Quote from Marlbro :

That thread is about racers showing support for a product they think is heading in the right direction towards realism, a product that came under a great deal of criticism from people who simply wanted to race a "game". Putting G25 in your name is just like a school child shouting "my garden's bigger than your garden" or "look how much Mummy and Daddy love me 'cos they bought me a wheel".

Hay! I payed for my own, I didn't get the Quad core because I thought LFS was more important.

Quote from atlantian :

wow, Lego, sweet, so are u saying that LFSTweak would just screw up the physics if you use it for something minor as trimming a few pounds off?

No, I'm saying that you wouldn't be able to use it on-line if you changed the weight of the car, it would be considered cheating and would get you banned if you did.

Quote from jayhawk :

That is a lovely set. Perfect gearing for Fern Bay. I love it!

Thanks, and yes my gearing is that close in my Miata. 60 mph at about 4000 rpms 5th gear, good gas mileage on the surface streets, but not so much on the freeways, specially when I'm going 80+ mph(which is every time I go on the freeway).

Last edited by legoflamb, Fri 11 Jan 2008, 00:42.

Quote from atlantian :

well, no, i want a sim to be totally realistic, so it makes people who are not GENUINELY interested in racing and/or driving quit within a few seconds since it's too hard for them.

I want a sim that you can basically dial in a setting for a car (ie make specs similar to those of real cars) and you can drive it and it would act as if it was in real life.

I made the XRG perform like my Miata. However there is still the weight difference that cant be changed with out changing the physics.

Quote from atlantian :

WHAT?!?!? GT; an ARCADE GAME??? ok, gt4 is a very bad example of what polyphony can do but i am sure that gt5 is going to be amazing. it's philosophy is to make everything as real as possible, from stock car tuning, to tracks and physics, it's trying to be perfect. and that's not an arcade game, they are striving to be the ultimate driving simulator that you can learn how to drive and race from.

The quality of the physics probably stopped improving at about gt3.

Now i would think that what you are referring to something more derogatory, something that is foul and it's sim title should be usurped... i bring you FORZA all they care about is what kinda stickers you can put on the car. and the graphic qualities aren't even good enough to compensate for it's stupid physics system

I can't say I expect much for GT5, I played the Japanese GT5 prologue, and it isn't very much different from GT4. Yes there are cockpit views and the physics has changed, and the AI have been updated, but their expectations for their game don't seem to be very high. The makers of GT5 still expect their users to pass 8 cars(16 total 7 behind you when you start) in two laps in a balanced class. I, with a controller, was able to pass those 8 cars in less than a lap with zero contact and no course sutting, not only that but gain 15+ seconds on the finishing lap. That shows what they expect their game to be which isn't very good.

If it is assists any of you are looking for and non-competitive racing, then this is the game for you.

Last edited by legoflamb, Thu 10 Jan 2008, 11:47.

Quote from lalathegreat :

Jeff you have to realise the type of people your arguing with. most of them are going to agree with what ever the developers do, in the mind the developers can't do no wrong. plus some suffer from elitist syndrome where they forget that this is just a game. they want the game as "hard" as possible so they can feel better about the lap time they just got.

Imean for god sake its just a game why do you care if the person you racing is using auto blip or throttle cut.

It is just a game, however for most of the people that play this simulator/game(including me), see every time we are out on the track as a club track day, because we can't afford to spend $300 every weekend on tires or for any repair that, might cost $1000 or more, happens to occur. So yes I definitely take this game more seriously than I should.

Elitist, of course, racing is racing regardless if its on a track or in a game. I couldn't imagine anyone would prefer a keyboard and mouse(game pad or flight sticks) to control their daily driver to work, however that is just my opinion.

And I do agree with what ever the developers choose to change, because it is in the license agreement. If I were to choose to not agree, then I would leave the LFS community, whats so hard about that?

The reason I chose to purchase this simulator is because I liked the developers main goal in the making of this sim. I like how they don't try to cater to everyone's whining just to please everyone, otherwise they might as well be making something like the "Gran Turismo" franchise.

Quote from AndroidXP :

roflmbopmslol

Yeah like that, but in a face to face conversation.

I liked where the topic was going, it seemed interesting to hear other peoples opinions on the subject of using acronyms for the purpose of showing emotion in a real face to face conversation. Personally I find it very annoying, and just walk away from the speaker that used an acronym to convey an emotion.

Quote from HOTN355 :

ahh what a joke,sorta makes the value of my wheel go down a bit less,i drive manuals all day so im always in that area hahaha,and using manual clutch with sequential shifter is just homo,thanks for letting me know though,one problem out of the way haha.

A most GTR cars have the clutch pedal in the car cause it is still needed to start or heel and toe to blip throttle on down shifts. I still heel and toe in the XRR cause it makes it easier to blip without missing the down shift and keeps me from locking the rear.

I was had assumed that samjh wasn't locking the tires.

You used to be able to, however only through an exploit.

Quote from JeffR :

Racing brakes, being designed for racing, won't fade unless there is some type of failure. The stock brakes on many standard road cars will quickly fade after just a few laps under race conditions.

Like I said, every material has its limits, just because they are made for racing doesn't mean they cant over heat. Brake fade doesn't have to happen within "a few laps" and is more than just heat.

