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KeiichiRX7
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Um, as one of the ones involved in the starting of this thread... I'd just ike to highlight the fact the title. Key in this is the word "Possibility", meaning it's possible not concrete.

Months ago, my team sent an email to the devs asking if it was OK to seek out new content, pending that it was THIER decision as to whether the new content would be used. DP1 is a lead, not a guarantee. The thread was put here to guage community support for the vehicle.

I personally havent made any asumptions on this, It's just a possibility.
it woulod be REALLY cool, but it may or may not happen
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Quote from Fetzo :pfff, citroen is testing it's rally cars in the european rallycross championship BEFORE they use them in rallying (WRC). i don't think there are more sophisticated and faster rally cars out there than the ones they use in rallycross.

pls don't compare that amateur driving you call rallycross in north america with real (professional) rallycross.

petter solberg learned how to drive fast racing rallycross.

do i sense a little hostility?
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
+1 gotta have my team colors
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
girly or nto they make for excellent track cars
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
*snip* seemes i missed the very last post in my sleep deprivation, which makes my post redundant and un-neccisary.

admin/mod, feel free to delete this post, or not, doesnt matter to me.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Guess that kills my team's slickmod server.... that was quitea lot of fun to run slick shod GTi's around the arena courses
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
*Snicker* If it's possible to texture in solidworks, I'd like to try to do a ZWR livery for it, it mgiht help with marketting later j/k
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Keep in mind that one of the shining points of LFS is that it's beninner friendly. I can't think of anything more frustrating to a beginner than making a simple mistake and ending up with a car you cant drive anymore even back to the pits for repair.
moare accurate damage would be nice, but it really wouldnt accomplish too much if the car was in such a state that it could no longer at least be limped.

So i propose a compromise, realistic, but limited damage.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Quote from Michael Denham :Sure does Even without PIR, there is of course certainly the potential to fine tune the dp1 in game based on the GPS data, but having a real car and track would be fantastic for LFS, and hopefully useful for you.

As for timeline for the dp1 project, I think this can be compared to Live For Speed, as they're pretty similar in a few ways. LFS and dp1 are both an attempt to build something better than what is currently out there, by an individual/small group with their first product in this area, learning a lot as they go, and appearing to be pretty successful so far on a relatively low budget compared to the big guys. When people ask why things are taking so long in LFS, we're quick to say, hey, there's only one guy working on coding, etc, and obviously it's the same for the dp1! And this isn't a full-time thing for Dennis either...

Because they're so similar in concept, I have always thought that LFS and the dp1 would be a great match, and it turned out two of us got in touch with Dennis on the same week with the same idea!

Yeah, it's great stuff. and It's quite exhilarating to see someting come of an email. (I've written to a few american race car companies as well, but no response.)

The small companies with a lot to gain from popularizing thier vehicles, and enthusiasm for thier craft seem most apt to allowing the car to be reproduced in the sim world.

I would assume (ub abswer toa previous user's question) that the louvers were integrated on the prototype design and will be replaceable on the production models. I could be wrong though as the lines areand therefore aero is cleaner with the integratred parts


(forgive horrid typos its about 6am, and ive been up since 10 am yesterday
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
hmmmm..... accurately reproduced DP1 + accurately produced PIR + telemetry = posibility for benchmarking lfs direct to real data

IE use the control input telemetry and compare the results (compare the gloads from the real car, and the g-loads from outsim)
KeiichiRX7
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Quote from wheel4hummer :It is cancelled out by the downforce.

I can second that. What you see in the Forces View are Vectors, which are the Net force in a certain direction. 1G left and 2G's right would produce a single vector indicating 1G to the right, as that is the effective force in that direction. You see lateral and acceleration vectors as well because these come from different sources and are forces of thier own, in thier own direction.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Support a local Raceway? I'm there. What people don't realise in some areas is that a legitimate raceway like PIR is the best way to fight street racing: Provide a legal outlet. From what I hear the track fees are to high to be effective though. If there had been a road-course anywhere near Corpus Christi most of the motorsports club I was part of would have raced there instead of the streets.

If PIR's a city park, getting support shouldnt be hard at all. This is especially true in the preservation aspect, since once you put something on the internet you can never kill it. I've been concidering approaching Mid Ohio Sports Car Course for the same reason.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Personally i wouldnt mind seeing an "FZ Cup" version for the FZ50 and and new FZ additions, similar to the carrera cup. a slight upgrade to the FZ50 but not outrageous like the GTR version. More like a Sportsman class.

wing, diffuser and brakes would probably be the main upgrades, complimented by a rather spartan interior for reduced weight.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Elandor, that's what the placeable mounds are for, to make your own elevation changes
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Well, Dennis.. I think the first step in getting PIR would be to approach the management of PIR. Kind of like we approached you. As the others said though, S3 is a ways off still. Who knows though, we got the BMW-Sauber F1.06 in the middle of S2 development.

To be completely honest, when joen and I started this thread, I didn't expect such a warm welcome for the car, but once again this community has managed to impress me.

(PS, have you got your own CFD program or do you use someone elses?)
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Well, i do have one more thing to add to this.

Budget: The larger the number of supporteres the less hard it becomes to raise the money. That's why Fund Raisers exist. If we have to we can sell candy bars
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
the SCCA sure like to race Legends at Mid-Ohio and other raceways a lot for it being an oval only car
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Actually, let me see if any of my contacts are willing to help. dragster and stock car experience comes itno play here, becquse we have mentioned tubular frames, and that's probably the way to go for a team with limited funding and facilities
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
heres a cool thought, DP1 in LFS, and a DP1 reproduction cockpit build off of actual specs.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
wait a minute... OT

well, the sheet meal work wouldnt be too hard, and we could sneak it over a subaru impreza so that the 4wd and engine are already in place
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Nextel Cup cars make about 800 BHP.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Quote from Maelstrom :I would prefer the BF1.05 with a V10 and more than 900 horse power!

excellent point. the F1.07 is nto fundamentally a different car than the f1.06. It's simply updated.

The f1.05 however was designed to comply with a different set of rules. and is thus a fundamentally different beast.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Want me to write a letter to 600Racing to see if they are as keen as DP cars is?
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
It would tickle me crazy to see the FXO GTR get built. Not that it wouldn be a great car but the notion itself is sort of paradoxical.

When was the last time a car was in a game then became a real car? I don't beleive it's ever happened that way.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
its off topic as all hell, but you cant edit anything other than the demo cars with tweak V

if you figure out how though...
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