Quote from Dalek0220 :

Bad Puns!!!

You thief!

Quote from Shotglass :

from what ive gathered biggie has time to think about these things ... even when driving a bf1

In that case he has to think harder, because he still haven't got the wrs back I stole from him. :P

Today I had an idea.. What if... The AI could learn from the player? If it could take over the braking points, lines.. stuff like that. And of course compensate a bit by letting it make small errors, just like a real human. This would make the AI challenging for everyone!

Just a thought..

I had that this week. ATC Quicksilver tried to distract me. But instead I came into some kind of flow, I started typing, and was still doing 1:00.5x (Aston Club / FOX).

Sometimes I have it, when I have it I'm usually one or two tenths slower then on my max. When I'm on my max, I sometimes hold my breath for a corner, or corner combination. I don't do that very contiously.. This sometimes brings me into a state where I can do faster then I think I could have done. Or hold a pace I didn't believe was possible. How consistant and fast it was. Pretty cool stuff.

Quote from BruTaLysT :

The Apex is the slowest point in a turn, the moment where you stop to lift/brake and hit the throttle again.

That's not always true I think. The apex is the point where you hit the inside in a turn. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the slowest points. In hairpins you're usually already on the throttle when you hit the apex.

LFSworld.net > S2 Hotlaps > Hotlap charts > select combo > click on the laptime to save an SPR.

Quote from BlueFlame :

As much as i want to agree with you, i just can't, yes, if the FOX was a Forumla Ford type car, i could accept it, but its not is it, its a Forumla Renault of sort, and i just can't accept that Formula Renaults handle this way.

Uhm.. I've heard people complain it has too much grip..

But I think the grip is fine. The FOX has got HUGE grip. I haven't spun that thing for a long time.. Maybe the "lack" of grip isn't so much in the FOX, but more in the driver?

Test Race - Aston North
Thursday, August 9, 2007
Qualifying: 20:00 h. CEST
Race: 20:30 h. CEST

Qualifying: 20 min
Race: 35 laps - 182,0 km

Maybe it's a bit early, but I'm opening a sign-up thread for the Test Race already. You can only sign up here if you signed up at the website (http://fv8.cyxian.nl). This doesn't mean you have to drive the whole league.

Please enter:
- License name
- Team (if more then 2 drivers from one team, make teams with 2 drivers per team)

If you got a question about this, please post it in the "About signing up" thread.


Deadline for signing up is 1 hour before the qualifying.

Edit: nevermind, I'll send a password to everybody who signed up at the website.

Last edited by Darkone55, Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:24.

Quote from Dalek0220 :

I voted for wind and no pitting. But i do think reset should only be used if the car is in an extremely dangerous position. E.G. Cars just aquaplaning and flying of the track from the European Grand Prix. Something like that.

Well, you voted, but I don't see you on the driverslist? Are you still gonna join? I'm thinking about not counting the people that are not gonna drive (including myself)... If that makes any difference.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Is this schedule final? I just ask because some of these track are most interesting in their reversed configuration, especially Westhill and South City Long. If it were up to me I would replace KY Nat with KY GP Long (or Rev), but I just love that track to bits.

It's final more or less. I still don't know about Westhill.. But I don't like to use rev circuits. I think circuits should be one way, so I'm gonna use them in only one way.

Ky Gp is interesting yes, maybe more interesting then Westhill... But then we won't have Westhill, and have Kyoto twice. So I think I will keep it as it is.

http://lfs.cyxian.nl/001.png
http://lfs.cyxian.nl/002.png
http://lfs.cyxian.nl/003.png
http://lfs.cyxian.nl/004.png
http://lfs.cyxian.nl/005.png
http://lfs.cyxian.nl/006.png

I was experimenting a bit..

Beware, they're quite big.

Quote from Cappy333 :

I don't feel very strongly either way about wind, as long as the the windspeed is low.

As far as instant pitting, I think it should probably be allowed during qualifying, but definately not during races.

Yes, you're right. I'm talking about the race here, for the no instant pitting option. In qualifying it should be possible, since that's only 20 minutes.

I voted for no instant pit, I like the idea that anything can happen in the race. When a crash happens there can be a SC situation, and the Race Direction tells the drivers to press shift+p (to jump in the T-car).

