A remembrance is remembering the good and success of a person, not the death...
Well in that number nothing good came, so I don't see why someone would choose that number to show support for such a Driver. Also in terms of success that car number yielded nothing for Senna.
Why? He's known only for driving the number #1 the #27 and I think it was either #12 or #14. Can't remember exactly though.
Achievements based on beating a lap time are far more of a reflection of ability than an achievement saying you completed a time trial with no damage though.
To a point the achievements just act like stats, for now at least. Just like LFSWORLD
The fact is, you get people who are dedicated and then you get those that have a bad result or realise they're not as quick as they thought and give up very easily.
Never understood the baby-r. It feels so slow to drive and the only cars its faster than is the UF1, XFG and XRG iirc. Just not challenging enough IMO
It does sound good but it's the audio from another car.
Don't kick a man whilst he's under the influence of retard!
Where did I say that I didn't believe it? I just said it wasn't really possible which in my retarded syntax means 'difficult'.
I would of suggesting scrapping LFSCART as it doesn't attract decent enough numbers.
I have never refused to believe it. I said if you took pictures and asked someone to order them it would be a struggle to do it and they probably wouldn't get it correct. It's like remembering a street name or something, you might not remember what it's called but you know the location and all but you just don't remember the name. That's why I said I severely doubt anyone could accurately run through the Nordschleife on the fly. It's one of those things.
If someone was to do it to me in person I wouldn't be able to credit or dis-credit them because I don't have the knowledge of the Nordschleife to contest that and I think when people refer to 'this guy knows the Nordschleife inside out' that it is one of these incidents, where they reel off a few corners that may or may not be in the correct order, but it sounds correct so people just assume it's correct.
I suppose though maybe I am generalizing and using sim-racers/car enthusiasts as the benchmark in that typically every body thinks they know more than they actually do. Myself included.
Is it? Actually?
The difference is you're mentioning ICONIC turns. The landmarks of those particular tracks. If you mention a relatively minor corner or a corner not alot of people pay attention to such as Stavelot at Spa or Cascades at Oulton or Craner Curves at Donington. But if you gave the corner numbers before the name it's alot harder to visulize depending on what system you're used to of course. [numbers as opposed to corner names]
Also in relation to the last paragraph you wrote. It's impossible to 'prove' that unless an experiment was done. Say, take Marc Basseng as an example or someone like that with extensive knowledge and then get someone else with little or no knowledge to do as many laps as the pro driver has done [approximately] and then do various memory tests about the circuit to each of the people and see how results compare. Although I'd say it would be pretty impossible to rack up as many miles at the ring as some of these VLN drivers because they've been driving there all their lives.
But lets not stray off topic here, my original point was you may not know the track inside out but it doesn't stop you from knowing what corners/sections DO come next. Personally there's too many versions of Nordschleife. GT's epic version, Forzas weird version and rFactors shit version for someone here to say they know it inside out anyway..
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Steve Clarke getting canned was silly though... he was doing a good job..
No, I think GTR should be a series. What's the point having only single races that your main competitors might not even be able to attend?
It's so much more fun when there's a championship involved because points make races more interesting. If there's something that's only a single event, I know personally I wouldn't bother entering, because nobody has a reputation or respect to care about anyone else.
It's so much more fun when there's a championship involved because points make races more interesting. If there's something that's only a single event, I know personally I wouldn't bother entering, because nobody has a reputation or respect to care about anyone else.
There's less effort involved in typing than writing. You could even remove and replace a word with less effort than it takes to actually write an actual word on an actual piece of paper with actual ink n shizzle.
If I screamed a random corner number at a random track you think anybody would just instantly know what it was? Of course they wouldn't. They'd have to play out a few corners in their mind before getting close and even then they have a great chance of being wrong.
There are probably very few techniques where visualizing will a whole lap would help. Nobody is going to simulate [real-time] mentally driving the Nordschleife or Le Sarthe back-straights for instance. They're just focusing on the important aspects, braking points, turn in, peripheral references.
