Quote from tristancliffe :

I said have the optimum shoft point facing upwards, not peak power

In that case, +1 for vertical... peak... optimum...... revs.

BUT OCIFFER--I WERE RUNNING AT VERTICAL PEAK OPTIMUM SPEED! :drunk:

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Quote from tristancliffe :

Not the redline, as that's a useless bit of information for a racecar driver, but to have the peak optimum revs vertically would be nice (then you don't need a shift light unless you are an absolute numpty; just change gear when the needle points upwards)

Except shifting at peak power is short-shifting. (I knew you knew)

Quote from lizardfolk :

but for those of use who live in the American continents (American, Canada, Mexico). It'd be a nice addition.

LIES! don't listen to him!

Quote from DragonCommando :

@ wark

I can almost garantee that GP1 drivers look at there speedo more often than you would belive.

My dad used to race, He told me that a digital is absolutly usless for road racing, its analog or forget it.

I bet digital speedos were pretty slow in your pappy's day. If GP1 drivers look at their speedos a lot, are you saying that makes them somehow good? Call me crazy, but I would think the ones who watched the road with confidence did better.

Quote from DragonCommando :

On a road car you might come into a corner differently (better or not) and you might want an idea of your general speed.

Meh. Only because you're used to using it as a crutch. Or you want to brag about how fast you went through some notorious twisty. You should be able to obtain a wee bit more than "an idea" by other means.

The bottom line is speedometers are read out of either fear or curiosity.

Quote from wheel4hummer :

My dad and me got pulled over for going 48mph in a 35mph zone, in the rain, without the lights on. And, the cop didn't give us a ticket!

Two words: gas chamber!

Quote from GruntOfAction :

You do notice u typed a T before the lolz thing right?

Or have u been playing LFS too much? lol.

I was trying to be witty :magnify:

Oh, yeah. To further shatter your dreams, there are way too many languages and dialects and accents to take into account. And on top of that people will be typing stuff like "tlolzpwnd u n00b."

Ah, fond memories of Turok 2. . . . But not in LFS :P

Quote from XCNuse :

screw racing lol it makes sense in everyday driving..

Well, I donno about Georgia, but in California you're gonna need to know precisely how fast you're going on the freeway in the event of pig intrusion, six o'clock. Are you really gonna know whether you were going 72 or 74 at a glance with an analogue? Nopers, broseph.

(also, you'd better be prepared to know the differences between indicated speeds and real speeds at different values)

Quote from DragonCommando :

Thats why no road racing car has a digital unless you talk about those track ricers. (most of them don't even get digitals)
Just look at Nascar and GP1, neither use Digitals as standard equipment
The only reason F1 uses digital is because there is no dash, everything is on the steering wheel.

If you're familiar with the car you just need a tach. Or even just your ears. But that's on the road. The only reason you really need a speedo is the police--otherwise, who cares? On the track, average speed (lap times) are good enough. But even corner to corner, there's no way your revs won't be an accurate enough indication of speed. Remember: KMH and MPH are arbitrary! If in some sport someone really needs the exact speed for some setup optimisation or what have you, that will be readily available to him via telemetry and/or speed traps. Where that information is not available, it can't be that big of a deal.

P.S. I was not aware real F1 cars had speedometers . . . do they indeed?

My car (mini) has a HUGE analogue speedo right smack in the middle http://static.flickr.com/11/16175812_b0b856c698.jpg ...but do I use that? Nope. I turn the tiny digital speedo on under the tach! Would anyone really use an analogue speedo over a digital one in their real car (provided the digital one has a good refresh rate)?

Quote from Motordirex :

Jesus...looks like the Disney Land of motor racing!

Uh, wouldn't that be Suzuka Land?

Quote from EeekiE :

You get them everywhere. I think maybe US kids just have too much time on their hands, or can afford a decent PC too soon

Nah, there's just a lot more inbreeding over here.

Death to ovals. Death to Americans. :bananadea

There. Happy?

*ding dong* uh oh! it's the FBI! FEIND HÖRT MIT!!

Last edited by wark, Mon 26 Mar 2007, 23:05.

The problem is people will always find something to gripe about in a simulated real track. "This corner's wrong" or "there's a fence there" or "the grass is greener" or whatever. However with a fantasy one, it's always perfect. It's just way too much work. Eric could make several wonderful fantasy tracks in the time it would take him to accurately reproduce the Nürburgring (or any other real track).

Quote from TypeRCivic :

And this is a general discussion topic.....

... and just what does it have to do with LFS? :magnify:

Well, we got windshields in the formula cars (if you dare set your view to a realistic height!!), but currently you can't see skid marks or the racing "groove" through them... oh, yeah--that should be fixed too.

So long as you can turn em off. =p

Just as long as they don't end up looking like plastic or metal (like in some games)...

Real cars don't have desks with mice and keyboards on them and in the way. It's simply a hassle to swap out every time I want to run LFS.

Yeehaw. I thought these should be default! One small step for [a] man, one giant leap for a community.

Has been suggested a few times before. In fact, I first suggested this almost five years ago. Unfortunately Scawen said he's not going to add any more features for mouse/KB drivers.

He said something along the lines of those inputs being used only till a user obtains a proper wheel. I own a wheel but prefer mouse/KB.

Right. All we need is something similar to die nordschleife. Who says it can't be better? Only thing it would lack is nostalgia.