Quote from fujiwara :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... gRvyI&feature=related

Great show! Can't wait till the new season starts.

Thanks arrechee. I tried it but failed at mastering it. My fingers got very confused. But I can see someone more nimble-fingered being able to do it properly.

Quote from arrechee :

Hello,

Only two points:

.I dont use ilegal programs to gear box

.I can prove that i did not cheat.

No more complain and GO more fast in a HL

Hi,

Do you mind posting a short guide on how you do the manual shifting?
Just so we can compare it to the other methods.

Quote from RocksGt :

As far as I know he come back to LFS after some months focused on his karting races, he changed his old PC and he started testing new configurations, views, etc... so it's possible he started with autoclutch and then moved to clutch button if he found it quicker or better for controlling the car .

Which pretty much takes us to the point of what Glenn67 found with his testing. That there's a flaw in the autoclutch routine, and it is inferior to manual clutching.

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The only thing I know for sure is that he DO NOT use the macro. If anyone wants to accuse him for doing then he may show a better reason than LFS-World showing he uses button clutch and that he's beat a few WR's (he owns 3 at the moment).

I've known about arrechee for many years, and I know he is very fast, regardless of using autoclutch or not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to undermine his natural ability to go fast. We're just trying to get the devs to even out the obvious speed difference between the different shift methods. Making it fair for everyone.

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And the choice of hybrid in the UF1 it's very common, they heat faster and get better times by sliding the car a bit on the closed bendings

Yeah, but in the XRG? I tried it and the car was veeeery uncontrollable.

Quote from Glenn67 :

So you are making an assumption on wrong data...

So the hotlap analyzer on lfsworld is in reality useless? Well, maybe it isn't accurate down to a microscopic level, but I think it roughly shows the differences. Anyway, after reading about the tests you've done (which someone else obviously hasn't), I'm pretty much agreeing with your findings. As it is now, autoclutch seems to be at a clear disadvantage compared to the other methods.

Dude! I can say that because I have tested the macro myself, and experienced the mishift myself! And I know they are faster. No one is discreditting their fastness, dude! So don't come here telling me I'm talking shit. For ****s sake dude! Go try it yourself!

Quote from MaKaKaZo :

Donwload and play arrechee's WR for this combo (AS1 - UF1). You can see how many times there's a miss when he up-shifts. It was some weeks ago. I asked him directly and he told me that his old sidewinder (or whatever it is) wheel had the up-shift paddle a little broken and some times it won't make contact and the gear just won't kick in, so he has to keep pressing the clutch button and hitting the paddle until the paddle works. There's even a time when he shifts up involuntarily two gears because the paddle makes a double contact. Does the clutch macro generate that behaviour? I hope no one says now that this is macro clutch...

Yes, that's a known side effect of using macro.

Quote from RocksGt :

The reason for button clutch he gave was that he don't have a clutch pedal and he find manual clutching quicker than auto-clutch and, as far as I know, manual clutch via button it's not an unfair adavantage, isn't it?

In earlier patches you could shift manually using a button clutch. You could preselect a gear of choice, and then press the clutch to do the shift. That's not possible anymore, as far as I know. Looking at his earlier hotlaps he was using autoclutch, so this switch to not using it seems to have happened quite recently.

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Could you compare his graphs with ones from a person actually using the macro to see if there is a difference? I've read from some people that macro clutch it's not actually quicker than manual clutch but I don't even know if it's true...

Well, it's not easy finding someone that is 100% certain using macro, as they all deny it. But I think it's pretty certain that Pecholobo was using it, so I compared their hotlaps on AS1/UF1. If someone is using autoclutch, the graph would be at 100 on each shift. Here they are mostly faster than that.

There's a couple other things that I find strange. Like using hybrid tires all around and extremely strong brakes. Dunno what that's about...

Quote from RocksGt :

Anyway if you know how to see if someone is using or not the macro by looking at the analyser I would be pleased to know it in order to clean the name of few mates that has been accused and they claim they never used it

Look at the clutch graph, and you'll see the time difference in engaging the clutch.

