Race 5 discussion - Fire-wrecks of the Caribbean
track: Fern Bay Rallycross Green
laps: 2 races of 30 laps each
grids: race 1 random, race 2 reverse of the finishing order of race 1
server: S3 Racing Thinkin RBs
password: rust
Reminder 1: You must finish a race to score points in that race.
Reminder 2: There will be a "lag lap" immediately before the start of the first race.
Reminder 3: There is no telepitting and rejoining during the race.
Reminder 4: There are no pits here, so take it easy and make sure you have enough fuel!
Feel free to discuss pre- and post-race here, but keep it respectful. PM me for any protests.
laps: 2 races of 30 laps each
grids: race 1 random, race 2 reverse of the finishing order of race 1
server: S3 Racing Thinkin RBs
password: rust
Reminder 1: You must finish a race to score points in that race.
Reminder 2: There will be a "lag lap" immediately before the start of the first race.
Reminder 3: There is no telepitting and rejoining during the race.
Reminder 4: There are no pits here, so take it easy and make sure you have enough fuel!
Feel free to discuss pre- and post-race here, but keep it respectful. PM me for any protests.
Last edited by Danke, .
Thanks to the guys who were on last night for testing. I'd like to get your feedback on the format, keeping in mind that the actual event would be a one hour race instead of the ~10 minute ones we did last night. I'd probably also have a required pit stop in the one hour race.
I'll start with my impressions.
- LFS seems to assign garage spots based on your grid spot. So with a random grid like we had last night, the Le Mans start is left to chance. We could even have qualifications to try to get the best garage spot for the start.
- I liked the Le Mans starts. It was a nice change of pace from the usual standing start. Granted we didn't have many people on, but they were clean.
- As Cabby pointed out, the DT was a killer in a short race. An hour race shouldn't be too bad. In a short race we could have a chicane on the front stretch after the pit entrance to make the DT less potent. I'd also like your feedback on when the DT should happen - around 50% of the race distance? 20-30%?
I'll start with my impressions.
- LFS seems to assign garage spots based on your grid spot. So with a random grid like we had last night, the Le Mans start is left to chance. We could even have qualifications to try to get the best garage spot for the start.
- I liked the Le Mans starts. It was a nice change of pace from the usual standing start. Granted we didn't have many people on, but they were clean.
- As Cabby pointed out, the DT was a killer in a short race. An hour race shouldn't be too bad. In a short race we could have a chicane on the front stretch after the pit entrance to make the DT less potent. I'd also like your feedback on when the DT should happen - around 50% of the race distance? 20-30%?
Running an endurance race entirely in reverse? Hmmmm... I smell another event brewing. Add into that forced TV view and we have a winner!
We'll see how the test goes first. We don't want to count our lemons before they sprout. I'll be on the server (S3 Racing Lemons) Wednesday around 9pm. Hope to see you guys there.
Yep, there was a caution with 5 to go (or so, I can't remember exactly) which took them into G/W/CH territory. Guys couldn't make it one lap into the G/W/CH so the caution came out all that was it.
Mmmm, beer and toast...
Hey, we're just trying to make sure it stays cool enough up there in Canadia for the Olympics.
The voices in my head have spoken to pick this week's award winner(s).
The Rusty Screw this week goes to RSR.Celcius for his equipment struggles. This is not a track where you want to be dragging the brakes.
A special bonus award this week goes to S3R BeerCobra. He earned the Al Gore Low Carbon Footprint award by running only a few laps of the 18 scheduled for the event. Thanks to Paul's sacrifices in lowering his carbon emissions, the globe is a little less warm today. I believe a toast would be appropriate.
The Rusty Screw this week goes to RSR.Celcius for his equipment struggles. This is not a track where you want to be dragging the brakes.
A special bonus award this week goes to S3R BeerCobra. He earned the Al Gore Low Carbon Footprint award by running only a few laps of the 18 scheduled for the event. Thanks to Paul's sacrifices in lowering his carbon emissions, the globe is a little less warm today. I believe a toast would be appropriate.
