Since the introduction of mod support, running LFS via Wine seems hit-and-miss for me
In multiplayer there is likely to be more variance in which mods are loaded.
I just saw the post about the Skoda Felicia (https://x.com/LFSracing/status/1872589124714242501), decided to give it a go in Blackwood, and was rewarded with a crash :-)
It's deep within the D3D implementation though, so I don't know what is going on. Oddly seems to be in an audio processing thread so potentially it's something completely external to LFS misbehaving.
In multiplayer there is likely to be more variance in which mods are loaded.
I just saw the post about the Skoda Felicia (https://x.com/LFSracing/status/1872589124714242501), decided to give it a go in Blackwood, and was rewarded with a crash :-)
It's deep within the D3D implementation though, so I don't know what is going on. Oddly seems to be in an audio processing thread so potentially it's something completely external to LFS misbehaving.
Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000000 in 32-bit code (0x6ab29b25).
Register dump:
CS:0023 SS:002b DS:002b ES:002b FS:006b GS:0063
EIP:6ab29b25 ESP:0509f764 EBP:0509f7b8 EFLAGS:00010206( R- -- I - -P- )
EAX:00000000 EBX:1c5eb0c0 ECX:001b83f8 EDX:00000000
ESI:1e290030 EDI:00000000
Stack dump:
0x0509f764: 302377b0 0509f888 6ab2f006 00000000
0x0509f774: 1e290030 001b83f8 01411f5c 00000000
0x0509f784: 04000000 00000005 0509f7b0 0142163c
0x0509f794: 00008892 0509f7d8 7bc5c6ce 00000010
0x0509f7a4: 01421654 0509f7e8 1c5eb0c0 0509f888
0x0509f7b4: 302377b0 0509f7d8 6ab30a42 00000000
Backtrace:
=>0 0x6ab29b25 in ucrtbase (+0x69b25) (0x0509f7b8)
1 0x6ab2f006 memmove+0x106(dst=0x000000000, src=1E290030, n=0x1b83f8) [C:\LFS\dlls\msvcrt\string.c:3154] in ucrtbase (0x0509f7b8)
2 0x6ab30a42 memcpy+0x22(dst=0x000000000, src=1E290030, n=0x1b83f8) [C:\LFS\dlls\msvcrt\string.c:3163] in ucrtbase (0x0509f7d8)
3 0x03016d76 wined3d_context_gl_unmap_bo_address(context_gl=<is not available>, dst=<is not available>, src=<is not available>, range_count=<is not available>, ranges=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\context_gl.c:3125] in wined3d (0x0509f838)
4 0x03016d76 wined3d_context_gl_copy_bo_address+0x1b6(context_gl=<is not available>, dst=<is not available>, src=<is not available>, range_count=<is not available>, ranges=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\context_gl.c:3124] in wined3d (0x0509f838)
5 0x030094ff wined3d_buffer_load_location+0x33f(buffer=<is not available>, context=<is not available>, location=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\buffer.c:660] in wined3d (0x0509f8b8)
6 0x0300aa10 wined3d_buffer_load+0x1a0(buffer=<is not available>, context=<is not available>, state=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\buffer.c:902] in wined3d (0x0509f948)
7 0x0300cd37 context_update_stream_info+0x137(context=<is not available>, state=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\context.c:306] in wined3d (0x0509f9b8)
8 0x0301982f context_apply_draw_state+0x263(indexed=<internal error>, state=<internal error>, device=<internal error>, context=<internal error>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\context_gl.c:4244] in wined3d (0x0509fe88)
9 0x0301982f draw_primitive+0x4df(device=<is not available>, state=<is not available>, parameters=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\context_gl.c:5187] in wined3d (0x0509fe88)
10 0x0302ac4e wined3d_cs_exec_draw+0x10e(cs=<is not available>, data=<is not available>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\cs.c:1006] in wined3d (0x0509fec8)
11 0x0302e599 wined3d_cs_command_unlock(queue=<internal error>, cs=<internal error>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\cs.c:3308] in wined3d (0x0509ff28)
12 0x0302e599 wined3d_cs_execute_next+0xd1(ctx=<couldn't compute location>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\cs.c:3307] in wined3d (0x0509ff28)
13 0x0302e599 wined3d_cs_run+0x139(ctx=<couldn't compute location>) [C:\LFS\dlls\wined3d\cs.c:3374] in wined3d (0x0509ff28)
14 0x7b6293e0 in kernel32 (+0x293e0) (0x0509ff48)
15 0x7bc5ca07 in ntdll (+0x5ca07) (0x0509ff5c)
16 0x7bc5d228 in ntdll (+0x5d228) (0x0509ffec)
0x6ab29b25 ucrtbase+0x69b25: movq %mm0,0x0(%edi)
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (129 modules)
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PE 61fc0000-620b9000 Deferred dinput8
