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BigTime
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Quote :Originally Posted by dekojester
This entire bumpdrafting arguing is getting completely silly.

It it silly.

It's the fact that the iTCC touring car format encourages bumping, (according to what the broadcasters said all year) yet we are all sitting here arguing about people bumping, in a controlled manner.

God forbid we talk about all the low racing standards in the series, the ballast issues, or the uncontrolled bumping (and crashing) than was literally all over the series at the end of the season? Thanks to Michael, we have a community wide debate, that is bringing in a bunch of opinions that quite frankly shouldn't be taken into account. Hell, I've spent more time in the movie thread telling a cruise driver the flaws in his statements, than I have giving input to what could make this series better. This should have been discussed with the iTCC drivers and admins, not Bob the cruise driver.

Simply put, bump drafting is a part of racing. When you remove that ability, you are in someway taking the driver out of the sport. As I said earlier, I encourage bump drafting because it's a part of racing. You didn't hear me complaining when Rudy bump drafted past me, and went from 6th to 3rd in the last lap of one of our BL1 races... That's because everyone can do it. So please, let's not turn iTCC into F1.
BigTime
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Quote from pipa :If you feel that i am wasting your time then why are you bothering to answer anyway?

Because you keep posting them.

Quote from pipa :I dont have anything against drafting or bump drafting in general, but a 4 car bump-draft-train is in my eyes not a realistic race experience.

Here's your proof... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zse87Jyt0dg Plenty more NASCAR on boards that show this.

Outside row at the 3:00 minute mark. The same length of time it was done in the iTCC race.
BigTime
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Quote from pipa :Also the realism part wasnt aimed at the physics, it was aimed at a realistic racing experience.

The rebuttal to this has been answered in several post... I'm starting to wonder if you actually have a point or not.

Lets just take your last statement and put it to good use. First of all the statement is wrong, but if it was true, you could go so far as to say that drafting in all of LFS should be banned... Because the aerodynamic package on this game does not react in a realistic manner, one you might experience in a realistic, real life race.

I hope you see how stupid it is to make this comparison...

Please, unless you have a useful point to add to this conversation, other than "Introducing bump drafting made it look ridiculous and awful to watch," then please stop wasting peoples time arguing over the same issue every time. It's simple, it's done in real life racing, so lets move on from that argument.

Quote from Rudy van Buren :nice music and crashes

The bump drafting was about the only safe part about that race... You missed the craziest race I've even been in, or probably ever seen.

Quote from Tomhah :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_GvSqrov0c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcN7_q6wEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEv-YxJysxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40omxUaC3FM

And we're not even getting into the branches of NASCAR. Check out iRacing too... It happens all the time.
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BigTime
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Quote from pipa :Show me any racing vid with 4 cars bumpdrafting except nascar and i shall be quiet.

That has nothing to do with the argument. The fact is that it's bump drafting... It doesn't matter if it's 2 or 20 cars. Safety isn't a factor in sim racing, so comparing a line of bump drafting cars in LFS to real life is pointless.
BigTime
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Quote from Kid222 :"show us your S2 account!!1" wave arrives.



:bananadea
BigTime
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Quote from pipa :God that looked ridiculous. Looks like we are heading further away from realism.

www.NASCAR.com

FXR = Nice wide, even bumpers. COT = Nice wide, even bumpers.
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BigTime
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I love how you showed all that great bump drafting action that was nearly incident free. Then in the next clip people are ramming into each other at the corner.

I guess your right, bump drafting is the big issue with this series... /sarcasm

Nice video!
BigTime
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Quote from Mp3 Astra :Point still stands: the whole thing is dangerous, unrealistic and unfair on a guy who managed to make a break on the rest of the field. That's my 3.5 pence. EDIT: Actually, it's more like 1.75 pence. Fail.

It's not unrealistic at all...

The simple fact of the matter is, this whole bump drafting thing is being brought up because a select few drivers care to take part in it. Round 5 I was bump drafting a Merc skinned Pickard all over the place. I was doing the same in round 6 to any and everyone in front of me on the straights. The problem is, 12 guys in the series have caught on to and do it, while the others don't. Why not make a rule that says you must bump draft and are not allow to pass a driver until 300 meters before a corner entry? It solves the same issue you appeal, but in reverse. Sounds dumb doesn't it?

I really can't believe we're arguing this when drivers were dive bombing 5 and 6 cars back this last round of the season, and not a word has been said. "It's touring car racing, contact is part of it" is what we heard all year over the broadcasts... Yet you can't safely bump draft a car down the straight? Thats just a simple lack of vision...

The truth is, I wish a lot more drivers bump drafted. You can scream it's an unfair advantage, but it's not. Everyone can do it and I for one encourage it...
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BigTime
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Quote from CSF :Utterly shocking driving.

I don't think there was 5 guys on the track last round that didn't drive like lunatics. I've never seen such a lack of respect going into the final round of the season for any league I've ever run in or spectated. With that said, I have no room to complain, because I had my fair share of issues in round 5. We can all agree the contact makes the series what it is, and I love that. The simple fact is that everyone makes mistakes, the problem is that we're beyond the mistake factor, at least for this final round.

If I had a dollar for every dive bomb that was attempted on me that resulted in contact that race, I'd have like 7 bucks.
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BigTime
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Straight from the hood, gangsta style. :beady:
BigTime
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Old western classic. I kinda like the song, at least certain parts. Nice camera work btw.
BigTime
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Not a lot of editing, but a damn interesting video. Song is perfect for this. What is that song BTW?
BigTime
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It doesn't mean you have to be a pure bred dumb ass ether. Not that everyone in this video was, but those guys drive bombing from 10 and 15 cars back should go die in a fire. I hate getting crashed out in T1 by those guys.

Nice video BTW.
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BigTime
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This is an idea that should have been put in the sim from the get go... Quite frankly, it's ignorant not to allow it. The exclusion of the ability to repair certain things, or change certain tires, limits the usage of many strategies that are used in real life and other simulations. This very simple change will give drivers more options when preparing for a race.
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BigTime
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Quote from TFalke55 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nWhzk5WCJc

the lost video... the planned Intro... xD but well

That effect looks great, but the frames are a little weird. Awesome vid though.
BigTime
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Best video by far. Nice work.
BigTime
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That ballast gap is a lot larger than I had anticipated on... Are those final?
BigTime
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Cutting corners? Did I miss something?

Pretty good video.
BigTime
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Quote from pearcy_2k7 :Yeah, i said it was tweaked

Ooops, my bad.
BigTime
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Your right, that is a typo. Laptime = 1:21.22.

Quote :Did 1.13.05 in BF1 that was a pretty good lap.

The BF1 World Record is a 1:21.99, so you might be on the wrong track... AS3R just in case.
BigTime
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Freaking tubular!
BigTime
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Quote from andRo. :Nice, I would like to try one of those, yap, nice driving and nice car sounds!

Here ya go.

Edit: replaced in the OP.

Double edit: for those who try this, be prepared for the car to be really loose on the fast sections. It has so much downforce and speed that it bottoms out at 200 MPH and faster.
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BigTime
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You did a good job fixing you external shots. Now apply a little color correction and your videos will be even that much better. IMO, this is one of you best videos.
BigTime
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Quote from Semozo :Hello!
I made my new vid. It is onboard movie from race with few overtakes and other actions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w3lYI3C9eA

Any comments are welcome

HD recommended.

The music made that... Nice moves for a mouser.
BigTime
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Not bad. Try a little more zoom on your external shots. Like the song choice.
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