About the wind, I voted for wind on, this way the track feels a bit different every lap, making it more interesting. And also, adaptivity is a driver skill.

Hello again!

Just wanted to let you know a subforum has been opened!
For information and questions about the league please go there.

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=131

Quote from Victor :

Ok, that's added now.

Ok, thank you very much Victor.

Information about the rules can be found here. If something is unclear, or you have another question about the rules, please post it here.

Rules

Qualifying
Flying Lap
During a flying lap or in- and outlap it is not allowed to cut the track in
any way. Before entering your flying lap the driver is not allowed to use anything different then the track itself. The driver is allowed to go wide
to gain more speed on the straight, but not by driving off the track.

Race
Penalties
Points penalties will be given after the race. In a race, the Race
Direction can decide to give a driver a Drive-Through (DT) or Stop&Go (SG)
penalty. A DT or SG penalty should be completed withing 3 laps of the current lap. If a driver does not complete a DT withing 3 laps, he will
be given a SG penalty. If a driver does not complete a SG penalty
within 3 laps, he will be given a Black Flag (meaning disqualification).

- If a driver is given a DT or SG in lap 1, the driver will have to go into the pits in lap 3.
- If a driver is given a DT or SG at the end of lap 1, while the driver passed the pit entry, the driver will have to go into the pits in lap 4.

But the lap to come in will be given during the race.Disconnects
When a driver disconnects, the driver is alled to rejoin the race. The laps will be counted as the lap where there driver was in while the disconnect happened, -1 lap. So if a driver disconnects at lap 39, the driver will re-enter the race at the beginning of lap 38. Blue flags
When a driver gets a blue flag, he needs to give room to the driver
behind as soon as he gets the chance. Drivers who ignore a blue flag
can get a Drive-Through or Stop&Go penalty. During qualifying, a
driver may have his fastest laps taken away by the Race Direction.

Format
Sign-up
RegistrationTo take part every driver will have to register to.... to take part in the league. The league driver also has to sign up to the events itself.There will be one race every two weeks, except between the Test Race and league
races, starting the 9th of august.

Qualifying
Every driver must uploaded an hotlap time set at a given track
with the Formula V8. The fastest 30 drivers at the deadline will enter
the league competition.

Qualifying
Qualifying will be 20 minutes long, and start at 20:00 CEST (18:00 GMT
/ 19:00 BST) Every driver will have 9 laps to complete. When 20
minutes are over the drivers may still finish their current flying lap.
The drivers are allowed to chat during qualifying. So it is recommended
for the qualifying drivers to block messages (- button).


Race
The race will start at 20:30 CEST (18:30 GMT / 19:30 BST). Every drivers starts from the place they qualified on, except when the race
Race Direction decides otherwise.

Incidents
Every driver should at least drive 90% of the race distance to obtain
points. Every drivers has one T-car (shift+p) available. However, when
a crash occurs, they are not allowed to shift+p untill the Race Direction
tells them to. Also will there be no resetting. When a crash incident
occurs in the first 3 laps involving 40% of the cars there will be a race restart. The crashed drivers will have to start last.

Chatting
Also is there no chatting allowed during the races! Chatting will cause a Drive-Through/Stop&Go/points penalty, decided by the Race Direction.

Points

[B]1st place - 20 points
2nd place - 15 points
3rd place - 12 points
4th place - 10 points
5th place - 8 points
6th place - 7 points
7th place - 6 points
8th place - 5 points
9th place - 4 points
10th place - 3 points
11th place - 2 points
12th place - 1 point[/B]

Last note:
A driver is allowed to mis two races. If a driver misses three races, he will get banned from the league. I'm sorry to be harsh, but we only want motivated people to race. The results of the worst race (or if you missed one) will not count. So too keep running for the points, you can only mis one race.
This does not include the Test Race!

Last edited by Darkone55, Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:37.

Information about the rules can be found here. If something is unclear, or you have another question about the rules, please post it here.

RulesQualifyingFlying Lap
During a flying lap or in- and outlap it is not allowed to cut the track in
any way. Before entering your flying lap the driver is not allowed to use anything different then the track itself. The driver is allowed to go wide
to gain more speed on the straight, but not by driving off the track.