PE 62500000-628ff000 Deferred oleaut32
PE 63080000-630aa000 Deferred zlib1
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PE 65680000-65900000 Deferred msvcrt
PE 66080000-660e6000 Deferred msacm32
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PE 67500000-67552000 Deferred imm32
PE 67bc0000-6805d000 Deferred comctl32
PE 684c0000-68610000 Deferred combase
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PE 69840000-69938000 Deferred advapi32
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PE 6aec0000-6b065000 Deferred setupapi
ELF 6b18d000-6b298000 Deferred libgcrypt.so.20
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ELF 6bd2a000-6be00000 Deferred libsystemd.so.0
ELF 6bf5e000-6bfbf000 Deferred libopus.so.0
PE 6da80000-6dc9c000 Deferred gdi32
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PE 6f240000-6f3c2000 Deferred winmm
ELF 6f3da000-6f400000 Deferred liblz4.so.1
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PE 71080000-710a9000 Deferred hid
PE 71400000-720aa000 Deferred shell32
ELF 72200000-72abf000 Deferred libvulkan_radeon.so
ELF 72c00000-7a642000 Deferred libllvm-15.so.1
PE 7a800000-7acc8000 Deferred opengl32
PE 7b000000-7b51b000 Deferred kernelbase
PE 7b600000-7b756000 Dwarf-4 kernel32
PE 7bc00000-7beba000 Dwarf-4 ntdll
ELF 7c600000-7cec2000 Deferred libvulkan_intel_hasvk.so
ELF 7cec4000-7ced1000 Deferred libcap.so.2
ELF 7d000000-7d005000 Deferred <wine-loader>
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ELF 7e592000-7e5c8000 Deferred liblzma.so.5
ELF 7e5c8000-7e600000 Deferred libedit.so.2
ELF 7e600000-7e60b000 Deferred libogg.so.0
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ELF 7ea65000-7eae1000 Deferred libgldispatch.so.0
ELF 7eae1000-7eb4d000 Deferred libgl.so.1
ELF 7eb4d000-7ebef000 Deferred libnvidia-glsi.so.535.183.01
ELF 7ebef000-7ed1b000 Deferred libglx_nvidia.so.0
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ELF 7ed50000-7ed58000 Deferred libatomic.so.1
ELF 7ed58000-7ed7f000 Deferred libgcc_s.so.1
ELF 7edb0000-7edb8000 Deferred libasyncns.so.0
ELF 7edb8000-7edcd000 Deferred winepulse.so
ELF 7edf1000-7edff000 Deferred libvklayer_mesa_device_select.so
ELF 7edff000-7ee04000 Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF 7ee04000-7ee0b000 Deferred libnvidia-tls.so.535.183.01
ELF 7ee0b000-7ee29000 Deferred libelf.so.1
ELF 7ee29000-7ee36000 Deferred libdrm_amdgpu.so.1
ELF 7ee36000-7ee3b000 Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF 7ee3b000-7ee3e000 Deferred libxshmfence.so.1
ELF 7ee3e000-7ee43000 Deferred libxcb-shm.so.0
ELF 7ee43000-7ee56000 Deferred libxcb-randr.so.0
ELF 7ee56000-7ee5f000 Deferred libxcb-sync.so.1
ELF 7ee5f000-7ee6a000 Deferred libxcb-xfixes.so.0
ELF 7ee6a000-7ee6f000 Deferred libxcb-present.so.0
ELF 7ee6f000-7ee7e000 Deferred libwayland-client.so.0
ELF 7ee7e000-7ee85000 Deferred libxcb-dri3.so.0
ELF 7ee85000-7ef3d000 Deferred libzstd.so.1
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ELF 7f00c000-7f0ae000 Deferred opengl32.so
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ELF 7f1a0000-7f1af000 Deferred libxrandr.so.2
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ELF 7f6d3000-7f6ff000 Deferred libexpat.so.1
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ELF 7f775000-7f7b2000 Deferred libpng16.so.16
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ELF 7f881000-7f986000 Deferred libm.so.6
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ELF 7fe28000-7fe45000 Deferred libz.so.1
ELF 7fe6c000-7ffe0000 Deferred win32u.so
ELF f7c00000-f7e28000 Deferred libc.so.6
ELF f7e2b000-f7e30000 Dwarf libwine.so.1
ELF f7ec1000-f7f6f000 Deferred ntdll.so
ELF f7f77000-f7fac000 Deferred ld-linux.so.2
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00000044 winedevice.exe
00000048 0
00000054 0
00000058 0 wine_sechost_service
0000005c 0
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00000064 0
000000c4 0
00000068 winedevice.exe
0000006c 0
00000074 0
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0000007c 0
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00000100 0
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System information:
Wine build: wine-8.0 (Debian 8.0~repack-4)
Platform: i386 (WOW64)
Version: Windows 10
Host system: Linux
Host version: 6.1.0-13-amd64
So unrealistic... both ends of the airstrip can't be runway 10!
