Quote from JackDaMaster :

n-heptane is far from anti-knock. I'm pretty sure that shit would explode from me looking at it .
Toluene is very dense which means that it doesn't vapourise easily. n-heptane would help start the reaction whilst also reducing the octane rating. Honda used to preheat the fuel by running the lines through or past the muffler and various other hot parts.

Well I'm pretty sure they're using heptane in knocking tests for race engines. I could be wrong though.

Quote from JackDaMaster :

F1 fuel is 40% Aromatics by wt%. i.e. Toluene and stuff (but only 1% Benzene)

In the 80's F1 fuel was 86% Toluene - which has a RON of 121 - and the rest was something like n-heptane which has a RON of 0. Ridiculous stuff

So essentially they would find the highest octane shizzle they could find then then add as little anti-knock agent as possible so that it was no longer an issue to have such high octane fuel?

Quote from tristancliffe :

It won't be much different. It's still gasoline. You could add stuff to make it burn more efficiently (i.e. Reduce knock sensitivity) but you can significantly change the density or the calorific content.

Well I don't know the regs on fuel for F1, but I was sure the fuel was ethanol based.

Quote from seniecka :

Ok, guys. Enough of the racing line. This discussion has gone way too far offtopic already.

Oh my god, not another topical thread Nazi.

The type of figures that auto manufacturers of any kind like to give are those when the car/engine is running in perfect conditions.




Lets be honest here, in terms of a power figure you're never going to be accurate because at the times when the power of an engine is recorded it's generally under dyno conditions or on a test bed, which is just about as far from a real engine application as you can get.

So many variables alter the power of an engine, altitude, humidity, temperature.. and that's not JUST for turbocharged engines of course, it's the same for a tractor even.

Because equality means mentioning oppressed shit in a positive light at any given opportunity.

Quote from Borsch :

Sweden had ALL but one of their star players sidelined, last to go was their no1 centre Backstrom who played in semi-final, but not in the final. Zetterberg, Henrik, Franzen, Backstrom were all out. Crappiest final ever.

Still think they would have edged it.

Why is that funny? Because Clarkson said something?

Looks more like a huge Alec Baldwin

Quote from Mustangman759 :

I have to agree, Canada kept the puck better and really set up good shots. Didn't even bother watching USA vs Finland because I knew Rask would shut us down after a morale dip like that.

Yea you guys got railed for the Bronze, although at least you were in contention for it, unlike the Russians.

Final was an amazing spectacle of Canadian Ice Hockey talent, although I did want Sweden to knock the puck in to liven things up. After that 2nd goal it was just game over.

Damn that Force India sounds rorty as hell! Love it, each car is quite different acoustically to the next.

Quote from tristancliffe :

No, just back to the good old days of drivers having to look after cars, rather than 100 minutes of qualifying laps. And not just because of tyres.

KERS for 2014 is up to 161hp for up to 33 seconds per lap. It will still be deployed in attack and defense, but stands a chance of fending off a DRS-only pass.

Essentially the engineers will just map it per lap automatically IIRC. I guess they'd have to use GPS data to do it though.

Quote from ACCAkut :

it's always been part of endurance racing, and IMO it makes racing more thrilling. More tactical thinking and variation on track, not just in the pits.

Yea, well since when was F1 endurance racing?


EDIT : and also with no pitstops all this means is that at some point they will all be driving on fuel save.

Last edited by BlueFlame, Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:30.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

We don't really know what the fuel consumption restrictions will do though.

Make the racing shit. That's a given.

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

No. MX5 = boring.

BTW, that Turbo Capri mod looks good. We need more mad turbo beasts in AC.

That wasn't for AC.

Quote from Mysho :

Oh god, why Miata... So much more better cars available in this world and the guy does Miata.

Because MX5 = car enthusiast, didn't you know? That's why any 'car guy' now has an MX5.

Quick was on it, shame the US didn't make it through but Canada clearly were better on the night.

Quote from Anthoop :

...but this topic is about the 2014 F1 season?

Well I didn't post it. I just have an opinion on it.

Well excuse me for having a mind more open than a thread topic title.

Quote from ImudilaSkyline :

just stop it.. it's a top gear thread

Who gives a shit? A forum is a place for discussion, a discussion is a free-flowing conversation. If you're just forcing people to stick to one topic then that's essentially trying to control ones views/opinions.


EDIT : If blunt did say that then it was inappropriate most definitely.

Last edited by BlueFlame, Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:57.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Yeah but sayin "we bombed the shi* out of serbs", when a lot of innocent people and children died from those bombs is disgusting.. And dropping their whole supply of uranium bombs, contaminating our soil and health for decades..
"Stopping from killing each other", how bout minding your own business for once..

Well it's blunt, but it's the truth that's why NATO were there, to stop and minimize the violence and the Serbians were at the heart of the violence. You can't argue against historic fact.


Innocent people died? Well that's the same as every war in the history of the human race, it doesn't make your argument any more or less credible. Yugoslav wars were one of the biggest travesty in humankind because of the intricate nature of the violence that even split families in two.


I don't know what you'd know, and I never could, but what we both know is that NATO helped people get out of a shitty situation. Without NATO who knows, maybe there'd still be fighting today....

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Blunt was an awesome guest, with his "we bomb the shi* out of serbs" remark.. for people and country who never did harm to him or UK..

Not sure what you're on about, all I heard was a military controlled airport reference but he was with NATO in your country trying to stop you from killing each other.

Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

Ted Nolan, there's your reason Latvia is somewhat good nowadays, they are 100x better now then compared to before he took over.

Now that is true.

Quote from Hyperactive :

Mardenborough is born in 1991 while reip is born in 1987 and ordonez in 1985. Redbulls wants them young. Even Mardenborough is already 23 so he has a lot more time left than 27 year old reip or 29 year old ordonez. F1 teams won't get ordonez no matter how good he is if he is now 29, after a season of gp3 will be 30. Even if goes to do a season of gp2 he will be 31 at earliest when he can get into F1.

Lets be honest, he won't make it to F1. It's just typical Red Bull, sponsor anyone.

Quote from Mustangman759 :

No you don't say? But how often does a goalie save that many good shots in a game? Maybe you should reread my post and understand I was praising the Latvian goalie as player of the game -period.

Every game you watch the goal tender makes critical saves. The Finland game as an example, the goal tender was on fire.