We at Realistic NASCAR will hold the Rallycross Shootout Series this year for the second year in a row. Here's the schedule: https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=81890

Registrations will open sometime this week or next

So, what exactly did the US Government have to gain by staging this whole thing anyways?

I voted maybe. It would depend on the dates, times, and format of such a series for me . KY1 would work maybe for one race, but any more than that would not be very exciting.

Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

What you guys seem to argue about is personal opinions, some like how it is, some don't. There's no facts that can change ones view on what he enjoys or not.

This is an excellent point

I actually did watch the final half of this race after I woke up on Sunday morning. As I've said before, F1 does not interest me like other forms of auto racing for one reason or another. . I think it comes with an abundance of driving rules, but I cannot pin point that for sure.

I love motor sport period though. (Demo-Derby, Figure 8, Motor Boat, Motorcycle, Endurance, Sprint, Dirt, Pavement, anything) I'll watch anything and give it a try. I can't explain why I don't exactly find F1 interesting, but I am able to see what you guys enjoy in it. I'll sit down and watch the Monaco GP, then watch the Indy 500, then watch the Coke 600 two Sundays from now right in a row . If there is a rally race on TV between the GP and the 500 I'd watch it too.

Anyways, the point of the matter is that some people can't stand oval racing. I think they are crazy, but it really doesn't matter . Some people have posted saying that F1's tyres and DRS aren't entertaining. That's just as much of an opinion. When I first heard of it I hated the ideas, but as I've watched a little bit it's just become another aspect of that specific kind of racing. The only problem is that people who watch Formula 1 racing and have formulated an opinion of what that specific type of racing should look like, and others just don't like ideas period.

I've never seen F1 without it, and I've grown to be okay with it. It still doesn't appeal to me more than other forms of racing, and I'm not sure that it would in any event.

I was once dumb enough to argue my opinions on the matter, but I'm smarter than that now. . Fact is that you can't argue opinions and get anywhere.

Just out of curiosity by the way, what kind of draft advantage would a following F1 car have on a long straight-away without DRS? How bad would the Areo-Understeer be? Any ideas? I was thinking that on some of the long straights the draft could more than erase the loss in the corners.

Look here at the number of green flag passes in this race: http://racing-reference.info/loopdata/2013-10/W

I think that's just stupid and not entertaining. More passes aren't always better.

Last edited by Cornys, Mon 13 May 2013, 17:24.

Quote from CheerioDM :

My ass.

FYI, 1,776 meters would be over a mile high (5920' 0") . Bring it on!

Yeah, "didn't" hit Kahne WTF DW? You're out of here!

Not a bad race last night Only one caution for debris in a mostly caution free race

It was nice to see a caution free run for once in a while

KB had a leak in his left rear which made him fall off the pace. I'm not going to complain about it

This dominance by Matt Kenseth just shows how bad Roush is if you ask me.

I look for Hamlin to be competitive in his full time return He has VERY high ratings here in past years.

Was I the only one further impressed by Kyle Larson's first Nationwide race at Darlington? He finished 6th

Also, there wasn't a single "fake" caution in last night's Nationwide race. I won't cross my fingers, but I hope that this is the start of a trend. There weren't any at Talladega or Richmond for the Cup Series.

2 min. video on Kurt at IMS: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... car-michael-andretti.html

Not a bad race tonight overall

Tomorrow's starting line-up official PDF

Kurt Busch goes from Indy to Darlington and wins the pole

Track record as expected, but barely. The 64th annual Southern 500 should be fun tomorrow if the rain doesn't come into play.

Hourly weather forcast: http://www.intellicast.com/Loc ... on=USSC0084&day=Today

Last edited by Cornys, Sat 11 May 2013, 13:30.

Quote from Rappa Z :

1+7+7+6=21
2+1=3
2/3=.666

Clearly this is all part of a satanic government conspiracy.

Am I the only one who really doesn't understand any of that kind of thing? Or is that everybody else to?

Quote from flymike91 :

you think anyone on this forum cares? They'd tune in and watch if someone blew it up and make up stories about which US government agency did it but this doesn't make the cut for interesting events here.

It's after midnight just about everywhere else in the LFS forum world

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

So Kurt hit 218 during his rookie orientation at Indy. Not bad!

Yup, not too shabby. Here's the article:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s ... HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

I'd like to see the double attempted more often. Maybe he'll run Pocono later this year or something

I must say that this was a pretty good race

I watched the race replay and enjoyed it

Quote from PMD9409 :

Which track have you been to? If you have been to Indy, go to Michigan. If you have been to Michigan, go to Indy. If you have been to both? Go to Michigan. If you have been to neither? Go to Indy. If you are going for multiple days? Indy.

Gen-6 car? Seems like Denny a ... rlier in the year for us.