Race
Penalties
Points penalties will be given after the race. In a race, the Race
Direction can decide to give a driver a Drive-Through (DT) or Stop&Go (SG)
penalty. A DT or SG penalty should be completed withing 3 laps of the current lap. If a driver does not complete a DT withing 3 laps, he will
be given a SG penalty. If a driver does not complete a SG penalty
within 3 laps, he will be given a Black Flag (meaning disqualification).

- If a driver is given a DT or SG in lap 1, the driver will have to go into the pits in lap 3.
- If a driver is given a DT or SG at the end of lap 1, while the driver passed the pit entry, the driver will have to go into the pits in lap 4.

But the lap to come in will be given during the race.Disconnects
When a driver disconnects, the driver is alled to rejoin the race. The laps will be counted as the lap where there driver was in while the disconnect happened, -1 lap. So if a driver disconnects at lap 39, the driver will re-enter the race at the beginning of lap 38. Blue flags
When a driver gets a blue flag, he needs to give room to the driver
behind as soon as he gets the chance. Drivers who ignore a blue flag
can get a Drive-Through or Stop&Go penalty. During qualifying, a
driver may have his fastest laps taken away by the Race Direction.FormatSign-up
RegistrationTo take part every driver will have to register to.... to take part in the league. The league driver also has to sign up to the events itself.There will be one race every two weeks, except between the Test Race and league
races, starting the 9th of august.

Qualifying
Every driver must uploaded an hotlap time set at a given track
with the Formula V8. The fastest 30 drivers at the deadline will enter
the league competition.

Qualifying
Qualifying will be 20 minutes long, and start at 20:00 CEST (18:00 GMT
/ 19:00 BST) Every driver will have 9 laps to complete. When 20
minutes are over the drivers may still finish their current flying lap.
The drivers are allowed to chat during qualifying. So it is recommended
for the qualifying drivers to block messages (- button).


Race
The race will start at 20:30 CEST (18:30 GMT / 19:30 BST). Every drivers starts from the place they qualified on, except when the race
Race Direction decides otherwise.

Incidents
Every driver should at least drive 90% of the race distance to obtain
points. Every drivers has one T-car (shift+p) available. However, when
a crash occurs, they are not allowed to shift+p untill the Race Direction
tells them to. Also will there be no resetting. When a crash incident
occurs in the first 3 laps involving 40% of the cars there will be a race restart. The crashed drivers will have to start last.

Chatting
Also is there no chatting allowed during the races! Chatting will cause a Drive-Through/Stop&Go/points penalty, decided by the Race Direction.

Points 1st place
20 points
2nd place
15 points
3rd place
12 points
4th place
10 points
5th place
8 points
6th place
7 points
7th place
6 points
8th place
5 points
9th place
4 points
10th place
3 points
11th place
2 points
12th place
1 point

If you have a question, please ask them here. Other people might have the same question. If you have a personal question about the please contact us by e-mail. The address is given here:
http://fv8.cyxian.nl/links.htm

Questions about the sign-up can be placed here:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=28344

Questions about the schedule can be placed here:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=28342

People must sign up using the drivers page of the FV8 Racing Series website.
http://fv8.cyxian.nl/drivers.htm

All signed up drivers will be on there.

- Real name
This option is there because we want people to use their real names in-game. This will add to the realism and should make people less anonymous, motivating them for fair driving.

- License name
I think this option is pretty clear. We want to know the license names from all the drivers. That helps us seeing who is who.

- Team name
This option is optional. If you don't have a team, you don't have to fill in anything. Maybe you can team up with someone. But you will have to do this yourself. And if you find a teammate, please let me know so I can change it. People without a team can't race for the Team-points.
Two drivers are allowed max per team. If you do have a team with more then two drivers, just fill in your team and let me know who will race with who, or fill in your team name with a number behind it if you already decided who is gonna race with who. For example "FV8 Racing (1)".

- E-mail address.
Please note that this will not be made public. I want that to be clear. I am the only person who will see the email addresses, and I will only use them if there's a very important development with the league. After the league is over, all the addresses will be deleted.


Signing up for Test Race or full league

If you only want to drive the Test Race, just sign up at the website. If you only want to drive the league races, or all races, also sign up at the website. Before every race there will be a thread opened for signing up per race.

