FWD would be "stock" right? 
Larson has a high ceiling as far as his ability and skill, but his average is not there. Contrarily, Mark Martin had/has a relatively low ceiling, but his average is at his skill ceiling. Larson is talent-wise like Kyle Busch only with a lower average (at least at this point in his career. If the new points system remains, I'm afraid the average might not matter anymore.
I'm speaking semi-figuratively, so I hope this has made sense.
Great race, and Dale Jr. netted another fan. I never liked his dad a bit, but he skipped the burn-out, saluted the fans, and told TV to take a back seat and hugged each member of his crew rather than just thanking them in his interview. Great show of respect. I wish every winner acted the way that he did after the race.
Now to see if the changes at the non-plate tracks are an improvement. That is where NASCAR and the voice of many intelligent fans like PMD and myself (my intelligence is arguable) disagree.
US TV ratings for this race were down in prime-time aired against the Olympics closing ceremony averaging just under 10 million viewers (down about 20% from previous years). The Olympics closing ceremony was also down in TV ratings.
Also of note, that photo is displaying a tornado-like formation towards the south east of Daytona Beach. This means that it is not the aforementioned tornado in Ormond Beach.
I know more than a few people who did this.
Now to see if the changes at the non-plate tracks are an improvement. That is where NASCAR and the voice of many intelligent fans like PMD and myself (my intelligence is arguable) disagree.
US TV ratings for this race were down in prime-time aired against the Olympics closing ceremony averaging just under 10 million viewers (down about 20% from previous years). The Olympics closing ceremony was also down in TV ratings.
Also of note, that photo is displaying a tornado-like formation towards the south east of Daytona Beach. This means that it is not the aforementioned tornado in Ormond Beach.
I know more than a few people who did this.
This is all you need to know: http://forecast.weather.gov/sh ... nado+Warning#.UwpYXTqPLmR
Edit: and this photo from DIS of the (supposed) tornado in nearby Ormond Beach (a few miles north):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhL7uqDIgAAweI9.jpg
Edit: and this photo from DIS of the (supposed) tornado in nearby Ormond Beach (a few miles north):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhL7uqDIgAAweI9.jpg
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This was a much different race than the Cup races so far. Good race despite the dominance by the inside lane that made it difficult for anybody not Timothy Peters to make a good run on the outside. 
I second PMD, what was Timothy to do? Let them pass?
Look for rain to play a facotr in the rest of this race weekend at Daytona. Nationwide will be lucky to start on time, and the 500 is likely to be rain shortened at around half way (3PM EST). This is all scattered in form, but it still takes almost 2 hours to dry the track.
I second PMD, what was Timothy to do? Let them pass?
Look for rain to play a facotr in the rest of this race weekend at Daytona. Nationwide will be lucky to start on time, and the 500 is likely to be rain shortened at around half way (3PM EST). This is all scattered in form, but it still takes almost 2 hours to dry the track.
Time to see the new trucks run. Rain is over.
live stream: racefansonlytv.com
password is: daytona
As always, I'm pulling for Darrell Wallace Jr. and against fake yellows that I hope to never see again
live stream: racefansonlytv.com
password is: daytona
As always, I'm pulling for Darrell Wallace Jr. and against fake yellows that I hope to never see again
No, not directly, but the end result is the same in almost every circumstance.
Also, I hear that Fox is changing their ticker?
As I (think) I said before, the larger rear spoiler was a needed change. However, I don't see a way to make the racing better at the plate tracks without creating more and bigger wrecks unless some major changes are made.
Greater closing rates mean more crashes, but more passing and actual racing action. Lesser closing rates mean less crashes with less racing. I cannot think of an alternative which would improve racing without creating more crashes unless they change the way the events look completely the way that tandems did.
My honest suggestion is to raise the grandstands (cutting back the first ~20 rows since attendance is poor anyways) and raise the walls, give them more give (the walls) and attempt to ease back on the plates and downforce to reduce cornering ability. What were the speeds like at Michigan a few years ago unrestricted? 220 top speed? This shouldn't be much different. Indy Car goes faster than NASCAR does on similar speedways (size) out of packs. I'd be curious to see what addition of speed and reduction of downforce would be needed to reduce cornering ability and bring more of a normal look to NASCAR's biggest event(s). I think with a few external track modifications (walls and grandstands) the event could be just as exciting or more so than it is now without the big pack of cars ending up in a junkyard towards the end of the race. Average lap times shouldn't be lower than 40 seconds by any means (225mph), but I think 41 seconds (~220) would be okay if the pack would disappear leaving the best handling cars to draft in the straights and battle in the corners for the win.
Would this fit into NASCAR's current marketing strategy? Of course not, but is their current marketing strategy really working? This is something that we will find out by the end of this season
Edit: In short, higher walls, bigger plates (upper 500's HP rather than 400's), more drag, less downforce, terminal velocity alone around 215 - 220 mph.
