Animation No 2 is more visible but I think the brushes do not move like that in real life?
As far as I have see, the arms only move to better follow the gutter or to get around obstacles.
Maybe there is an extra wiggle-mode if a specific spot needs to be cleaned (like oil spill or glass?) but I have never seen a sweeper operate like that.
But it looks funny so both animations are okay for me.

Maybe some colore elements like this would make the rotation even more visible?

source: https://balaisnomad.com/en/piranha

The front pillars of the cockpit seem quite thick.
Usually in such vehicles they are as thin as possible to provide best visibility, also to the sides. (Compare to Flame's picture)

Some specs from Volvo website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071022144322/http://volvo.com/bus/global/en-gb/products/city+buses/chassis/Volvo+B7R/specifications+E3.htm

Gross weight (GVW): 18 metric tonnes
Steering angle: 50 degrees
Output: D7E290, 213 kW, 1200Nm

The mod is too light and has too much power.

Is that a mod?
Did you look at https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods ?
What is the exact name, forum search find no reference to a "Pro2" mod.
This one is has 02 in its name, maybe you mean that:
https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/BC858B

Quote from michal 1279 :

I'm not sure if real life pit limiter would use brakes to slow the car down though, I think this would probably happen irl as well.

I looked at aftermarket pit limiters that I found in random shops on the internet.
None of those mentioned the use of brakes, all just limit throttle position or engine RPM.
For professional motorsport I found nothing clear in any rules, however several websites say something like "The limiter only prevents the car accelerating beyond that speed once it's already below it."

I think tweaking the control loop does not solve this.
The car can only slown down at a certain rate from friction etc.
If the acceleration from a slope or wind (or spinning tires suddenly gaining grip) exceeds that rate then there is nothing that the system can do, no matter how fast or soon it closes the throttle.
Only a larger safety margin would help for some situations. (limit to 78km/h instead of 79.xx or whatever)
If the downward slope is long and steep enough then some vehicles might always exceed the speed limit.

random fun fact from F1 rulebook:

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One gear change is permitted after the race or sprint session has started and before the car
speed has reached 80km/h, provided every gear fitted to the car is capable of achieving at
least 80km/h at 15,000rpm.

With some cars in LFS it is popular to adjust the 1st gear ratio so that it will reach a topspeed just under the speed limit. (79.9 km/h)
According to real life F1 rules that trick would be illegal.

cute. rotating brushy brushes please!

The main advantage of better/newer wheels is in my opinion that they have more rotation. That feels much more realistic.
My first FFB wheel was a Logitech Momo (somewhat comperable to Driving Force EX?), then Logitech G27.
Both still work okay, never had to repair anything.
The G27 feels much more robust. Especially the pedals are much better, more travel range and just overall better quality.
The Fanatec wheel of a friend feels even better. I think with wheels it also depends a bit on luck, like with any hardware. One lose part can "break" it but sometimes it is a relatively easy fix. (like glue in a loose potiometer)

Quote from rane_nbg :

There is indeed the most time and organization involved for league and other events, however, those are at best on a 1 week basis. There you will see only the best and most dedicated LFS drivers and for a new racer, there is not much fun, even if one manages somehow to get passed the qualifying session.

I think it depends, often there are some slower and more casual drivers at the end of the grid.
Why would qualifying be a problem? Some events require minimum laptime (like 107% rule in F1) but that is rare. Just ask in chat or forum for a setup, practice a bit and be aware of cars around you. I would not overthink it.

Regarding translation, there is
3a_rtiosort "ratio" which I assume means power-to-weight-ratio.
To me, just "ratio" seems a bit vague/confusing because it raises the question "Ratio between what numbers?"
Maybe it is clear from the context of the GUI.
"power-to-weight-ratio" would be self-explaining but it is a long word.

German translation would be "Leistungsgewicht" which I believe is the correct technical term and has a clear meaning.
However it does not fit by one letter.
Now I put "Verhältnis" (="ratio") but in german that sounds even more vague to me than the english version.

Quote from Scawen :

I suppose most of the things you mention (jobs/repairs/trade of items) could be done using fixed prices (...)

It would not be the same gameplay experience. The interesting thing is that players can do business with eacher, in whatever ways they please. It is not limited to a handful of scripted fixed options.
Such economics naturally develop in many multiplayer games.

