Awesome sound usage there. The intro was a little long, but it was surprisingly interesting with that music.

I really like the video in general and you've gotten much better at video editing.

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

Thats not what i said, i said the clip IMO would be better with drivers from LFS going at it, not AI pretending to be shuey and hak, i don't see the point.

+1 to that.

Making up a fantasy world really takes the interest out of it for me. Real life drivers don't play a part in this game, but many very high quality racers do. That's why doing a H2H final or just setting up an event with 2 or more guys (If they are of adequate skill) battling it out, would make for the best video atmosphere.

Once you look around you'll see there is a lot of league events that would be cool to make videos of. If I had the time to make videos like I used to, that's exactly what I would be doing.

Last edited by BigTime, Sat 27 Jun 2009, 11:48.

That's one of the most lag free servers I've ever seen. Great usage of contrasts BTW. Nice video!

Quote from dekojester :

Just so you alll know, I have dibs on the offical broadcast into for the 500.



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Gonna be tough for me to get one of these together before the 500 anyways. Typically like to have 2 or 3 weeks.

Quote from buck77 :

*cof* BIGTIME PRODUCTIONS *cof*

Start naming songs that would work for a short promo. If I see one that catches my eye, you never know what I might do...

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

Karolis Kliaudaitis---AS4---FZR-GT2---Karolis[lt]---2:32.84

M. Bont just smashed this record by running 2:31.54 in the FZR. Nice lap!

Quote from zeromussov :

Indeed... the FZR seems to much restricted now. You just have to go with the XRR to make a chance... I would say 27% restriction for FZR. (maybe 26%?) That should make it pretty perfect...

Almost as fast as the XRR then. (XRR still has the fuel advantage though)

Although I agree the cars might need to be looked into, the FZR has had it's day in the sun in about 5000 different leagues. I personally wouldn't mind it taking a back seat to the FXR and XRR for once. Also, you have to look at who ran that 31.000. I bet a majority of the XRR drivers can't make it into the 31's. I'm going to test on it and see if I'm wrong though.

I think you might have to resort to adding ballast, because you can only get it so close with restrictions.

Last edited by BigTime, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 18:40.

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Last edited by BigTime, Thu 9 Jul 2009, 18:39.

Any idea on when the season will be finalized?

CoRe Racing.

900 degrees is so flawed in this game. This video reminded me why I don't use it. Nice drifting for 900 though.

Quote from zeugnimod :

I actually missed this video the first time but after seeing this I had to watch it since I love that song and especially the singer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRK2n1FawM What a voice!!

You should listen to some of their other stuff. He's quite the screamer. Not my taste, but still a good screamer...

Quote from pipa :

This is a open forum where everyone can share and express their oppinion about anything really, unless its within the forum rules.

My reasoning behind my first post is that no matter what touring car race i watch on tv, internet, etc i havent seen anything like this and im happy about that. I love to see close fights between racers. Its just great to see them catching up in the slipstream and then pull out to enter the next corner side to side, fighting for every inch of the track.
That is what i call a enjoyable, exciting and realistic race experience.

If you feel that this is wasting your time, then why did you even bother to respond and still do. I can continue as long as i wish to and so can you.

Yes this is an open forum, but you keep making the same point over and over. I've answered the reason for why I'm responding to you, just read my last post. Bad information is contagious...

You love to see slipstreaming and going into the corner side by side, but watch the broadcast. People are bump drafting up the straight, catching up to a bigger packs, and still pulling out at the corner entrance to go side-by-side. Bump drafting allows us to have much bigger battles, which is aided by the ballast system.

As I said, we are getting opinions from people that just haven't seen the series, or understand what a fundamental part of racing bump drafting is. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing. I am, however, going to present my case as to why I agree with it.

Quote from MMMaaaXXX :

Thank you ^^ loved the intro of the song ^^

Thanks mate. Nice to see a comment after so long.

Quote from pipa :

Where did i say i you shouldnt bump draft. FYI in this whole thread i was just stating my oppinion, which this forum is basicly there for.

You've been implying things, then when someone responds to you opinions you blow it off and say, "why can't you understand I have a different opinion." The problem is, you've been brought into the debate, but you have no idea how to debate it. Then the people that are actually needed for the debate come here and see your comments, which until fixed, were all theory, filled with unrealistic opinions.

This is why this should have been kept internal at iTCC, so we wouldn't have to waste time with with poeple spreading opinions around about subjects, they obviously know very little about. You're complaining about it being unrealistic, then we showed you countless videos of it happening in real life. You haven't made any other point other than this, so why are you still continuing to post about this debate?

Last edited by BigTime, Thu 18 Jun 2009, 19:05.

Quote from MMMaaaXXX :

nice driving!

What's the name of the song? (A)

Thanks.