Off week fun run/testing session
The Le Mans start, where drivers run across the track to their cars, start them and take off, was banned after the 1969 24 hour race due to safety concerns. Since real life and limb are not at risk in a sim, I started wondering if a Le Mans start is possible in LFS.
Of course not, you idiot. You can't get out of the car and do useful things like chase around prostitutes like you can in GTA. But what you can do is force everyone to telepit at the start of the race, then join from the pits after the green flag has dropped. How, you ask? Enclose the entire grid area in barriers. The start procedure is:
- Everyone joins the grid like normal.
- When the green flag drops, everyone telepits (shift-P), then rejoins after the LFS-imposed 12 second countdown. Pull out of the pits to start the race.
- Pit road speed limits apply, please don't ram someone while exiting your pit stall. If you get walled you can always telepit again.
- There could be a limit on the number of people who can pit/join at once. That's all part of the fun.
Since the starting grid is blocked, there is a diversion through the grass on the front stretch. I marked the s/f line in the grass with a line of cones, which you are meant to plow through. And there's an extra off road chicane to the back section of the course. I tried to pad the red/white barriers with hay bales to minimize moon shots.
To add even more chaos, the leader at the end of lap 3 gets a DT. This is loosely patterned after "The People's Curse" penalty at 24 Hours of Lemons events, although not nearly as harsh. It takes 12-15 seconds to serve a DT. There could be some interesting strategy trying NOT to lead lap 3.
The server "S3 Racing Lemons" is set up for this using lapper. There's an RCM at the start that tries to explain the oddities in 40 characters or less.
I'm thinking of a one off semi-endurance event, or maybe a league based on this concept, but it obviously needs some testing. Sure, it sounds like there's no way it could fail, but you never know until you try. :P
edit: I forgot, the server is set to XFG+XRG at AS2 and it's using a special layout.
Of course not, you idiot. You can't get out of the car and do useful things like chase around prostitutes like you can in GTA. But what you can do is force everyone to telepit at the start of the race, then join from the pits after the green flag has dropped. How, you ask? Enclose the entire grid area in barriers. The start procedure is:
- Everyone joins the grid like normal.
- When the green flag drops, everyone telepits (shift-P), then rejoins after the LFS-imposed 12 second countdown. Pull out of the pits to start the race.
- Pit road speed limits apply, please don't ram someone while exiting your pit stall. If you get walled you can always telepit again.
- There could be a limit on the number of people who can pit/join at once. That's all part of the fun.
Since the starting grid is blocked, there is a diversion through the grass on the front stretch. I marked the s/f line in the grass with a line of cones, which you are meant to plow through. And there's an extra off road chicane to the back section of the course. I tried to pad the red/white barriers with hay bales to minimize moon shots.
To add even more chaos, the leader at the end of lap 3 gets a DT. This is loosely patterned after "The People's Curse" penalty at 24 Hours of Lemons events, although not nearly as harsh. It takes 12-15 seconds to serve a DT. There could be some interesting strategy trying NOT to lead lap 3.
The server "S3 Racing Lemons" is set up for this using lapper. There's an RCM at the start that tries to explain the oddities in 40 characters or less.
I'm thinking of a one off semi-endurance event, or maybe a league based on this concept, but it obviously needs some testing. Sure, it sounds like there's no way it could fail, but you never know until you try. :P
edit: I forgot, the server is set to XFG+XRG at AS2 and it's using a special layout.
That works, thanks! For some reason I was thinking those were pre-defined variables.
I have a weird/dumb question. I want to give the leader on lap 2 a drive through penalty (odd, I know) using lapper. I thought I could do it by adding a few conditions to the OnLap event.