Here is a video about a famous example:
Elite is an multiplayer space simulation. Players can be traders, pirates, explorers, fight each other or form alliances and so on. Importantly, you can run out of fuel and be stranded in some empty corner of the galaxy. So some players formed a guild named "Fuel Rats" whose service is to rescue such stranded pilots by bringing them fuel. Over time things got much more complex, for example even the most "evil" space pirates do not shot at the ships of Fuel Rats because they became so respected.

Such system was never intended by the developers, it developed naturally through player interaction. I think it is an interesting video about such ingame economics and what fascinates players about it.



On the other hand, trading ingame-money for real-money is always a bad thing. It is bad for the gameplay and people.
Often you have people in poorer countries "farming" ingame-items that are bought by richer gamers.
It is also impossible to prevent and it has some edge cases.

However, it should be possible to prevent account-sharing through technical means.
(ip-logging and so on)

Quote from hsvdin0 :

if accounts are rented and people earn TC Cash and sell it to other users to earn real money they can eventually buy their own, NEW LFS license (stonks for our bike-boy and Victor vV).

I doubt that many people eventually buy new licenses.
Most people likely share accounts simply they can play for free.
Maybe someone can do the math:
How many hours do you need to play until you have enough TC-money to buy a LFS license?
How does that compare to working a normal average job?
How does LFS license price relate to all the other stuff needed to play? (computer, internet, controller hardware)

good job mixing the screen recording with real world wheel

Those LFS logos on random items are awesome.

I love going through those 1€-stores and just looking what kind of useless stuff they sell. Sadly not too much funny knock-off stuff here, maybe german laws are too strict.

There is LFS Record: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/72001

please change class from "saloon car" to "object"

When this mod was reviewed and published, there was information about the 3D model and a link to sketchfab. That is now missing, it should be added back.

Hi,
I think LFS does not support that because I do not see it listed on the Logitech website.
I am unsure what Trueforce is: Is it just about the refresh rate or it about pre-programmed effects?

Logitech writes:

Quote :

Most racing wheels still operate on 20-year-old force feedback technology, where forces and vibrations are created from a selection of profiles and a limited library of haptic effects.

As far I understand, LFS has never used a "library of haptic effects" for FFB anyway.
Instead it calculates the amount of torque at the steering column. Since the tires, suspension movement etc is simulated anyway, the steering force is basically calculated as some kind of by-product. Then that is send to the FFB wheel.
I think no somewhat serious sim uses such "canned effects" anymore, the Logitech text seems a bit wrong there. (well, it is an ad afterall)

You can try with the demo if the FFB works in general. I would assume yes.

I just noticed this car on the livestream. It seems something is wrong with the shadow, looks like the bottom does not cast a shadow?

Quote :

Alternativelly maybe only approved status cars as they should fulfill highest standards

Maybe limit it to "Staff Pick" cars, currently 14.
Or maybe just pick from that pool, not add all at once.

There is also the question of tracks, not every car/bike is suitable for every track.
With official cars there was only the distinction that some cars could not be hotlapped on rallye or Westhill karting.
With mods, now there are some very low-powered slow cars/karts. It might make sense to limit their hotlapping to suitable short twisty tracks. (Hadraplan on Oval is as useless as GTR on Kart tracks)

Quick note to avoid future disappointment:
This has the same problem has your/vobla32's BMW mod. ( https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/106031-PAC-007IL )

None of the screenshots work as evidence how you created the model.
The blueprint is literally just the blueprint - that alone demonstrates nothing.
Screenshots of random floating car parts that mean nothing. Those could be created by legit modeling or just extracted from a ripped model, there is no way to tell.

Bose321 made a "Sumo" gamemode like ten years ago, with shrinking arena. Basically that was Battle Royale before shooters like PUBG made it popular.

your images are tiny with large white areas around them. (the UF1 too)
Try some free software like Irfanview and crop-function.

Quote from kelekreis :

We just wanted to exchange an account with a friend. The friend wants the money first and I want the account because I can't trust that person, he's not someone I know.