Submerged - Hollow

Haha, that's awesome!

Quote :

Originally Posted by dekojester
This entire bumpdrafting arguing is getting completely silly.

It it silly.

It's the fact that the iTCC touring car format encourages bumping, (according to what the broadcasters said all year) yet we are all sitting here arguing about people bumping, in a controlled manner.

God forbid we talk about all the low racing standards in the series, the ballast issues, or the uncontrolled bumping (and crashing) than was literally all over the series at the end of the season? Thanks to Michael, we have a community wide debate, that is bringing in a bunch of opinions that quite frankly shouldn't be taken into account. Hell, I've spent more time in the movie thread telling a cruise driver the flaws in his statements, than I have giving input to what could make this series better. This should have been discussed with the iTCC drivers and admins, not Bob the cruise driver.

Simply put, bump drafting is a part of racing. When you remove that ability, you are in someway taking the driver out of the sport. As I said earlier, I encourage bump drafting because it's a part of racing. You didn't hear me complaining when Rudy bump drafted past me, and went from 6th to 3rd in the last lap of one of our BL1 races... That's because everyone can do it. So please, let's not turn iTCC into F1.

Quote from pipa :

If you feel that i am wasting your time then why are you bothering to answer anyway?

Because you keep posting them.

Quote from pipa :

I dont have anything against drafting or bump drafting in general, but a 4 car bump-draft-train is in my eyes not a realistic race experience.

Here's your proof... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zse87Jyt0dg Plenty more NASCAR on boards that show this.

Outside row at the 3:00 minute mark. The same length of time it was done in the iTCC race.

Quote from pipa :

Also the realism part wasnt aimed at the physics, it was aimed at a realistic racing experience.

The rebuttal to this has been answered in several post... I'm starting to wonder if you actually have a point or not.

Lets just take your last statement and put it to good use. First of all the statement is wrong, but if it was true, you could go so far as to say that drafting in all of LFS should be banned... Because the aerodynamic package on this game does not react in a realistic manner, one you might experience in a realistic, real life race.

I hope you see how stupid it is to make this comparison...

Please, unless you have a useful point to add to this conversation, other than "Introducing bump drafting made it look ridiculous and awful to watch," then please stop wasting peoples time arguing over the same issue every time. It's simple, it's done in real life racing, so lets move on from that argument.

Quote from Rudy van Buren :

nice music and crashes

The bump drafting was about the only safe part about that race... You missed the craziest race I've even been in, or probably ever seen.

Quote from Tomhah :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_GvSqrov0c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcN7_q6wEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEv-YxJysxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40omxUaC3FM

And we're not even getting into the branches of NASCAR. Check out iRacing too... It happens all the time.

Last edited by BigTime, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 16:14.

Quote from pipa :

Show me any racing vid with 4 cars bumpdrafting except nascar and i shall be quiet.

That has nothing to do with the argument. The fact is that it's bump drafting... It doesn't matter if it's 2 or 20 cars. Safety isn't a factor in sim racing, so comparing a line of bump drafting cars in LFS to real life is pointless.

Quote from Kid222 :

"show us your S2 account!!1" wave arrives.

:bananadea

Quote from pipa :

God that looked ridiculous. Looks like we are heading further away from realism.

www.NASCAR.com

FXR = Nice wide, even bumpers. COT = Nice wide, even bumpers.

Last edited by BigTime, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 22:23.

I love how you showed all that great bump drafting action that was nearly incident free. Then in the next clip people are ramming into each other at the corner.

I guess your right, bump drafting is the big issue with this series... /sarcasm

Nice video!

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

Point still stands: the whole thing is dangerous, unrealistic and unfair on a guy who managed to make a break on the rest of the field. That's my 3.5 pence. EDIT: Actually, it's more like 1.75 pence. Fail.

It's not unrealistic at all...

The simple fact of the matter is, this whole bump drafting thing is being brought up because a select few drivers care to take part in it. Round 5 I was bump drafting a Merc skinned Pickard all over the place. I was doing the same in round 6 to any and everyone in front of me on the straights. The problem is, 12 guys in the series have caught on to and do it, while the others don't. Why not make a rule that says you must bump draft and are not allow to pass a driver until 300 meters before a corner entry? It solves the same issue you appeal, but in reverse. Sounds dumb doesn't it?

I really can't believe we're arguing this when drivers were dive bombing 5 and 6 cars back this last round of the season, and not a word has been said. "It's touring car racing, contact is part of it" is what we heard all year over the broadcasts... Yet you can't safely bump draft a car down the straight? Thats just a simple lack of vision...

The truth is, I wish a lot more drivers bump drafted. You can scream it's an unfair advantage, but it's not. Everyone can do it and I for one encourage it...

Last edited by BigTime, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 04:24.