Quote from danielroelofs :

Well said. Put solid concrete walls right next to the outside of the corner or something, make the fear factor come back into play as well again.

The tracks are hopeless and boring, thanks to mr Thilke. Too computer designed.
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And your average joe racers go through plenty more parts too. Tracks have to survive. Being a car killer isn't the best for business. There's more to motorsport than F1.

I am not a fan of the latest FIA tracks (Tilke works with very restrictive regs) but that's just the nature of the game.

I was being sarcastic! Read what i was replying too!!!!

I think the spec-series choice is to give the series a good financial foundation before they start asking teams and manufacturers to start investing big. Who is going to invest in electronic racing if it turns out to be a massive dud.

Fanboost, makes sense. Motorsport is becoming so far from the minds of young people the series has to engage people in new ways. I don't 'like' it, but Formula E isn't going to be success if it tries to attract orthodox racing fans. There's just not enough about that will want to watch.

They do look slow though. I guess the FIA put in performance limits to make sure GP2, GP3, WSR etc... all remain relevant and viable. If Formula E started lapping close to them speeds suddenly you have a class that all the younguns want to spend daddies millions on.

Quote from danielroelofs :

I don't think Webber was a bad driver. But I do think that those two cars weren't comparable. Besides it is fairly well known by now that Red Bull used quite some 'illegal' stuff on their car. Perhaps they were mostly or only used by vettel to avoid it being obvious when two cars drive around with exactly the same characteristics?

Jacques Villeneuve had an interesting opinion about they way Red Bull is treating Vettel now. He said Red Bull is trying to kill Vettel because he is not good for Red Bull's image. For the Dutchies: Red Bull killing Vettel.
Now i'm not trying to present this as a factual thing. But as I just graduated as a Marketing management specialist, and knowing/seeing how much red Bull leans on marketing, I regard this as possible.

... and this is why I have trust issues with 'educated' people. Well anyone that has to pronounce they have just graduated in whatever course before making a statement.

Yes, RedBull are trying to sabotage their own driver for the benefit of their marketing project. Yes, let's make ourselves look like total dicks so we can look like not total dicks.

Spain in their prime were an astonishing team to watch.

Quote from CSF :

Kimi has been woeful. No one could see that coming though........................

hmmm... https://www.lfsforum.net/showt ... php?p=1819113#post1819113 - i think I did

Well storm cloud was more ont he money https://www.lfsforum.net/showt ... php?p=1819092#post1819092

Quote from Hyperactive :

But you don't design the stages to be risky just for the sake of it.

They organise the rally and choose the routes. Different method, but same result - mega risky corners.

Then don't race, simple as that. I refused to go to a particular track in this country to race for free because I felt the track needed to be improved from a safety perspective.

Quote from Hyperactive :

Driving straight could be lethal if you get it wrong (drag racing). When you design a race track or plan a rally course and then add a jump or corner that is guaranteed to kill or injure the driver or the co-driver if the driver or the co-driver gets it wrong is just plain stupid. Why on earth would you do such thing ion purpose? Only reason for having such jump or corner on the track is to make sure people crash. And when you have enough crashed people get injured and then if you have more crashes people die.

Lack of safety on purpose is just sheer stupidity period.

Every rally has thousands of corners that fit the exact same criteria. Why on earth does anyone let rally drivers go flat out through tree lined gravel roads? If a pace note is wrong you're going head first into a forest. The risk is inherent in the design.

The pace note should read "slow the **** down". If the driver/co driver then take an unnecessary risk then they are solely to blame for the consequences. They are not driving blind.

The thing about rally there's 1000s of corners around the world that could be lethal if you don't get it right. Tree lined stages being casing point.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Agreed.

Rallying (and indeed motorsport in generally) would be shit if we removed all the challenge, difficulty and danger in the name of safety. The competitors WANT some danger and risk.

I think you'd be shocked at how many don't want danger and risk.

Or put it this way... there will be some that object to suggestions of safety improvements.... but when you talk about taking safety provisions away then the reaction is far stronger towards keeping them.

Well, that's my experience in karting. Every step of the way to improve safety improvements have been laughed at and rejected. Yet once they are introduced people overwhelmingly want to keep them. The suggestion that karts should remove pods (like how we raced right up until the 90s) causes accusations of you being barbaric.

England find a way to lose better. Pundits seem happy, fans happy.

Circuit operator needs to not be so stupid and recognise long hair and karts do not ****ing mix. Tie it up.

Newey stepping down from full-on technical director role. Can see why Seb is a bit glum these days.

...or that if you stick around in a series long enough you'll start getting the results.

AC is probably one of the easiest sims I've ever played. It's not hard for being hards sake. But all sims tend to be harder than reality because you have less feedback.

There were a few shouts that Piquet Jn deliberately drove into the wall at Singapore and that was even less likely to be cheating due to the nature of the impact.

Of course Ros knew what he was doing. It was either that or he buckled big time,.

Quote from RandomnessInside :

First points for Marussia!

https://www.lfsforum.net/showt ... php?p=1248726#post1248726

hehe but seriously, great job by Jules.

Quote from Mustafur :

um, he was on a fast lap.

he was a tenth and a bit down (in the sector he had the edge over Lewis) on a lap he knew Hamilton probably had the legs on him.

The issue they have with Monaco is it's so easy to bring out a waved yellow flag that this could be replicated every single year by a driver in provisional pole.

Whether it was on purpose? I don't know. I know he was down on his lap so taking an extra risk had no consequences. You either go faster or bin it and bring out the yellow flag. So maybe he took the risk knowing the consequences of bringing out a yellow flag wasn't THAT big a problem for him. So maybe not deliberate, but he had calculated the consequences I am sure.

There's enough there for a penalty but I wouldn't be surprised if the stewards don't have enough evidence. Reversing probably wasn't the best idea to hide his innocence though. That's what the stewards could get him on regardless of the 'mistake'.

Quote from Mustafur :

I don't think it was done on purpose, but the best possible way to do it, if it was.

There is a small issue (apart form obviously doing it on purpose, albeit more convincing than Schumi's attempt). He reversed the car that 100% guaranteed Hamilton was impeded on his lap. He could have parked it out of the way.

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10 seconds in and already far superior to modern WRC

Quote from Kristi :

I think it's due to the fact that when I was driving Nords in rFactor, I usually crashed around that point of the track and simply went back to pits and all over again. It's indeed not hard to memorize a track, it's just the thing that I didn't do more than 4 laps on the circuit since then doesn't help. Maybe if I drove 10-15 more it would get into my brain a lot easier. Now I'm just tapping blindly out of the memory without driving it.

Ah yes, never reset until you learn the circuit That is a key point.

For me, it's about letting your rain 'do its thing'. Don't worry too much.

Think about it for a moment. How many normal circuits have you memorized? I could probably do the entire F1 grid in my head, 20-30 kart circuits and a whole bunch of others. Maybe a 200 miles or so. if you drove each track successively you could probably do a 100 miles before you even come close to making a wrong turn. That's an astonishing feat and far outweighs learning the Nord.

I think, like others have said maybe compartmentalise the track. See it as three of four separate entities, and just put the laps in. Your brain is much better at memorising stuff like this.

Completely stock, the 458 I can just about nudge under 8 minutes. I am guessing 7-40ish would be optimum.

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