This Loci method only seems to be applicable to those who are gifted with an insanely large and accessible memory bank. But before now I hadn't read anything about that.
You're right in terms of having pictures vs visualizing in your mind though. I guess it was a bad example. But I think sports people get too much benefit of the doubt in that respect in that they know every aspect of teh track they're racing on and every little camber change and tiny bump. The reality is they probably remember the track just as anyone else would with the same amount of experience on that said track. Just cos they can drive a car fast as hell doesn't make them a superhuman brain too. I mean, look at Maldonado...
There are probably very few techniques where visualizing will a whole lap would help. Nobody is going to simulate [real-time] mentally driving the Nordschleife or Le Sarthe back-straights for instance. They're just focusing on the important aspects, braking points, turn in, peripheral references.
This Loci method only seems to be applicable to those who are gifted with an insanely large and accessible memory bank. But before now I hadn't read anything about that.
You're right in terms of having pictures vs visualizing in your mind though. I guess it was a bad example. But I think sports people get too much benefit of the doubt in that respect in that they know every aspect of teh track they're racing on and every little camber change and tiny bump. The reality is they probably remember the track just as anyone else would with the same amount of experience on that said track. Just cos they can drive a car fast as hell doesn't make them a superhuman brain too. I mean, look at Maldonado...
If you read. You'll notice that I said when you're ON the track you'll know whats coming next but it's almost impossible without proper mental training to recall from your memory alone all 140~ corners because it's theoretically impossible to process 140 images in your mind successively.
If you had a picture of each corner of the Nordschleife and were asked to put them all in order I bet even professionals would get a few corners wrong. It's just the way the human brain works.
Just like if you visualize in your mind a trip to the shops. Guaranteed you will miss things out from the images in your head, be it something small like a shop window or lamp post or something a bit more significant like the length of the road or the width of it.
Much like trying to draw a track map from memory on a piece of paper, you'll probably draw something completely shite, but it doesn't mean that you don't know the track like the back of your hand.
It's along the lines of when you smell/hear or taste something that reminds you of something else but it's never triggered by anything other than that specific sensory input. It's exactly the same when talking about the Nordschleife. It's the images of what you see there and further down the road that trigger your memory to tell you what is next. A still image is probably not enough information to tell you what is next as your eyes have memorized the 3d images of the track rather than 2d ones. And unlike a shorter track there are too many short term elements to stack in your mental RAM [so to speak].
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Well to an extent that's true but if you honestly picture the nordschleife and do a lap in your head I garentee you'll miss a few corners out.
That's teh beauty of the Nordschleife. You do know the track, when on track you know whats coming next, but you couldn't possibly remember all 140~ corners by memory in the correct order. It's just not really possible for the human brain to do it.
Actually a rather smooth lap. Like watching Jenson Button
Well what grinds my gears (no pun intended) is drivers with little experience who do no practice, drivers/teams that make alot of mistakes during a race and seem to do nothing to solve the problem and keep making those mistakes in every race.
I mean sure I think LLM are taking an unfair beating, like I said to Sean on TS the other night. In some way no matter how people see LLM the fact of the matter is in some way, without LLM it wouldn't be quite the same.
Although it does seem to be a fact that every race there is a major incident involving an LLM car and it's not uncommon at all to see an LLM vehicle on it's lid during an event. That's what annoys me because it doesn't seem to get rectified because it seems to happen all the time.
In some way I do have respect for LLM because no matter what they keep racing and to be fair that should be commended because after bad results alot of people lose motivation and give up completely.
I mean sure I think LLM are taking an unfair beating, like I said to Sean on TS the other night. In some way no matter how people see LLM the fact of the matter is in some way, without LLM it wouldn't be quite the same.
Although it does seem to be a fact that every race there is a major incident involving an LLM car and it's not uncommon at all to see an LLM vehicle on it's lid during an event. That's what annoys me because it doesn't seem to get rectified because it seems to happen all the time.
In some way I do have respect for LLM because no matter what they keep racing and to be fair that should be commended because after bad results alot of people lose motivation and give up completely.
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