Quote from JeffR :

He's lifting on downshifts (shifter is auto-blipping for him, but he's also trying to brake smoothly), but not on upshifts, at least not most of them.

I just watched the video again to make sure I saw what I had thought I had seen before. The timeing is a bit off but he lifts on all(every single) upshift. I know what hes is doing on down shifts, its heel & toe, I am no idiot. As you can see in my avatar,
<---------- I have a three pedal setup . I have to use heel & toe to break and down shift properly, just like how I do in my car.

Edit:
<---(It's put together in 4 seperate photos because I dont have a digital camera, and my web cam doesn't have a cable that is long enough)

Quote from JeffR :

Another no lift sequential shifter example, BMW 320i STW from www.supercarchallenge.nl. Turn down the sound as the rear end is really loud.



Assen-bmwSTW.wmv



or a 2002 Formula 1 car, fully automated computerized shifting, David Coulthard in a McLaren at Spa:



spaf1.wmv

In the BMW video again you can see his knee lift as he upshifts. As for the F1 video you can't tell if he is or is not lifting because teh camera if far away.

Last edited by legoflamb, Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:41. Reason : Explanation, addition

Quote from Danke :

i.e. my real windshield is bigger than 17" diagonal, etc, etc, etc)

Change your FOV in cockpit view to 110 or more(up to 120 max).
Then you wont have that problem.

Quote from frokki :

Warranty starts the day it's bought. If you buy it from a retailer (dunno if those sell by ebay, at least here they do via local web auction) it will, but if you buy it from a consumer, the warranty is stated on the warranty recipe.

OT: I finally ordered my G25 today, and got a 2-year warranty with it!
But what I've heard, theres a good chance for the shifter to break...

Just dont be rough with it!

Yes!

manual all the way!!

Boooooooo, Already, people are cheating?

Quote from JeffR :

Video of Keiichi Tsuchiya driving a NSX GT at Tsukuba, with a no lift sequential shifter, similar to the XTRAC type:

If you look at teh pedals you can clearly see that Tsuchiya lifts throttle on upshifts.

Quote from lalathegreat :

my first experience with the new clutch was me taking the 1.3 liter hatch and shifting fast from first to second and there was about what felt like 1 second of slipping as the clutch struggled to slow the engine down.

You are obviously shifting very poorly if you get one second of slip inbetween any gear, you must be flooring the throttle too eairly before the clutch has even remotely grabed.

Quote from JeffR :

Personally, I don't see the issue of players flat shifting justifying the creation of an imaginary clutch that overheats due to such shifting, since it doesn't happen in real life.

You must have not ever flat shifted a car in RL because I have in my car and the clutch slips and burns for more than a second and is way slower than shifting properly. I can't say anything about heat though because I know it will cause the clutch some harm, so I make sure to not slip the clutch like that again, the clutch cools down before it becomes unuseable.

Quote from lalathegreat :

no one needs to make a video because its clear that the so called clutch simulation isn't really a sim at all. i just can't get over that you guys are actually think that its ok. reminds me off when u guys argue of how some aspect of another sim is bad because of hows it done.

Aperently it is not clear because then this argument/discussion would not be happening.

Last edited by legoflamb, Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:07. Reason : clean up clutter

hmm mine doesnt do that.

I poped in to the demo the other day, and I agree, the XRG is really fun to drift.

Quote from MaxHeadroom :

Eh ok. tell me when we get monitors that allow us seeing 150 degrees.

Its not the monitors that alow FOV, it is the program/application in queston that allows it. So we do have monitors that allow 150 FOV, its just that everything will seem really small/far away.

Edit: If you hold 6 on your keyboard you can zoom out to a max of 160 degrees in LFS.

Quote from Impreza WRX :

Or better yet, how about a series of LFS driving tests where you learn how to drive a manual gearbox!

oooo that is way better!

Quote from zeugnimod :

Just btw, IF this poll were in any way representative LFS would lose almost one quarter of its players/drivers when cockpit view is made the only view available.

Just thought I'd point this out.

I doubt that every person who used chase view would just quit playing LFS, thats like people who, don't know/want to know, how to use chopsticks stop/boycot eating because forks and spoons were banned.

Edit: !Warning! over exageration !Warning!

my rev limiter is at 7500... hmmm thats the same as the XRT lol.

Quote from Shotglass :

even there locked diffs are useless
try a very low coast lock to get a better response to lifting off and 0 preload to make the car react quicker to clutch kicks
and of course a very high power lock (75+) for the ass out bits

There is a problem with that, the problem is when "drifting" its harder to regain grip to catch a little oversteer (I say a little, because some oversteer is unvecoverable).

However, I just use my racing setting with high accel. lock and fairly low everything else.
Edit: (when drifting)

Last edited by legoflamb, Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:14. Reason : word error

Quote from Impreza WRX :

Yeah this should be sticked, because this piece of knowledge is important for EVERYONE to know!

Or maybe put into the LFS manual.

Quote from RedCoupe :

In RL like they said you need to match the RPMs pretty close, and if you let the clutch out fast with out doing so you can feel it pretty good.

The game is pretty forgiving though, Id imagine part of it being me not being fast enough for it to be critical but as long as you just give the throttle a good tap your usually fine.

Actually its just the same in LFS and IRL, you just don't notice the jerk because the Gs are not simulated(unless you have a 301 forcedynamics).

If you turn the forward 1G movement all the way up you will notice if you have done it correctly, but who wants to do that?

thats how it always happenes.

Quote from Snake2 :

Most people just piss about on the demo but if they are racing well it could be a problem. I think in some ways it is good that people piss about on the demo, because then other people (like myself) get annoyed and then we will at sometime upgrade to S2. Thats just my opinion. All i am saying is that if people are racing fine on Demo they may not see the piont in upgrading to S2, other than the fact that they will have more cars and tracks.

I think people will buy S1/S2 (not upgrade) not because they are tired of being crashed, but now beccaue they are tired of blackwood.

its funny how XCNurse had to change just about all of the posts made by te "nay" sayers to the patch.

It's not a certian amount of throttle its how much is needed at what ever rpms you are at.

that is something you have to learn form experience noone can really tell you.

Too much throttle can ruin your break zone causing to gain distance rather than loose it. SO I'd much rather blip too little, you can really notice if you do it in your car (if its manual). if you dont have one then best of luck.

yeah me too, I just got water cooling and it hasnt happened (got it when Y came out).

Quote from Gunn :

Maybe everybody swerved to miss a reindeer? :bunny3:

LOL yeah maybe.

No but I know what it was, I had the AI going around for a while, it doesn't do it in muliplayer.

Quote from Maelstrom :

No i mean
120 (2/3) (1eye) + 60 (1/3) (2eyes)

Im prety sure (not completely) that one eye sees more than 60, because then our vision would not mesh completely or properly in the center, or where the view of each eye meets(usually at the nose).

ooops wrong interpretation!!

Sorry my fault.

Quote from Maelstrom :

Just 60° (1/3)

Just 120 (1/3)