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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgoFD0E3p2o

wicked escort sound onboard
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Quote from Storm_Cloud :Kimi will get blown away if he joins Alonso at Ferrari. Falling off boats drunk may be sufficient to make everyone apparently love him, but it doesn't make the car go quicker and if I had to pick a driver that Kimi was most similar to then it would be Nick Heidfeld, albeit Kimi's a smidgen faster.

Well I don't really see how "falling off boats drunk" would make the car slower.

In F1 there is perception of reality and then there is the reality. I doubt the two have so much in common. Just because a driver doesn't make a big number of himself and what he does doesn't make him less good.

Maybe Alonso needs to try a new approach with ferrari since his "not falling off boats drunk" approach clearly doesn't work?
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cortinas racing in the wet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0KB_ThyGbU
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Quote from kars19 :The '1955 Belgian Grand Prix' ... pa-Francorchamps circuit.

Wish the film had more sound from the cars. That brutal amazing sound from those engines is just so awesome to listen.
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The new chicane is miles better than the old bus stop in every imaginable way. There is overtaking, there is defending, there is challenge and even after a failed passing attempt you can try to get a good exit. The old bus stop was just a meaningless chicane designed to slow the cars down and it was the one of the worst chicanes ever seen in F1.
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The maldonado incident was just racing incident imho. Maldonado went into the corner with 3 other cars and in the middle of the turns he hits sutil's car with his front wing. So at this moment he thinks his front wing is broken and he doesn't want to drive a full lap with possible broken front wing so decides he needs to pit. Then he simply forgets there is the 3rd car around him (di resta). It was just sensory overload. He had 3 cars around him, he thought he had lost his front wing, he had to do millisecond decision whether to pit or not.

As for perez's penalty I think it was correct. He did not leave enough space. Just because you are in front but the other guy still has some overlap you should not be allowed to push them off the road. I don't really get why this brundle dude seems to have such hard on for these kind of moves. Every time someone is rammed off the road in this manner he thinks it is ok because of the "racing line", "the car ahead can choose his line" and "closing doors" and whatever. It is not long ago when in F1 it was considered inappropriate when the passing car returned back on the racing line after a pass in front the passed car because it took lots of downforce away from the car behind. But now you can just ram them off the road after you get your nose ahead... Right call to give perez the penalty.
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Maybe the pic was done by some australian.
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The world would be just so much better if everyone spoke esperanto. No need to learn zillion different languages when you could learn just one.
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Well leaving mclaren seems to be working well for senna... I mean hamilton.
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Well rbr might be the only team that would allow rallying for kimi. Lotus won't ever allow it because of what happened to kubica, ferrari would not allow it even if kimi wouldn't ask permissions. Mclaren would not allow it. Hell, even merc, force india nor sauber would not allow it. But rbr might allow it and I'd imagine it is defenately one of those small things that can make a difference if two options are otherwise close.

Quote from sinbad :Isn't Kimi basically the best number 2 driver in the world right now? Okay so he's second in the championship (and who wouldn't want to see him take it from Vettel), and his team-mate is the talented but flawed Grosjean, so by default he's their number 1, but really his consistency and perhaps slightly cautious approach is what every team want from their number 2 driver. What is it 29 consecutive top ten finishes (in the points)?

The other top teams would kill for that, especially Ferrari, whose emotional attachment to Massa is probably the only reason he's still there this season.

The problem with consistency records is that they are almost completely defined by the car and sheer luck and not the driver. I would not read too much into the race finishing consistency simply because it is really difficult to finish outside of top ten when you have top3 car. Without checking I'd claim that there are many drivers in F1 who could have that kind of record if their car hadn't broken down or someone hadn't crashed them out.
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Quote from flymike91 :try playing LFS with a 360 controller and you can see why the steering is not linear when using a pad. Imagine going full lock in less than a tenth of a second at 150MPH. You can't do it in a real car, are you asking for that feature in GT6?

You don't even begin to understand what here is the topic. Do you even understand what steering ratio means? Do you understand that steering lock can be linear or nonlinear and it can also be adjustable in sensitivety by ratio and speed? By reading what you wrote you need to do some learning because no one here is talking about pads.
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No, the kaz gtr is really really bad. I don't think gran turismos have had that unlinear steering before. In gt5 the formula cars have odd steering (or the odd steering is more easier to spot in those cars) but other cars are fine and feel very linear. There could be little unlinearity of course as it is very hard to tell if the steering is linear or almost linear but basically this much unlinearity makes the car undrivable for me. The unlinearity is mainly what killed forza 4 for me (plus the sucky online system) and gt5 was always fine for me and I never really noticed any unlinearity (apart the formula cars).
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So pd added the "kaz gtr" into the academy demo and you can drive the silverstone in it. And they also added forza steering (or iracing unlinear steering) into that. My GOD of deers and cows and all things with horns the steering is absolutely shit in that car! Basically going into turn and getting out of turns it is impossible to tell how much steering I need. It reminds me so much about the riley in racing when it came out and I took days to get the steering adjusted to bearable in that thing. And now they bring that trash into gt... So massively disappointed.

