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Intrepid
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F1 teams coming in and going bust is part of the tradition of the sport. The only problem is that unlike the good ol' days F1 is starting to run out of teams. Also, unlike even maybe a decade or two ago no new team will every be able to compete near the front, even with multiple evolution and incarnations like we have seen with Stewart GP and BAR.

This has been coming for a while. F1's business model is very out-dated.
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Intrepid
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Well no I don't 'proofread' and it looks like neither do you by the looks of it. Words that start sentences are capitalised.

There are no spelling mistakes in my post (Arcadey isn't a real word it's referring to the previous comment). Really, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Intrepid
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Arcadey? That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
Intrepid
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In fear that you are not playing some high-level sarcasm, I must recommend you do not go anywhere near Blackpool

London and its history and shit will keep you more than occupied.
Intrepid
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Hmm....

I reckon you'd be better of visiting Hull

edit: scratch that...live the dream and go Blackpool. It's the UK's version of Las Vegas
Intrepid
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Quote from sinbad :VAE is clearly an anagram of EVA, as in Eva Peron aka Evita, and as such is offensive to Argentina.

Hmm... I don't know. More logically I reckon its more a reference to their arch rivals Brasil. HI VAE - HIVE - Bees - Yellow - Brasil - Argentinian rivals!
Intrepid
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An Alonso win would have done F1 the world of good. There's your answer.
Intrepid
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90% of time the drive on the outside to the approach to a corner does this very simple thing - concedes. That means 90% of the time there are no silly 'incidents'. 90% of the time race drivers aren't stupid.

Reason being the inside car has observable speed and momentum that when you put two brain cells together you know that naturally there car will move across the circuit on exit. You literally learn this when you're about 8. Had T1 had gravel run off now driver would go round the outside there.

Now because of the nature of circuits and tarmac runoff drivers are 'braving' it on the outside a bit more because there is no physical consequence. They get on the radio and basically lie by saying they were pushed off. The problem is they shouldn't have put themselves in that position in the first place. Before you even enter the corner you can figure out where the inside vehicle will be on exit. look at Vergne's moves on Kimi and Bottas. Each time on the exit of the corner he leaves NO room at the exit for the car he is passnig. Should he be punished for that? Each time the drivers conceded. Well they could've just not conceded and drove flat out round the outside and complained to Charlie

You have to be calculated of course. If you think a driver is weak minded and is easy to bully you can stick it round the outside knowing they'll back off. But any driver with an ounce of self respect won't just gift rap you room on the outside. Generally speaking these types of drivers never attempt overtakes anyway and are EXTREMELY easy to defend against
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Intrepid
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Alonso though, he could get away with murder.
Intrepid
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Verge wasn't pushed. Had there been a wall where the white line was he would have conceded the corner before trying to idiotically drive round he outside.

This new breed of tracks with extra run off (even on a street circuit) is developing some weird pussyass racing behaviors.
Intrepid
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Quote from Born2BSlow :Ollie Webb helped with the BAC Mono handling because he is the BAC company's official development driver. Ben Collins and Nick Hamilton regularly post feedback on car handling and tyre behaviour to allow the devs to tune them. I believe what I see and read on the forums, which is the interaction between dev and driver. Rene Rast signed up to WMD as a Sim racing fan and with his latest YouTube video included his setup for people to try out. Maybe like all other WMD members (well the ones who can be bothered and actually get involved) he just wants to share his love of PCARS, SMS have stated he is not paid to do it. You say PR BS, yes it's good PR but I don't think it's BS.

How many other drivers just randomly post very well thought out, well written tweets about a commercial product just because they 'want to'? Come on. Don't be so naive.

If a well known starts Tweeting or Youtubing about a product (I've seen the ones you've referred to) it's almost certainly PR driven. In this case it's PR driven.
Intrepid
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Quote from Born2BSlow :Real life WEC racing drivers using PCars to prepare for real world events and posting videos as well as helping the Devs with the physics and tyre modelling. Physics are coming together now, I do hope people give this a fair crack rather than listening to the loud opinions cited as fact previously posted here.

I hope you all enjoy PCars it really is becoming something quite special.

The posting of videos is nothing more than PR. It is utterly meaningless. And helping the developers with physics? Come on, do you really believe that?
Intrepid
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I don't understand. I like hearing drivers being told how to drive, how to change their style. It gives more insight into the 'process'.

Pointless rule change that will only cause teams to come up with different ways to achieve same results.
Intrepid
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Well, that didn't look staged at all.
Intrepid
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Quote from sinbad :Anyone else think it's not quite as stable under hard braking as it would be IRL? For me, and from what I see in others' vids it takes some sharp wheel work to keep it in a straight line.