I enjoy debating ideas, so feel free to point out flaws. It makes everybody involved more knowledgeable and understanding
Greater closing rates mean more crashes, but more passing and actual racing action. Lesser closing rates mean less crashes with less racing. I cannot think of an alternative which would improve racing without creating more crashes unless they change the way the events look completely the way that tandems did.
My honest suggestion is to raise the grandstands (cutting back the first ~20 rows since attendance is poor anyways) and raise the walls, give them more give (the walls) and attempt to ease back on the plates and downforce to reduce cornering ability. What were the speeds like at Michigan a few years ago unrestricted? 220 top speed? This shouldn't be much different. Indy Car goes faster than NASCAR does on similar speedways (size) out of packs. I'd be curious to see what addition of speed and reduction of downforce would be needed to reduce cornering ability and bring more of a normal look to NASCAR's biggest event(s). I think with a few external track modifications (walls and grandstands) the event could be just as exciting or more so than it is now without the big pack of cars ending up in a junkyard towards the end of the race. Average lap times shouldn't be lower than 40 seconds by any means (225mph), but I think 41 seconds (~220) would be okay if the pack would disappear leaving the best handling cars to draft in the straights and battle in the corners for the win.
Would this fit into NASCAR's current marketing strategy? Of course not, but is their current marketing strategy really working? This is something that we will find out by the end of this season
Edit: In short, higher walls, bigger plates (upper 500's HP rather than 400's), more drag, less downforce, terminal velocity alone around 215 - 220 mph.
I enjoy debating ideas, so feel free to point out flaws. It makes everybody involved more knowledgeable and understanding
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As expected, the 3 is on the pole.
Bitter sweet race for me. Return to great memories of watching NASCAR in the past, while at the same time a fiery rage in the stomach at what the series is becoming.
On the true superspeedways if you're going to keep the cars glued to the ground you need to add more drag than last year's package. Good move by NASCAR (probably the only good change this year) to make the rear spoiler height change at the plate tracks. The effects of changes elsewhere are yet to be seen, but I don't see them helping much.
On the true superspeedways if you're going to keep the cars glued to the ground you need to add more drag than last year's package. Good move by NASCAR (probably the only good change this year) to make the rear spoiler height change at the plate tracks. The effects of changes elsewhere are yet to be seen, but I don't see them helping much.
Woo! The last pure national stock car series is green in Daytona (albeit with not enough power to do much of anything ) ARCA racing's 200 mile race. 
Edit: And a big crash due to inexperience. Here's a stream link: http://www.racefansonlytv.com/
Stream password is: daytona
) ARCA racing's 200 mile race. Edit: And a big crash due to inexperience. Here's a stream link: http://www.racefansonlytv.com/
Stream password is: daytona
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http://www.ibtimes.co.in/artic ... an-stabbed-death-hoax.htm
This was a hoax if anybody had read anything about it.
This was a hoax if anybody had read anything about it.
Administration initiated investigation:
Session of Incident (Official Sessions for Round 5: Qualifying 1, Qualifying 2, Race): Race
Lap AND MPR timecode of incident (or session time or UTC Time of Day): 4:11:35
Car(s) involved: 73 & 71
Location of Incident (Track Map Here): Pit Entry / Oval Turn 3
Brief Description of Incident: Cars 73 slows down in front of 71 due to an apparent flat tyre causing both to spin.
Under investigation by the stewards, awaiting discussion with involved driver(s)
Session of Incident (Official Sessions for Round 5: Qualifying 1, Qualifying 2, Race): Race
Lap AND MPR timecode of incident (or session time or UTC Time of Day): 4:11:35
Car(s) involved: 73 & 71
Location of Incident (Track Map Here): Pit Entry / Oval Turn 3
Brief Description of Incident: Cars 73 slows down in front of 71 due to an apparent flat tyre causing both to spin.
Under investigation by the stewards, awaiting discussion with involved driver(s)
Early people feared death and what followed it. Once communication became possible somebody attempted to ease people's minds with a religion of sorts. There is no way to prove them wrong, so the idea sticks, and evolves to the complex thing that it is today. Religion is not a bad thing in and of its self, and there's nothing wrong with it because it does have a purpose in any society which allows emotion.
Organized religion as it exists today, however I feel has been used more as a tool for gaining and maintaining power than easing people's minds. All of today's major religions were established in times when science was well behind where it is now (with Islam being the youngest). This is the reason that religion can be proved incorrect in its current form.
We have no way of knowing exactly what happens to a person's consciousness after they die, and it will likely remain that way for ages if not forever. This is where religion still has a play in today's world. The religions themselves cannot be respected by anybody exactly as they are today if they believe in science, but their ideas about a person's consciousness after life should still be.