If this car is a sign of things to come in regards to gt6 I won't ever never buy it. It completely ruins the car.
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I think he actually did not go. So he had time in the middle of the day for the drinking games.
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :People already don't drive cars like the LX6 and FO8 because they're too difficult. The LX8 would be even less used. It would need to actually have a proper GTR version of it with downforce, not just take the current LX6 and add slicks and a V8. That would be the "bad" way to do an LX8.

No slicks and no aero and a big power would be the best lx8 version I can think of. Some years ago we did some races with a tweaked lx cars, one was high revving straight 6 and another was big and heavy v8:
http://i44.tinypic.com/wjb8ub.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/noekab.png

We used to drive really tight circuits with added corners and chicanes so we wouldn't mess up our lx6 times but the high revving version certainly was awesome car to drive imho. The heavier car would have been nice as well but it needed different kind of setup than the lighter one and I don't think we did all that much changes to the setup so it drove a bit like a old muscle car...

Imho the best kind of lx8 would be to have just more power higher revving NA engine like the lx6. No slicks and no aero. Make it kind of what caterham r500 is like.
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :Well it appears that Red Bull have already got the "Make Kimi go Faster" mod onto the car.


Haha that is hilarious
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Quote from JazzOn :... but there is no reason LFS can't be as good.

Seriously? Do you live in 2006 or 2013?

Quote from JazzOn :Fact is, we don't know what they've worked on.

The fact is we don't know if they have been working on anything for the last 7 years. It is not wise to try to build this massive "wait" into some huge expectations when the reality at the moment is that you are not going to get anything at all.

Quote from JazzOn :Its a raw simulation, while others try to cut corners in different (and essential) aspects

Now, that right there is nothing more than pure fanboyism.
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I think the situation would be totally different and much better if only the devs had enabled the community to create tracks. The devs could have focused on cars, physics and gameplay. Eric could have focused on whatever he focuses on nowadays. The sim would be fresh and it would have stayed fresh and up to date and competitive with other sims. There is absolutely no doubt whatsover that we wouldn't for example have laser scanned content in lfs if we would have addon tracks.

And before anyone says we don't want trillion bad tracks. I think lfs tracks are already well below average compared to what is considered average in rfactor for example. Having community created addon tracks would have not only increased the quantity of tracks and the amount of content in lfs expotentially but also the quality!

But the time has passed the point. I don't think lfs can be saved anymore. It's too late for literally anything. Does anyone even care anymore?

The fact is lfs development has been dead for years. I think the devs have moved on. And it shows. The content is from 2005 and the game is from 2006. That's 7 years without any new content (well couple of cars). Even netkar pro has gotten more patches and improvements during that 7 year time frame than lfs.

But that is not a bad thing. The positive thing is the "sim world" is now in a hell of lot better situation than it was in 2003-2006. We have many good sims and more is the on the way. And unlike 2003-2006 there are alternatives that are better in every single way. It is no longer choise of pretty cars and crappy physics or lfs. It is not even a choise anymore. Everything out there is better.

I personally wish lfs devs the very best in future. I got my moneys worth from s2 but I'm a bit sad that lfs died in this way.
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Being wip can mean a lot of things though. The car might not be physics wise ready yet which could mean the setup can be completely bizarre. Depending how detailed the undertray aero is the car can be painful to drive I'd imagine. Or if the diff settings or arb settings are even close to reasonable.

They seemed to be confident enough to show it though which suggests on some level it is representable in some ways about the actual quality of the sim. The car defenately has some strange understeer oversteer moments and the car almost looks like it's going from one physics mode to other at times.

As for physics and video I think you can make some estimations from video about how some sim drives. If it looks very wrong like pcars or if it looks like kinda nice but kinda strange (forza and gt). Or if it looks kind of good at times but bizarre at other times (gpl).

It is relatively easy to tell for example which video shows an onboard lap from lfs, rfactor2 or pcars. Each have their own distinguishable handling characteristics. Lfs looks really smooth, flexible, the cars yaw a lot and there is no snap moments when going from neutral to oversteer for example. It looks extremely controllable. Rf2 is very nervous on the limit and it shows as well. Pcars kinda glides and yaws in a strange way that is almost like a combination of understeer and four wheel drift but you can't really tell from the video if it is either one.

The ac looks a bit like pcars to me. Not very good. But it would have to be extremely strange if kunos has found a way to go backwards from his nkpro tire model which is defenately quite good. The sound is not very good either.
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :The iRent version looks like it's missing the sausage kerbs near the pit straight complex.

iracing has the old silverstone while the ac probably has the new silverstone. That corner is different in the new one and there was no sausage kerb there in the old circuit:
new:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IotCYSDWZ8
old:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUH0oUURkI
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIZq1GyhlaA
GT spec volvo, who would have thought about that
edit: or is that a subaru?
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video of long beach tech version:
http://www.virtualr.net/iracin ... -long-beach-preview-video

I have no idea why they couldn't put some temporary braking markers there...
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Quote from Boris Lozac :From Eric's YT channel..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3TMLystjPE

mid engined XRR in blackwood
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