Quote from RocksGt :

Ok, someone said before the opposite, but anyway, arrechee said that he uses button clutch, no script and no macro. He just have the clutch assigned to a wheel button and he presses it at every gear shift... don't see what the problem is

How does this work exactly? If he presses the clutch without lifting the throttle, there should be a rise in engine revs. I don't see that happening. And why can't they use autoclutch? It's been asked before, but no one seems to want to give an answer.

Yeah, get rid of McAfee. If it came with the computer, it's probably just a trialware and will eventually stop updating itself, if it hasn't already.

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

LOL! Sorry, well basically my internet has been working fine but recently started to loose connection so downloaded AVG to see if it was a virus problem, did a scan and removed 38 things from my computer, there was a couple of things i noticed like McAfee not working any more etc before the scan, its came back.

So, you're running both AVG and McAfee? Get rid of one of them, and only have 1 antivirus installed. Anything more just invites to all sorts of problems.

A few other suggestions. Run them all.

http://www.superantispyware.com
http://www.malwarebytes.org/rogueremover.php
http://www.simplysup.com/
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It resizes the image so it fits within the postbit, but you can still click on it to see the original size.

*bump*

This would really help preventing those gigantic external images breaking the forum layout.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=184571

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Quote from AndroidXP :

Spoiler - click to reveal

You could just fake it like that

Mmm, yeah ok. That kinda works too.

Quote from Shotglass :

whats the point anyway? the only threads that do contain spoilers are the ones about specific f1 races (and a few other classes) that pop uo every now and then
those would be full of spoiler tags (annoying) and anyone who opens these after the race will expect them to be full of spoilers anyway

Movies, TV shows (Top Gear eg.), sports events to name a few others.

Probably not what you're after, but I recently bought this thing, and just loves it. It doesn't have an internal DVD player, but I use it to watch movies and tv shows by streaming over the network or internal HDD. For what it does, the price is unbeatable.

I think a spoiler bbcode tag would be nice to have here.
Something like this.

Quote from arrowkart4 :

i had the wr on fe green rb4 before fin eza beat it, well done
i dont use a script, just every time i want to change gears, i press the right hand button on my g25 which engages the clutch. i cant get the script to work.

Well, you must have incredible fast reaction then, because from the attached graph you can see the difference in speed. Yours in red.

Quote from Glenn67 :

And as for 0.1 - 0.2 difference in lap time, imo it is quite achievable at the top level. It happens all the time that is why records don't stay static for long periods of time on say BL1 which is hotlaped to death. Most people get stuck in a certain range because their brains are telling them there is no more time to be found on this combo. Now if you set a macro for gear changes and are of the belief that it is faster then I do definately believe that it is possible for that individual to go out and get a new pb or lap record. That is a phenomenon that is well documented in many rl highest level sports.

So at this stage I remain unconviced it actually is any faster. Would be good to hear Scawen comment on the progam side of things, and would be good to do some more tests. I may do some more in other cars tonight for comparison.

Did you actually read about the tests we did? I'm consistently 0.2-0.3s faster on every combo I've tried this on. And that's just on the short tracks. It's not my imagination, nor a placebo effect that causes it.

Bad bad boy, Rudy...

Quote from aceracer :

Just doesn't work. press c - press x - release x - release c ... and all sorts of variations didn't get me any shifts in lfs ... sometimes when I flapped my paddles like a madman I'd get an upshift

Hmm, tried with c key and experienced the same as you. But it works properly if using one of the wheel buttons assigned as clutch.

If the memory is broken, there's usually some beeps when you turn on the computer. If it's dead silence, it's usually CPU that's broken. In rare cases it could be a faulty PSU.

Quote from Kdovi :

I'm pretty sure he doesn't read 7 pages long flame war

If it was, I'm pretty sure this thread would have been locked a long time ago.

Quote from MaKaKaZo :

And now I ask again why would someone need manual clutch in a button. In what circumstances is that useful?

Quote from Bawbag :

The only use I can think of having the manual clutch is bump starting the car, the other reason I thought of was holding the clutch in on the start line and putting the car into first gear, though you don't even need to have manual clutch on in order to do this.

I have a manual clutch assigned to one of my wheel buttons. I use it when doing 360's in the RB4/FXR warming up the tires. It helps when the revs get so low that the car is nearly stalling, I then just engages the clutch to help raise the revs so the car can keep spinning.