Edit:
Here is an explanation of the different types brake fade.
[note green fade and fluid fade]

http://www.se-r.net/car_info/brake_performance.html

Last edited by legoflamb, Tue 8 Jan 2008, 09:38.

Is the power plug pluged in? the G25 doesn't run on USB power alone.

Have you installed the logitech profiler?

you might be turning the wheels to far in right had corners.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

You firstly can start to change your avatar!

No!! 'cause I am proud of it. However, I won't, I will... not... Use the G25 as an excuse to be a shity driver on and off the track.

By shity, I don't just mean slow but having the inability to race cleanly with other cars on the track.

Quote from Roadie :

This can go both ways... Why should the people that CAN blip have the advantage of doing it?

Because they took the time to learn it and practice it to perfection.

Quote from Zachary Zoomy :

the XR cars are the only ones I seem to be able to do a burnout in becuase of hte FR layout. has anyone ever done one in anotehr RWD?

Edit: What about the LX cars?

Heres my sorry attempt.

Last edited by legoflamb, Tue 8 Jan 2008, 03:44.

"EABSHW[G25]hpm" ECS mobo, AMD Athalon 64, BFG 7900 GT OC, Soyo mid tower, Hans-G 19" Wide screen, G25 hanging pedal mod


:ices_rofl

Not proud for the ECS motherboard though.

Quote from squidhead :

1) you need a RWD car
2) you need to build up revs and hold the brake pedal
3) release clutch fast, if the revs drop fast release the brake a little bit
4) youre burnouting

why would you want to know how it's done?

it was an axis problem its fixed now

Quote from JeffR :

....
Brakes that don't fade - Obviously no car with brakes prone to fade will pass safety inspection at any sanctioned race, so the cars in LFS have properly upgraded brakes.
.......

All breaks fade every material has its limits regardless of any upgrades.

Quote from Migz :

oh right, is there any mods that can make more smoke?
and im pretty sure if i mess about with the setups i can make a bit more smoke?
but as a reference what should i keep things definetly at?
like should i keep the bias or anything like that in a certain region?

You should keep them at whatever you prefer or what is comfortable. Its more about driving how you like not how you should.

but also it affects the performance of the vehicle so dont lower the Break pressure to low, you wont be able to stop as well, and dont make the bias to rear ended or to front ended.

Generally I prefer high break pressure and a bias of about 70-80%

Quote from GeoffonTour :

I had the same opinion until I bought one. Then I was crashing so much I put it in as a warning. I do like to know whose using the 720 deg lock, manual clutch & H shifter, because they make a huge difference, but as has been pointed out not everyone with g25 does anyway.

I do every day I play LFS, and yes day, 'cos when i play it takes up my whole 15-20 hours of being awake.

Edit:
As you can see in my avatar, how could I not use the clutch pedal and H-shifter?

Quote from Migz :

YEAH, got them on seperate axis, and i managed to do a little one with the XRR
but with the XRT the back wheel would spin for a few seconds then stop.
also there isnt much smoke coming of he XRR anyway to make it loads, as in so much you can hardly see?

that was from a weird exploit, where you find a place to park in a spot where one drive wheel is partially off the ground when you do the burnout.

I'm not sure if you can still do that in the new patch.

Quote from Migz :

I have the formula force EX
it has something called a logitech profiler, not called wingman
and i had a look in the axi settings for the accelerator and brakes,and you cant select which one they go to.

edit:try telling me what you do on wingman and ill see if it works here.

Edit: wingman or profiler its the same thing if you look at the details of the .exe file it says "logitech wingman event monitor"

do this:

Quote from ColeusRattus :

Just deactivate the "combined pedals" checkbox in the game specific settings.

In the Profiler got to options> global device settings, or edit> specific game settings

then un-check the box that says "report combined pedals".
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In game go to Options>controls>Wheel / js,

then click on axis / FF,

There should be a setting that says:
"throttle / Break axis: combined : separate : buttons

Click on separate, then look to the right side, there should yellow and blue lines, those are the possible axis,

Press on your pedals to see which axis are being used,

there also should be a list of assignable axis to the left of the axis indicato:

select function to assign axis
Steer
throttle / break
heading...
etc.

If, when you pushed the separate button, your axis are separate, then the throttle / break button should be two separate buttons, one for throttle only and one for breaks only.

Now press on the pedals, you should see two separate axis being used to the right.

If the axis are separate then you have to assign hem to the corresponding function.

Last edited by legoflamb, Mon 7 Jan 2008, 22:25. Reason : Post merge

First you have to have an axis this is able to be set as separate, so it would be nice to know what it is you are using.

The only software I am familiar with for FFB wheels is the logitech wingman profiler,(the only wheels I've owned are: the Driving force Pro, and the G25) which use that program, so I might not be any help to you.

Quote from moskvich3v1 :

I think that the easiest way to make more smoke is to make a very short gears and RWD car like XRT or other,warm-up tyres to 100-120 degrees and drive with full throttle with brake

Hes not haveing problems with the setup just the Throttle and Break Axis.

Your Throttle and break axis are set to one axis, what are you using for your controls?