I hope this makes everything clear. If you have any question about signing up, please ask them here.

Last edited by Darkone55, Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:35.

There are a few ideas I'd like to discuss with you:

First idea is the wind option. Do you think we should use wind? Personally I think it will add much to the racing. Every lap will be different, and drivers need to be more carefull. However, I haven't tested the wind option very well with the FO8. Since it is not the easiest car there is, it might be too hard for some. If there will be wind, it won't be heavy wind tho.

Second, I was thinking about not allowing shift+p (instant pitting). When a crash occurs, a driver is not allowed to pit instantly. Other drivers will have to avoid the wrecked cars. And if 40% of the field crashes, the Race Direction may decide there will be a restart, with the crashed cars starting at the back of the grid.

Some things that are already decided:
- The reset option will be off.
- No forced cockpit, every user is allowed to use the view he likes. Although we don't recommend the chase view.

Please vote twice: for the wind and for the instant pitting. And explain your votes in this thread.

Oh, and please.. Only for the people who actually race..

Last edited by Darkone55, Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:08.

Last edited by Darkone55, Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:02.

You're right about the swearing, I agreed with it, that's true.

But I tried to drive some kind of race, so I don't have to wait 15 min for a restart. And finding an empty space is just impossible. When I finally seem to have a bit of empty road in front of me, someone appears when I come out of the first corner. The next corner there's still someone who spun, the corner after that people are fighting for places..

If the system would let me join before the 2nd lap, I could have driven away from the front few drivers and have an empty road.. At least for 3 laps or so...

A qualifying lap was what I tried to do, before I got crashed out. I say in this case it's the fault of the system, because I know it wasn't on purpose. But the fact was that it flipped my car and I wasn't able to finish the race, to let my qualifying lap count. In the last lap....

This system is just bad man...

Today I went racing at FOX / As1r. I immidiatly started in front..? Appeared I had the fastest lap, yea, set in a previous life...

When you crash out in lap one, you can't rejoin. Resulting I have to go through the whole field.. Then I get spammed blue flag and stuff all over the place. I can't even see where I'm going!!

Then I drive the fastest time, so, yay, I think I'll start in front. No way, I got crashed out in the last lap, and my laptime didn't count. I'm saying "well, that's great, my laptime doesn't count because some **** crashed me out". And I get banned for saying ****. Maybe it's not polite, but this is just crazy.....

Lovely, lovely movie Don! Really great. Nice music too. Sigur Rós at 4:15. I wonder what music it is at 1 minute...

Btw, those skies. Great! How did you do that?

Dear Victor,

Together with Josh Di Fabio, I am organising the "Formula V8 Racing Series".
The website is up and running, and the Sign-up is open.

http://fv8.cyxian.nl
So far 6 people registered, after a day.

I've been talking to some experienced league organisers. I have good trust in it.

Would it be possible to have a section under the Leagues & Events section called "Formula V8 Racing Series"?

Thanks in advance,
Darkone

Last edited by Darkone55, Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:37.

Hello!

Let's introduce myself and my league first.

I'm Darkone, real name Bas Bouma, and I am going to host a new FO8 league. Some may know me from the forums or online racing.

The Formula V8 Racing Series will start August 9 with a Test Race. Two weeks after that Race 1 of the league starts, at August 23.
The Test Race will take place at Aston North, a great circuit to race on. Especially in the FO8. There will be 30 experienced drivers racing eachother. When 30 drivers have signed up, there will be a qualifying. I'm not telling the circuit yet, that might be unfair. More information about this will be given later.

The qualifying of the race itself will be 20 minutes long. After these 20 minutes, the drivers who are still on their flying lap may still finish their flying lap. Every race of the season will finish the first lap over 180 km. In the case of Aston North this will be 182,0 km, with a total of 35 laps.

For more info check out our website:
http://fv8.cyxian.nl/

The sign-up is now open at our site!

Please read it carefully.

Thanks to the help of F1RST Racing and spdoRacing, with Josh Di Fabio we can make this happen.

I hope to see you on track the 9th of August. Good luck!

Bas Bouma
Race Direction
Formula V8 Racing Series
Fair Racing First