If you are bored of the Demo, LFS is not for you!!!
Most of us who bought LFS did so because we loved the demo and wanted more....not because we got bored with it.

Also, why do people think LFS can be gotten for free just by asking?
Try going to any other game forum (WoW for example) and beg someone to buy you the game. Let's see how fast you get removed from that forum.

Fully agreed with Dark.
For the time being simply try to learn the lines and exits. As you progress, start experimenting with fast in as well.
Also, in LFS there is no general set rule to anything as quite often your are adjusting your cornering, speed, etc to the enviroment (other drivers, tire wear, etc)

Good luck and make sure you match your g25 steering to the ingame one as this will give the the best feel and control.

Brock chatting is simply amazing.
It just proves that in order to be a good driver in RL, one needs to be a complete psycho without any regard to danger, death or pain (or the teams money).

I was never that relaxed racing in the SCCA. (and I was going MUCH slower in the S2000)

Quote from Electrik Kar :

Here's one from a while ago. It summarises all the main points..

http://www.firingsquad.com/har ... phics_preview/default.asp

Thanks, great read.
It seems the only drawback currently is that most game devs are still coding the "old" way but with patience, that is sure to change soon so we shoud starts seing devs making use of the reworked system.

Now I'm convinced that once Vista matures, it's very well capable of becoming a very good OS for gamers. Sadly it still feels a bit beta.

Thanks for the link again.

Does someone have a link to a decent article (a NON MS document) summarizing the main differences between DX9 and 10 and the benefits of 10.
I'd like to find out more about the tech part of it but most I found was MS ads type of articles.

Thanks in advance.

@wheel4hummer and Jakg
Can you two please stay civil about this. Especially you Wheel. I have nothing against either of you so don't take this as an insult. I just think there's no need for hostilities.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I put a DX10 card in the PC I assembled in April, and I installed XP on it.

Do you get full support? E.G. does everything work including DX10 software? If so, that makes Vista even less necessary.

BTW, what card is it?

Longhorn looked damn impressive with all the new ways of doing stuff.
It even looked better then many flavors of *nix as well as then current version of OSX.
However, once they filtered all the potentially good stuff out, vista is what we get.
I HAVE used vista briefly.....6 weeks or so. I have to say it looks very nice.

But here's what I have issues with.
There is an app called desktop X with is an XP to vista morph.....same old code, vista looks and eye candy. And while it uses a large amount of resources to run, it STILL uses less then Vista in it's native form. I know it's not a fair comparison, but if all we get from Vista is eye candy, we might as well emulate it under XP and retain driver and hardware support.
Also, I'm not bashing Vista as I truly wish for a MS OS to become something good (even better then XP Pro). However, until MS starts building an OS for functionality first and eye candy second, we wont see it anytime soon.
BTW, I was one of those people that really liked XP once it came out. It wasn't as good as today but it did beat anything from MS before that (nice balance between NT stability with added eye candy). XP has also become so tweak-able in both looks and feel, that possibilities seem endless. There's only one thing Vista has over XP; DX10. But if you don't have a DX10 card, do you really have a need for Vista?

Just my morning ramble.....filter as you go

Quote from arco :

And where did you read that? Have you ever tried Vista?

Feel free to enlighten me on how it works and I'll gladly stand corrected. Until then....

Quote from wheel4hummer :

*nix kicks Windows ass. I only have 1GB of ram, and I can run httpd, ftpd, sshd, sqld, smbd, gdm, firefox, a few text editor windows to play around in C, Python, or assembly, and still have 200MB of ram left. Debian specifically is the most efficiant OS I've ever used.

Indeed, Debian has to be by far the most efficient OS in terms of memory and CPU.

