
Quote from wheel4hummer :Then you misread my post...

The handbrake can stay on regardless of what gear you are in.

I didn't say the handbrake always stays on, I said it CAN stay on, which implies that UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

It can also equally not stay on regardless of what gear you are in, therefore your sentiment is pointless.
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