There's a spare byte in the packet, that could be used as a flag to specify whether the list replaces or adds to the existing list. Split into multiple packets, send the first with flag to replace, and then any extra packets with flag to add. Flag to replace can be 0 value, to maintain compatibility.
Started making a skin but the left and right texture mappings are not the same size nor aspect ratio. As I intended on using geometric shapes, it makes lining up precisely pretty impossible...
I've used the new LFS version to create a skin template, but I can see the side of the lightbar is apparently mapped right over the middle of the texture. I can crop that out for now and mix in the skin template without the lightbar but it would be nice for that to be fixed.
It also looks like the mapping for the rear of the light bar encroaches on the rear of the van.
It also looks like the mapping for the rear of the light bar encroaches on the rear of the van.
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Of course, just pointing out that:
is not really relevant because we don't see that.
But if the mod is custom or private, and you don't have access (most often the case) then the mod doesn't appear in the LFS list at all. And on the website, you don't get any information about the mod either and just get redirected to the mods list.
Make sure you do NOT have the steering wheel selected as your controller in LFS. If it is LFS will ignore all other inputs. If no specific input is selected then all inputs are usable, but may need to be manually assigned.
Looks great, probably drives great but too much power for my feeble skills. But the driver steering animation doesn't quite line up with the wheel.
/w find delay
I've noticed that /w find says a user is still connected to a particular server long after they've disconnected -- at least 15+ minutes. I don't remember this being the case in the past.
Next to the pedal inputs display is another useful place. Other driving games have it there...
HLV Speed / closing speed
This has probably been discussed to death years ago.
For HLVC type 1 (hitting a wall), it would be nice to have closing speed, like OBH and CON packets do. It does have vehicle speed, but it's the speed after hitting the wall, and I always get the MCI packets first so I can't easily judge the impact speed.
OR
It would be nice of OBH could be triggered for hitting any solid track feature, instead of only layout objects.
Is there any way that reliably works to detect how hard a wall hit is? For years we have just compared speed in MCI packets, which kinda works but is a bit crude with due to position prediction .
For HLVC type 1 (hitting a wall), it would be nice to have closing speed, like OBH and CON packets do. It does have vehicle speed, but it's the speed after hitting the wall, and I always get the MCI packets first so I can't easily judge the impact speed.
OR
It would be nice of OBH could be triggered for hitting any solid track feature, instead of only layout objects.
Is there any way that reliably works to detect how hard a wall hit is? For years we have just compared speed in MCI packets, which kinda works but is a bit crude with due to position prediction .
If I make a pitstop with the TOYTRI mod, I'm barely able to accelerate out of the stop once it's complete. It will move very slowly and once out of the pitstop box it will accelerate normally.
Not sure if it's a problem with the mod though.
Seems it wants to roll over quite easily.
Also using the standard license plate set by the player instead of the fixed plate would be nice.
Also using the standard license plate set by the player instead of the fixed plate would be nice.
Although this is working locally, in multiplayer an EV stopped in the pits will still appear to move (and then be teleported back)
Suspension seems pretty fragile, quite likely to implode when going up a ramp.
Trivial... reminds me of the current debacle of NFT-crypto-idiots thinking they can just get any content into any game... because it's "on the blockchain" 
Drives nicer with 32% intake restriction -- gives it the 210 bhp that the real 5.2L (according to Wikipedia) had on these.
Lack of working mirrors caught me out too.
Suspect the weight distribution shouldn't be 50/50 though, everything is at the front!
Lack of working mirrors caught me out too.
Suspect the weight distribution shouldn't be 50/50 though, everything is at the front!
Default suspension seems to be broken. 15N/mm rear and 100N/mm front cannot be correct.
Looks pretty good but has gaps in the shadow where sun shines through the windows.
Max torque seems to come in at low RPM, should be similar to max power RPM for a petrol engine.
Fuel tank also a bit large, around 39L seems to fit the specs.
Max torque seems to come in at low RPM, should be similar to max power RPM for a petrol engine.
Fuel tank also a bit large, around 39L seems to fit the specs.
Steering wheel, and also the front and rear bumpers, seems to be made up of discrete triangles, is that just a smoothing groups issue?
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Pressing both doubles it, so if you have One button look set to 45 degrees, pressing both will 90 degree look instead. So it looks behind only when set to 90 degrees.
Using G27 with LGS 5.10 on Windows 11. LFS 0.7A. No issues with input latency.
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