Vista preloads (dedicates ram) to apps you might use sometime during your on time. Sounds dandy til you realise what that software is. 90% is MS junk (media player, IE, etc) and the other 10% is what it gathers from your frequent usage.
I personally don't need my software to load fast...software I use CAN NOT be loaded fast as it's very complex and requires a lot of processing power as well as ram. I just need my software to be able to use as much of my RAM as it needs ONCE I use it. (software in question is Adobe creative suite, 3d Max, LinoColor drum scanner software/module, and other stuff I use for living). My solution for this is OSX.
However, whenever I needed to use XP Pro, I was able to tweak the system to run as I wanted it. Not sure how possible that is with Vista so I can't comment but people that have tried sure don't sound happy.
I'm sure Vista will get better with time but so will Linux. For those like me that need the OS to work right NOW, Vista isn't my cup of Joe.

I hate to be a pain but how do you justify having your OS use 511MB to run itself and a browser? Under any normal circumstances that should be less then 200 TOPS unless I'm misunderstanding the way Vista deals with memory.

While I have never noticed less traction It's also the favorite track of mine so I might be biased. Also, any road car as well as the Fox and LX's are just great on SO. GTR needs a bit more space IMO so proper tracks are more suitable. Just tweak your set accordingly and you should be fine. (FYI I use my BL set for the xrg on SO with great results, so I guess it's not really that big of a difference.)

Quote from CSU1 :

mac's are great for documents is all, my gf uses one and it don't even got a fan. Its shite for anything else, and paid through the nose for it too.

IMO the mac is a tool for the office and does it well, normal notebooks are too bulky and in a sense just do too damn much(too much goes wrong)...all the extra gingles that come on standard intel/windows notebooks just makes for a bulkier overworked gingle box, if I had bought the gf the same notebook as me I would have no doubt whatsoever that she would be wrecking my head every day to fix stuff on it.

With the mac its different, you plug it in and it just does it in a primative but user friendly way....but dont rely on any sort of excitement from it lol...is just for excel documents and webby surfingIMO blah blah blah...

You do realize that OS X, or any Apple OS ever made in the past, has been intended for quite the opposite. If it's charts, Office and the web you desire, windows is the way to go.
I've been a mac user for quite a long time (as I need it for my line of work) and it's close to perfect OS in terms of all things creative.
No fuss, you never think about the OS itself nor about stability.
It let's you use almost every bit of your hardware to accomplish the task at hand rather then waste a gig or two on looking pretty.

I'm no fanboy by any terms as I believe that one should not need to limit oneself to one single OS. I use OS X for design, Pre-press and photography post processing, XP Pro for gaming and debian for coding/fun.

In terms of MS windows, the best OS I've ever used is XP pro as it's as stable as Win OS gets without being hungry for your resources (at least after some mild tweaking).
Vista looks great but thats been it for me. When it manages to look great AND do it's job I'll gladly delete my XP pro partition.

IMO, any OS needing close to a gig just to exist is beyond me.

I agree with the OP and even more so with mrodgers (I think :P )

Chicanes are a great technical part to any RL track. However, the ones in LFS simply either serve no speed/tech purpose or they do it in such a wrong way that they cause a rather nasty section rather then force people to concentrate.

IMO, most LFS tracks are simply too fast (with the exception of SO) and require little to no tech driving. All they require is rinse and repeat "perfect" corner entry.
One good example of a good section in LFS is SO town course rev; the downhill before the chicane. Even the best pros can have a dificult time taking that one the way they want time after time. That IMO is the beauty or racing. Not the chase for a PB we see on so many other tracks.

Racing with tricky cars, such as the LX's and the RAC, makes the tracks a bit more challanging but it's simply not enough.

As long as there aren't any negative licence drawbacks for the yellow count, I'm fine with it. However, I've had the system pull a yellow on me on fast corners that I took really fast so it does have some issues. I don't believe the issues lie withint CTRA since, as Becky said, it only registers the LFS flags so theres nothing CTRA can do about it short of removing the flag record.

To all the stat lovers...I'd suggest you do what most people do....race to race, not to look good on paper.

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Well, I am only 16, so that is part of the reason I don't know much. I have only been programming for 5 years or so. And, I haven't taken an IQ test before except those online ones, which aren't scientific enough.