For me in general it often feels a little twitchy, as though it's lighter than it is, but also mid corner you still get the wash-out understeer you'd expect from a heavy road car. Not sure I like it overall.

I 'like' it because it means I can get the front pointed into the corner and it suits my style of driving, but it does seem fundementally very unstable over the other cars.
Intrepid
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What part of the move says "ballsy driver"? Nothing. He went for some weird silly move around the outside that only a retard would ever think was possible, half backed out, then lost his front wing. Nothing ballsy, just stupid and weak.
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Quote from amp88 :He was in Bahrain and if he hadn't stood his ground at Spa he probably would have been later in the season. Despite what you think I reckon Hamilton will now think twice before taking it for granted that Rosberg will back out.

he didn't stand his ground in Spa because Hamilton wasn't asking any questions of him. Rosberg didn't 'back out' of anything because he was never IN with a chance of the pass. It's like standing your ground... but you're actually on water. there was no ****ing soil beneath his feet. It wasn't like Hamilton was being aggressive or even mildy testing.

What actually happened was "I'll show him, oh no this is, oh bugger I've cocked up here... errmmm.. woops". he just got VERY lucky he didn't ruin his own race.

Bahrain is irrelevant. And Hamilton still won't think twice about putting a move on Rosberg because all Rosberg has done is prove he is a wimp. He hasn't got he balls to do a proper move.

Rosberg might have gained ground on Hamilton, but like the idiot he is he doesn't realise he is losing ground to Ricciardo, and has lost the team.
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Intrepid
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Quote from amp88 :Rosberg has to try and show that he's not going to stand for being pushed off the track again. It just so happened that this time the contact cut Hamilton's tyre, but that's the luck of the draw. As mentioned above, how many times have we seen similar sort of contact this year without any real impact?

He wasn't pushed off the track. He put his car in a really stupid place that it was inevitable he'd (lightly) hit Hamilton car. That's being stupid. He wasn't 'pushed' off. He was being thick, retarded, stupid... pick any of them.

I've seen drivers do it all the time and it's the most lame limp wristed way to stand up for yourself. Actually, he wasn't really standing up for himself... he was being lame, a pussy, a wimp... whatever you want to call it.

If you're gonna do it.... DO IT. Schumacher? He'd put you in the wall. Senna? He'd literally drive you off the circuit hard. Rosberg? oh, limply try and drive round the outside and take of his own wing and pretend he got pushed off.

There was nothing 'hard' about Rosberg's move. There's nothing to suggest that Rosberg is now a hard racer in that move. It still suggests he's a bit limp.
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Intrepid
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The problem is Hamilton didn't give him any shit. Hamilton didn't do anything aggressive, anything out of the ordinary. Rosberg just looked like a complete pussy. If he wanted to do something to 'make a point' send a large one up the inside sideways like a nutter. Not try a complete pussy move round the outside that only serves to inform Hamilton that Rosberg can't race for shit.

You see it ALL the time. Drivers trying to make a point but make an even bigger dick of themselves. Either do it properly like Senna at Suzuka... or not bother.
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Intrepid
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What some people are suggesting, if they apportion any blame to Hamilton, is that in all cases a car must leave a car's width to the apex and exit, at all times. Basically what is being suggested is that cars go round like they are Scalextric all the time.

I've seen 8 years try what Rosberg did and then get told pretty quickly "don't be an idiot" and generally if they aren't an idiot they don't do it again. If an 8 year old can learn it...
Intrepid
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When the contact happened it should be noted Rosberg had nearly two cars worth of tarmac to avoid Hamilton to his left. There was AMPLE room there. He is either an idiot for not knowing how to race or a genius.
Intrepid
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I could make it look like someone turned on me when I try an impossible move. You have to be an idiot to think that move was ever on. It's not even on in the wet with massive over-lap.
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Quote from Storm_Cloud :So Singapore 2011 must have been totally different then.

Tristan will always put blame on Hamilton. By the way that Singapore incident was 1000000% Hamilton's fault. No fanboyism from me.

Button, Massa and I'd imagine the rest of the grid are all mystified by what Rosberg did. The move was never on. Hamilton would have to be a moronic pussy'ole to leave room.
Intrepid
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Anyone can drive round the outside like an idiot. Doesn't mean the move is on.

If i lunged someone from 100 yards back and didnt brake there would be a point where i am 'side by side' before i smashed into them at 100mph.

Oh dear - case close - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxRG0j5LFVY
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