I think in such situation you can buy a S3 voucher code.
You buy the code, it is a key-code that can be used to unlock S3. (Like a CD-key)
When the other guy has given you the money then you send him the code.

https://www.lfs.net/shop/voucherselect

Quote :

If you want to help a friend who cannot buy an LFS license for some reason, or if you would like to give someone an LFS license as a gift, you can buy a voucher code here.

Add it to the front page as well?
Either to the 0.7E news article or as separate item.
On the forum it is a bit hidden.

Yes, I have been updating the german translation.
GP4Flo and Limiter are not active anymore, so having a second german translator might be good.

Those strings are not yet translatable though.

Quote from PbFOOT :

Hello All,
I joined in 2009, played a bit but got sidetracked with life. Now, I'm back, with all the time and money in the world! So, after carving my initials in lots of guardrails, I will begin racing as I intended 14 years ago. I would appreciate any suggestions on wheel/pedal setups. I have a cheapo Logitech Momo racing G25. I build a tube steel frame to mount a seat, monitors and controls. I just need help choosing what to stuff it with and what systems work best on this site. Looking to have as much fun as possible before I turn 70. Cheers!

Welcome.
Regarding wheels, there is no "Logitech Momo racing G25."
The "Logitech Momo" and "Logitech G25" are two seperate models, not sure which one you have?
Those are the two wheels I also used and had lots of fun with both.
The Momo is a bit dated by now, with its small turning range of 240° (if I recall correctly) and the pedals feel quite lightweight but are useable.
The G25 is also older but still a good choice. It comes with a clutch and H-shifter which is nice.
The later models are named G27 and G920, I have not used those but I think not much has changed in their construction.
For the brake pedal, sometimes people put in a harder spring, pieces of rubber or a small ball so that the pedal feels stiffer.
There is also the option to modify the brake pedal with a "load cell", so that braking strength works by how hard you push the pedal, instead of how far.
Another popular brand if you are willing to "go up one step", also in price, is Fanatec.
There are also direct-drive Wheels, which give stronger and more accurate feedback but it can get pricey quickly.

If you are into electronic tinkering then you can throw in something like this:


For tripple-screen I had removed the frames on my screens (quite old ones with wide frames) so that I could put them closer together. In graphics options there is a useful setting "bezel compensation" where you can set how wide your screen bezels/frames are.

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Input axes that Rotator and Sliders could be attached to:

Maybe also:
selected gear
For example to animate moving shift lever.
(At least some types. Not sure how to transform "1 to 5" into the two-axis movement of a H-shifter.)

continuous / constant
for example cooling fans that alway spin at same RPM


Is it possible to link moving objects? By attaching them as sub-sub-objects but also by using one as input for the other.
For example an moveable rear wing that on braking moves upwards but also rotates.
That might allow oscillating movement. (Use a rotator as input for a slider to get a circling back&forth motion)

Quote from YukselYilmaz :

*10-) LFS can be open source, so that it can get to the level it has come to in decades in a few weeks. Drivers can agree among themselves to bring the optimization they want.

Open source is does not magically compact a decade of work into a few weeks.
Usually in OS contributors work only on the project in their free time. Rarely does that mean a more than a few hours per week.
People tend to be unreliable, they take long random breaks or quit without notice.
Money is a necessary evil that allows developers to concentrate on LFS instead of working 12 hours per day in a steel mill or coding 850MB sized printer drivers or whatever.

It is also interesting to look at other open source racing games, for example Speed Dreams:
http://www.speed-dreams.org/
It is based on TORCS and if you see that as its starting point then it has been in development longer than LFS.
Speed Dreams is a great project and it even has some features LFS does not have. For example weather or track editor. If I recall, mentioning it due to recent interest: it even has live delta timing!
But in my opinion LFS is overall more advanced and polished.

Regarding bugs and abuse of certain flaws, those do exist in every game.
iRacing has maybe the biggest budget of all racing games and even there players continue to find new exploits like "brake dragging" or "driving on grass."

Quote from CRAAACH :

The fact that he won't care bout this post doesn't means he disregards all the ideas this post tries to sell

The problem was simply that this was originally posted in a Test Patch thread. There is a sticky "Rules" thread and important messages are repeated with big colored letters in first post of current thread. It is nothing to take personal, it has always been that off topic routinely gets removed there.