Once you hit puberty IQ goes WAY down due to obvious reasons and doesn't return to a normal state until you turn 45 ish :lovies3d:

I'm obviously just kidding.
A high IQ means nothing more then the ability to process complex information at a fast rate. It doesn't make you smart or dumb. It just gives you the ability, with enough mental training and education, to be a bit "smarter" then the average bear.
I have an IQ of 147 according to a medical test done when I was 22 (26 now). I have graduated college without ever touching a book, aside from the books I read for either fun or sociology papers and managed to graduate with a 3.7 GPA average (it cerainly wasn't an easy school). I also speak 4 languages; 2 were learned out of need and the other 2 I simply liked.
So it would suggest that the higher IQ CAN help in terms of effort needed to accomplish tasks.
However, my brother who's IQ was rated @ 120 is a pure genius working as a scientist for a contracting government company (one of the nuclear programs he's forbidden to chat about). While he's always had to work hard to get tasks done, his dedication makes him much more able and effectively smarter in the real working world.
In other words, there are many more factor besides IQ levels that make a person "smart" and intelligent.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Eh...You are VERY wrong.

You dont need the same amount of points for every licence. The points needed increase as the licences go higher.

I have no idea where you got that theory.

Lol, my bad.
Well it I have 268 points on my CTRA License which is 89%.
I also have 64 points on Single Seater which is 21%.
Both correspond to a 3 point per percent system. As I'm so low in points and licenses, I wasn't aware that the points required increase.

Thanks for correcting me. However, my theory still stands for going for bronze and Nat'l B
Not that it matters to me as I race the CTRA servers purely for fun and a challange but I believe it would be usefull to release a official chart explaining the point system as I see no reason to keep it secret or a riddle.

Just to clear up the point percent bar system for those wondering.
3 points is one percent.
One bar in game is 5.5 percent or 16.5 points.

So you need 300 points for each licence stage.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

chances are victor won't be able to help you. Even if he does, it will still take longer to get online then if you do it electronically.

Not sure about Netherlands, but in most countries nowadays you can buy a prepaid money card (like a credit card) and use it for virtually anything you'd use your credit card for. That should be the fastest way possible to get your unlock.

Good luck and welcome.

With the option turned off, the camera follows the center of the car (driver seat i believe but I'm not sure). Then you turn it on, it follows the front wheels and rotates perfectly with the car. This is to help people steer in chase view.

To try it out, take a car and using chase view do one doughnut with the option on, then another with it off. you will see the difference.

Quite a nice and simple idea. Hope your request is heard.

Quote from Decubal :

well the game is working fine now, u just need to unlock
or did i missunderstand you?

There are isses with unlocking if you recover your folder during the format process. The game works fine but the unlocking is the issue.
Thats why I pointed out that if you saved you old LFS folder and are trying to use it, reinstall a fresh new copy of LFS.

You should get some sleep though

I hope you didn't recover your LFS folder when you formated as that will NOT workin 90% of cases.
Just making sure you're in need of unlock rather then a fresh install

I'm fully aware of that as most game demos function this exact way. (Mostly FPS games as well as many sims) This is also the main reason for the small file sizes of game demos/replays.

However, it's very possible to include a reverse function, although additional coding needs to be done to the engine. The way games like Nexuiz do it (a DP based FPS) is the utilize a # of frames forward and back buffer. While it increases CPU load, it allows the user to go back at a set pace (the pace that the CPU and engine need to process the additional frames) which is roughly 1x rewind (e.g. no speedup option).

A simpler way is to call a time in the replay which would get processed and then replayed forward eliminating the need to restart the replay to get to an earlier frame. (there would be slight buffer time which would depend on the users processing power)

Another way to simplify the whole process is to execute replays as a forced set of events and eliminate the physics engine from them. by doing this, the replay stops being a re-enactment since the game only displays the position of the objects without any forces being applied to them.

Last edited by gohfeld23, Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:10.

If the devs would only include rewind code in the next patch, this program would make searching for events in replays a breeze.

Great work.

Simply install a copy for each partition and unlock both.
Downside of this is that whatever you download or create for one will be missing from the other (skins, sets, spr/mpr, etc)
A simple copy paste solves that as well.