It doesn't seem to work. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
Event OnLap() # Player event
# DT stuff follows
IF ( $Pos == "1")
THEN
IF ( $LapsDone == "2" )
THEN
cmdLFS( "/p_dt " . GetCurrentPlayerVar("Username") );
ENDIF
ENDIF
EndEvent
It doesn't seem to work. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
Congrats to Boothy and Cabby on the wins. There were some really nice battles, especially the T-Sho/JayBee/Gil scrap in the closing laps of race 1.
The rusty screw is going to be a tough pick. Glenh deserves one some time for his disconnect problems. On the other hand, he managed to hold the disco demons at bay until after race 1 was over. Celcius is a solid pick with his pedal problems. I could see his dragging brake lights on some of the long straights.
The rusty screw is going to be a tough pick. Glenh deserves one some time for his disconnect problems. On the other hand, he managed to hold the disco demons at bay until after race 1 was over. Celcius is a solid pick with his pedal problems. I could see his dragging brake lights on some of the long straights.
Sweet entry to kick off the competition. Bonus points for the turtle sniper and using my site logo in your entry.
Classic! That would be my race night routine too, but I need to stay sober enough to issue admin commands and ban miscreants.
I'm usually in the 2 minute flat range +/- .5 seconds. I'm notoriously nice to my tires. I did a whole LOTA GT season one time on the same set of tires.
How about UF1 instead?
In my testing so far, I'm finding this track to be relatively easy on tires. That probably just means I'm not pushing it hard enough.
In my testing so far, I'm finding this track to be relatively easy on tires. That probably just means I'm not pushing it hard enough.
I like rallycross a lot, in fact the Winter Beater Cup is half RX tracks. I'd like to see something like Race Center, but all RX. Unfortunately LFS doesn't have that many RX tracks to choose from.
One of these days you're gonna eat wall for requesting more laps. Actually that was me that threw glenh's car at you last race. It's a top-secret insim car throwing app. 
Race 4 discussion - The Nine Circles of 'hill
track: Westhill International Reverse
laps: 2 races of 9 laps each
grids: race 1 random, race 2 reverse of the finishing order of race 1
server: S3 Racing Thinkin RBs
password: rust
Reminder 1: You must finish a race to score points in that race.
Reminder 2: There will be a "lag lap" immediately before the start of the first race.
Reminder 3: There is no telepitting and rejoining during the race.
Feel free to discuss pre- and post-race here, but keep it respectful. PM me for any protests.
laps: 2 races of 9 laps each
grids: race 1 random, race 2 reverse of the finishing order of race 1
server: S3 Racing Thinkin RBs
password: rust
Reminder 1: You must finish a race to score points in that race.
Reminder 2: There will be a "lag lap" immediately before the start of the first race.
Reminder 3: There is no telepitting and rejoining during the race.
Feel free to discuss pre- and post-race here, but keep it respectful. PM me for any protests.
Last edited by Danke, .
Nice pics, BD! The pic from race 2 secures the winner of this week's Rusty Screw award -Cabby. It's unusual that the points leader gets the screw, but this week it's appropriate.
BTW, I'd like to point out that the skin competion pics can be taken from racing events. Since almost everyone had some additional damage, this might be a good week to take your shots from. Nothing says authentically crappy like real body damage.
BTW, I'd like to point out that the skin competion pics can be taken from racing events. Since almost everyone had some additional damage, this might be a good week to take your shots from. Nothing says authentically crappy like real body damage.
That respose applies in every possible context.
Hey, nice racing tonight. It was good to see some new blood, but apparently nobody told you guys about the rule where you have to admin beat you in your first race.
I decided at the last minute to go with my road_super setup. It was great for race 1. I did 16s the whole race pretty much, which is fast for me, and the tires never got hot. Race 2 was another story. The wind shifted and screwed me (along with a lot of others I think) up in the backside dirt section. I can't believe I wound up on the podium running 17s and 18s.
I'm open to suggestions for the Rusty Screw. Glenh comes to mind for his connection problems. Or one of the many people who flipped in race 2.
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Not knocking you or the ipad, but we used to have a thing that would play music instantly without booting. It was called a stereo.
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