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JCTK
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Quote from JazzOn :no overtaking?

McLaren drivers showed the Red Bulls pairing how to race...

Webber and Vettel both just need to stop being an idiot and it would have been fine...
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Quote from Intrepid :Has to be said that Hamilton looked like he really didn't care if he took Button out at T1 (which he nearly did). Just didn't look happy at all with the team and the fuel call. I think there was some coded message in there from the team about 'not racing' and Button shocked him when he made his move. Fair play to Button for giving it a go, but Hamilton is a nut job so he will push it back.

On the 'incident'. What shall we name it? Turkeygate? Vettelgate? lol Vettel's biggest mistake was his gestures following the crash because that gives an insight into what he really thinks about Webber. It was 100% Vettel's fault, but I can't help Webber should've just conceded because Vettel has a habit of doing weird things when other cars are near him. RBR seem to be makingt he same mistakes as they did in 2009.

and another problem for this year:
the two drivers in the top two teams (McLaren and Red Bull) is so close together this year, a lack of team orders and a number 1 driver could easily lost anyone of them the driver's championship...

but what's for sure, RBR is doing a very good job of stuff that will lose them championships...
JCTK
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and come to think of it, this is the SECOND time Vettel have moved across on someone dangerously this year...
JCTK
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Webber got grilled by the official press conference guy... lol
and that's before the other media get their chance of grilling him even harder~!
JCTK
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Webber face at the press conference looks like a little kid who would be !@$@#$ soon by the teachers/parents/someone more senior... lol
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Quote from Kazu2799 :yeah but webber didint give vettel any room after he had lost the advantage, hamilton and button did thats the difference and thats why its 50/50

he did gave Vettel room... just a car width at that and that's all that he could and should give...

just that usually drivers give their team mates more room than that~
JCTK
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and now Alonso slashed Petrov's tyres while trying to drive round the outside...
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Quote from DevilDare :O really?

This is getting good.

and it's got worse now...

Jensen had his one and only chance, and it didn't stick, and now he's holding position a sec or two behind Lewis...

and now apparantly they are "critical on fuel"~?! Jensen really is rolling off the throtle a good 200m before he hit the brakes~!
JCTK
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the McLarens are giving me a freakin heart attack~!!!
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Quote from Kazu2799 :go watch the replay vettel had the inside and he was infront of webber, that idiot would just not give up on his position. It was really funny to watch though xD

Vettel shouldn't be moving across on Webber...

where as Webber shouldn't be pushing his OWN teammate all the way to the very side of the track...
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Quote from three_jump :Vettel gets the "fail of the race" award

wait till Lewis blasting his tyres and driving into the side of Button before saying "fail of the race"~

but well McLaren had just ordered their drivers to "safe some fuel", aka hold position...
JCTK
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now it's the drivers throwing their 1-2 away all by themselves~?!!!

damn should've changed my dream team to McLaren... lol

Christrian Horner's arm is still shaking cos of his fuming of anger~ lol
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Quote from zeugnimod :OMG, rain possible!

more chance for Lewis to pass the RB, less chance (laps) for him to f his right front tyres up~
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Quote from Timo1992 :Now fail at the pits for Hammi haha

Think Webber will win this

lets see if the McLarens can make a pass out on the track... the RBs seems to be holding them up~
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Quote from Timo1992 :lol on german tv they said webber might have pushed his tyres too hard

thought it would have been the other way round~

just that the McLaren with heavy fuel is plain faster than the Red Bulls at the moment...

but well Vettel jumped Lewis in the pit... lol
JCTK
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11 laps into the race... and I wonder for how much longer Lewis' right front tyre will hold on.

The Merc is holding a big train of cars behind them. And the aim for McLaren and RB must be to build a good enough gap to the Merc before they pit~?

mean while Alonso is trying the trick of pitting very early again and jumping a whole queue of cars with the strategy...
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Quote from Mustafur :Im not really talking about either of those races, more of a combination of both 09 and 2010.

On average He is better then webber in Qualifying pretty convincingly but race pace is about equal if not on Webber's side.

But Red bull are easily the least co-ordinated front running team

I thought Vettel was country miles ahead of Webber in a lot of the races (and before his car broke down anyway)~?
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Quote from JPeace :Oh, maybe I am getting those two mixed up then. But one thing was for sure, Hamilton woulda been on pole had he had a RedBull underneath him imo.

by a country mile too...
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Quote from Intrepid :Roll bar failure for Vettel. Somehow all the bad luck has shifted from Webber to Vettel. Quite incredible

at least this time he used that bad luck up in quali...
so hopfully after replacing the roll bar tmr morning, it's one less thing that would potentially fail on Vettel's car... hopfully~
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Quote from JPeace :He passed through sector 2 on his flying lap during a yellow flag.

I'm still pretty convinced Lewis wasn't affected at all by Michael's spin, Button certainly did through...

But Lewis did some explaining himself for sector 2 through:
"These guys are easily flat out through Turn 8 in qualifying," said Hamilton, "they pull out four tenths from us in that corner...."

And I thought this sentence explained very well he wasn't affected:
"I was very, very happy with that lap. I couldn't have asked anymore from it."
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Quote from JPeace :Hamilton would've got the pole if it wasn't for schumacher spinning in middle sector imo. Hamilton was 0.5 down and got it back to 0.1 in the final sector. That car is capable of winning tomorrow. Button was dissapointing imo.

I thought Lewis was "ahead" of the accident. And that Red Bull is obviously massively quick in sector 2, since that's where all the quick corners are. But RB already admitted they're slow in the slow stuff for whatever reason, and that's where Lewis gained some back in sector 3~?
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Quote from Mustafur :RedBulls are making like half a second on the mclarens on Sector 2 where the mclarens are faster in the other sectors.

I believes Lewis have a very good chance of stealing the win from Red Bull tomorrow... (assuming both didn't stuff things up)

he's only 0.2 off Webber in qualifying, and the difference in their race pace should be much closer than that.
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Quote from Mustafur :well you could say but there was always some kind of failure on those banked curves by atleast 1 team every year,(90% was involved with Ralf though).

and last time i heard, tyres were part of the car.

no it wasn't to do with banked curves, it was Michelin that pushed their tyres right to the limit and its backfired on them, when they under-estimated how abrasive the new track surface were to the tyres...

Bridgestone didn't have those problems, but then they did have data of the track surface, something that Michelin didn't have...
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :Well, this is interesting...

Former USF1 backer Parris Mullins, along with YouTube dude Chad Hurley, want to reignite the USF1 dream in a more feasible form (i.e., merging their funding with a more established infrastructure), but say it's possible that they could do it by 2011.

Meanwhile, Ferrari have said they'll do whatever they can to see such a thing happen.

At the same time, ART, who are closely linked with Ferrari, and who have an American driver in GP3, are looking to enter the series in 2011.


not to mention ART is co-owned by Nicholas Todt, the son of FIA president Jean Todt...:guitarist
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Quote from amp88 :Ford and Holden have a historic rivalry in Australia, yes. Current V8 Supercars have nothing to do with Ford vs Holden. Not only are the cars so far removed from production cars but they share so much common componentry and are intentionally kept balanced through Project Blueprint that it's actually team vs team rather than manufacturer vs manufacturer. The ATCC did used to have proper battles between the manufacturers (not only Ford vs Holden but a few others in there too) where the cars were actually distinct and there was development from manufacturers to compete against their rivals. Now the Ford vs Holden thing is all about marketing and keeping the appeal of the "diehard" Ford and Holden fans; it has no real bearing on the competition between cars.

but well that's still good enough for the diehard Ford and Holden fans already... and there're plenty of those out there in australia...
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