Alright, I'll keep that in mind . I was to Michigain in 2001 when Gordon and Rudd fought for the win, but I was only 6 years old . I've never been to Indy, but I will be either this year or next

Harder to pass isn't always a bad thing really. Bristol's new configuration is hard to pass on, but that's what makes it exciting

The Kyoto Ring is easy to pass on in the FZR so the passes mean just about nothing. To me there is a fine line.

Usually the mistakes aren't really on the part of NASCAR. It's usually on the team side. Edwards clearly was in second and continued to beleive that he was first due to the infield scoring tower. I really don't see the logic behind that on the 99's part.

The Kenseth penalty was reduced by the pannel today. I beleive that they did this due to the fact that JGR had little to do with the infraction. TRD still loses 5 manufacture points, which is where the penalty is deserved any ways

The Penske penalties were largely upheld. Crew Chief suspensions however were reduced from 6 to 3 races. That's about it.

Kenseth appeal results: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... eth-appeal-penalties.html
Penske appeal results: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... eat-escape-for-champ.html

Does anybody else think that the Gen-6 car has improved the racing so far this year?

Also, what do you think about a $220 (tickets, parking, gas, food, girlfriend) trip to the Brickyard 400 in turn 4 (avoiding the STUPID infield grandstands). I won't have $ problems entering college this fall and I'll be working Wednesday - Saturday all summer for 10 hours a day. Would it be worth it, or would I be better off just going to Michigan in August for the same price? I'd love to see the historic track though .

If I do decide to go I'll probably just wait until the Wednesday before to buy them so that I know it won't rain on my plans. . I know that it won't come close to selling out, so no worries there

Advice? Thoughts?

Last edited by Cornys, Thu 9 May 2013, 01:05.

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Brad challenges NASCAR at every call when things don't go his way though. Newman I can kind of get, since he did have Kurt's car land on him (then again he's got an engineering degree from Purdue), but why not put that engineering degree to use and go to NASCAR and offer to help, instead of laying into them, the track, the laws of physics and everything else?

Brad though....He needs to quit whining every time stuff don't go his way. Fox broke down the restart issues and proved him wrong. I'm all for drivers speaking their minds but Brad needs to STFU from time to time and not whine and bitch that things didn't go his way every time something goes wrong.

Brad's not running well enough on the track? He'll just bitch on Twitter about it after the race even if he drives his way to the front. Same thing if he gets caught up in a wreck, he'll just go to Twitter.

+1 there

Brad complained about being moved back in line in the spring Martinsville race last year after he nearly stopped to avoid the 24, 48, 15 spin. He didn't maintain yellow flag speed even, so of course he was moved behind those who flew by on the inside.

I didn't pay enough attention to see why he was moved back this time, but there probably was a good reason for it. I've never really seen NASCAR make a restart order mistake, but it is of course possible.

Sadly I havn't and probably won't have the time to comment on the 'Dega race as I'd like to but it was pretty good despite the rain. 300 times better than Daytona. I think they at least need to raise the spoilers at Daytona, but the package is GREAT for Talladega evidently

Onto the best race of the year... every year (The Southern 500 at Darlington Raceway)

Actually, Denny just tweeted and posted on Facebook "Guess who's back?"

He's been cleared to race, so he actually may be racing the entire event this Sunday (if it does't rain, 30% chance). That decision is to be made by JGR, but I beleive if it was up to Denny he'd be in there for the entire event

This thanks to Jayski and facebook

That was probably the best all around race of the year I felt bad for Montoya, but I think he'll have more chances later on this year to win a race. Still a very good run from him.

You'd think so, but I'm like you when it comes to engines sadly.

I suppose that it could help if it didn't blow up (makes me think about the engine trouble TRD had at Daytona and that they've won on almost all of the horsepower tracks this year (Cali., Vegas, Texas, Kansas..)

Holy crap

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... zed-after-kansas-win.html

:chair:

Quote from Gougoodthing :

V8 Supercar/NASCAR car swap at COTA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzrTDBwFyg

Thanks for sharing It didn't look like they got them very fast as far as speeds though

I look at it more from a fairness point of view. Those who have a good car are now more likely to be toward the front for the start and the same goes the other way around. Excitement wise I do agree with you though Benny, but I have to remain in favor of this.

You are correct PMD.

CotA would be much better than Kansas for a second time, or, heck, just about any mile and a half a second time, but I don't see it happening. It's a shame.

Quote from Gougoodthing :

Send 'em all out at once and make it a 20 minute session. Not this stupid "groups of 5-10 drivers" rubbish

Eh, I prefer the groups myself. Very unlikely that a slower driver will get in a faster driver's way or the other way around.

Car swaps are always cool and it'll be cool to see Sprint Cup cars at CotA