Science is ever evolving, and may later prove its self wrong when enough evidence proves it so. Religions have never been able to be proved wrong until recently, and they are so stepped in tradition that they will not accept it. Accepting it would also reduce the power of the organization which is behind it, and as thus prevents them for accepting the truth as science presents it. This is why organized religion is losing masses of followers worldwide.
Organized religion as it exists today, however I feel has been used more as a tool for gaining and maintaining power than easing people's minds. All of today's major religions were established in times when science was well behind where it is now (with Islam being the youngest). This is the reason that religion can be proved incorrect in its current form.
We have no way of knowing exactly what happens to a person's consciousness after they die, and it will likely remain that way for ages if not forever. This is where religion still has a play in today's world. The religions themselves cannot be respected by anybody exactly as they are today if they believe in science, but their ideas about a person's consciousness after life should still be.
Science is ever evolving, and may later prove its self wrong when enough evidence proves it so. Religions have never been able to be proved wrong until recently, and they are so stepped in tradition that they will not accept it. Accepting it would also reduce the power of the organization which is behind it, and as thus prevents them for accepting the truth as science presents it. This is why organized religion is losing masses of followers worldwide.
Well, I must say that Ham has a few valid points. The first is that in a system that is not to be biased towards a religion the science books of many United State's public schools are in fact somewhat slanted. This is a good argument. I must admit this.
As an atheist I cannot see a 6,000 year old Earth being anywhere near reality, and I absolutely cannot see myself believing in creation theory.
On the other hand these people should be entitled to their opinion, and our children should be left to decide what they believe on their own. I don't think schools try to deny children of that right, but I do think that scientific knowledge and understanding reveals the truth to a majority of people.
Reincarnation and other such theories of an "after-life" I also cannot believe, but I don't see scientific understanding and knowledge hindering such viewpoints in any real way. (First hand experience here with an Agnostic Girlfriend of 3 years).
Thanks for posting this It was enjoyable.
As an atheist I cannot see a 6,000 year old Earth being anywhere near reality, and I absolutely cannot see myself believing in creation theory.
On the other hand these people should be entitled to their opinion, and our children should be left to decide what they believe on their own. I don't think schools try to deny children of that right, but I do think that scientific knowledge and understanding reveals the truth to a majority of people.
Reincarnation and other such theories of an "after-life" I also cannot believe, but I don't see scientific understanding and knowledge hindering such viewpoints in any real way. (First hand experience here with an Agnostic Girlfriend of 3 years).
Thanks for posting this
It was enjoyable. Well, they took integrity out of the championship, and put it back into the penalty process. Can't get the best of both worlds.
Never been at the track, but if I had to pick a seat it would be there as high as possible
Edit: Also, this from ESPN
Edit2: Oh, and if you feel strongly enough about anything, please e-mail NASCAR at: [email protected]
They could use some more fan feedback from people who know something about racing.
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I don't think that Dale's death was the begin of NASCAR's decline. I think it was a bunch of little things starting in 2004 with the chase, and just mismanagement of the sport by NASCAR it's self. The viewership levels in 2004 - 2005 were not sustainable by any means, but more than 66% of it was. They went the wrong direction, and some things were out of their control like the driver's personalities being put down by sponsors (and NASCAR at times). I don't think management is in touch with it's fan base at NASCAR, and probably hasn't been for a few years at least.
Stream Replay is being uploaded and will be available here when it is finished: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... fx28&feature=youtu.be
LFS Replay is also being uploaded and will be available here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent. ... 14/2014%20Kyoto%20400.mpr
LFS Replay is also being uploaded and will be available here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent. ... 14/2014%20Kyoto%20400.mpr
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2014 Kyoto 400 LiveStream @ 18:00 GMT
http://www.simrace.tv/page.php?51
There will not be commentators, but I will try to rotate the cameras as often as possible. Also, we will have a twitter tag of @Kyoto400 and the race will be on LFS Remote at this link: http://www.lfsworld.net/remote/?host=[WR]+Kyoto+400
Race begins at 18:00 GMT. Good luck, and enjoy!
There will not be commentators, but I will try to rotate the cameras as often as possible. Also, we will have a twitter tag of @Kyoto400 and the race will be on LFS Remote at this link: http://www.lfsworld.net/remote/?host=[WR]+Kyoto+400
Race begins at 18:00 GMT. Good luck, and enjoy!
True, but with the true race fans gone who is going to bring in people who are in it just for the excitement? The excitement people come and go, but the true fans do not and keep bringing people with them. I contributed at least 9 fans directly over the last few years all of them watched most of the races all of last year.
The thing is, even the excitement fans are not completely in favor of it, but sadly that might change once time goes by and this thing comes to life.
I'm curious what would happen if NASCAR went to a full season champion, added 7 more bonus points to the winner of each race, and cut the schedule back to 30 races in 2015. They said it's still on the table for major changes to the schedule that year. This, and the cup races wouldn't compete with the NFL much if any.
Also, under this new system once you're eliminated you return to your pre-chase points total unless you make the (
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