looks like poo.

Hey Scawen, can you implement rain in the next patch?

Just kidding, keep up the good work mate :-)

I like the idea but I think it's something that might be included in S9. By that time, my wife would be attending my funeral and Scawen would be in sim heaven coding Live for Angels.

Just let go of the wheel and it will go opposite by iteself. Works hell of a lot more intuitivly in LFS than it does in say rCraptor.

I've noticed this on the nvidia side of things. It's actually happening to me right now. I used to use nHancer and decided to try a new driver. Well, not I cant seem to force AA or AF. I've rebooted (which has fixed this symptop in the past) to no avail. Anyone know of an up to date and reliable nvidia driver remover that they've tried?

FF is so much better. Cant feel your camber changes without it.

I think that if you're playing with FF off, then it's close to cheating becuase you do have that advantage of just being able to easily turn the wheel. People that use FF are at the mercy of what the physics engine and FF is telling them and they re-act accordingly. Just my opinion. If were to play without FF, it would see as if I'm just moving a bunch of pixels around the screen and not really coming close to racing.

That was cool but I would have probably showed some game footage without the filters and subsituted the font with something a little more refined. Oh, and a cockpit view would have been nice since it is a simulator.

Geeze, come on people, lets just assume that in a perfect world, we all have PC's which can run a game with HDR on. I vote yes. Seems a bit silly to say that if HDR was an option that you would turn it off. If we had HDR in S3, why turn it off? By then, it would be either a standard on all games in some fasion or obsolete :-) HDR is becoming the standard in alot of games. Oblivion comes to mind and that game looks sweet with it on. Didn't say my system can handle it, but I know in a year from now, I will be enjoying that title all over again. I do that everytime I upgrade my PC. I go back and play the games I couldn't run on high settings. I think LFS is the only game I can run with everything at max including AA and AF at 1600x1200 and still get over 60FPS.

I agree that some games overdo it.

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My first wheel had dicky FF, it would cut out all the time and when it did it was really hard to drive. I think once you're familiar with it, FF is a great benefit.

That said, I think people can judge whether the physics are any good without using force-feedback, because there are so many other ways to witness the physics in action (the view (esp. "forces" view), engine and tyre sounds, RAF output, etc.).

True I guess, but alot of sims dont have the same visual feedback as lfs does.

On the other hand, last time I had my wife try and play a sim with FF, she asked me if I couldn't turn off the feature that's moving the wheel for her :-)

I think they are. I've seen FF mice but that wouldn't comapare to a wheel. And I dont think FF keyboards exist and I know lots of people use those around here.

Is it possible for people who do not use FF wheels to critique the physics in race sims? I use FF and I use what I feel through the wheel coupled with knowledge of the way in which the FF effects are produced to decide whether a sim has got it right, or as right as possible. LFS is one of those sims.

Just wondering if people running no FF can tell a crappy sim from a good one. I feel that if a game feels like crap in the FF dept, then it's physics engine is most likely crap too. What do you guys think?

Such an awesome thread and not a peep from the devs. Irritating.

I think the devs should have dropped in a real world track. I think that's needed more than a F1 car. I think more people are dying to drive the beloved LFS cars on the tracks that we race daily in other sims. Just for the sake of being able to compare would have been worth so much more to me. F1 is good, but nothing special since ISI has the same type of deal going on for rFactor, but that game is starting to suck. Dont get me wrong, I love F1, but you kinda need the whole package - pit stops, pit crew, all the cars, etc.

Does it go anything like this?

Get up
Make some coffee
Sit infront of the PC all day and code
Family stuff at night
Go to sleep

If we knew their work habits, we might be able to guesstimate how long it's going to take for the next update.

Is this really reflecting the environment or is this simulated?

More info

I tried going to blackwoodcircuit.com and it didn't exist anymore. Devs still own those domain names? I thought it was really cool.

Once your in the car, you can hit the > and < keys to increase or decrease the amount of FF. LFS has awesome FF. Dont be fooled into thinking that it's a little flat compared to some other games which use canned effects. At least you can feel the suspension. The only thing that's missing is feeling bumps in the road, unless there aren't any - but I think there are becuase the car goes up and down as seen through the cockpit.

I think most of our grandchildren will be dead before S3 comes out. The devs will still be here becuase they are immortal :-).

Seriously though, just get S2.

I sit down low and it's really noticible.

I posted this in another thread but it was all the way on page 11. Just wanted to make sure the devs get to read it:

I just noticed that skid marks on the road disappear when viewed through the transparent visor on the Formula XR. Its kind of distracting. You see the skids on the road ahead, but when viewed through the visor they're not there and just show the road.

Thanks

Hey Scawen,

Not sure if this has been mentioned but i just noticed that skid marks on the road disappear when viewed through the transparent visor on the FOX. Its kind of distracting. You see the skids on the road ahead, but when viewed through the visor they're not there and just show the road.

Are there any? If so, list them here.