Assetto corsa are knowing the success because this game somehow achieved what many people dreamed since long time, I mean a good quality contents and a forza/GT like graphics but with realistic enough physics to make it enjoyable, they have pretty good AI for solo players and some interesting features like dynamics time of days, race weekend etc... and the easy modability is a huge advantage too, despite their discutable multiplayer design they have many active servers, it's just like LFS on his golden age, that mean a good base game cannot stop people from playing in multiplayer even with a shitty netcode, but kunos managed to fill some gabs and it's pretty good for pickup racing now.
We have many interesting choices now, for exemple Iracing are for multiplayer crowds, RF2 for those who like ice-like realistic physics
, AC and automobilista for content and overall good features etc.... it will be difficult for LFS to find a comfortable place between them, but what LFS must bet on is offering a balanced product with a good price, but a balanced product must be up to date to the current standard.Sadly even racers are on steam now, being arrogant against steam users is a very big mistake.
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Sometimes you need to face the truth and say that LFS is very poor graphics wise and it's a real immersion breaker not only for me but alot of people will say the same, fictional cars/tracks are fine but the content is very unequal quality wise and we lack some other racing categories, physics are good tbh but has many flaws that some guys exploit to get a completely laughable pb which will discourage many people getting into serious and close racing servers or leagues, also apart from multiplayer LFS has no many features for a good single player experience.
Just look to steam version of Rfactor 1 and the other Rf mod called automobilista, they don't have many attraction because of that.
For a simulator with nearly full of fictional contents who was released since 12+ years, people will except a little more polished product, especially with the ferocious competition that we have now on steam/pc, multiplayer experience is not enough if people can't enjoy the contents with a perfect condition and many features, I suggest for scawen to drop a bit about this VR euphoria and concentrate on the core game to improve contents and feature into a equal state, and why not implementing real time weather or other fancy stuff to attract crowds.
But knowing scawen through his various forum posts, with him it's all about motivation, I think he's not taking lfs as serious business but rather like a free time hobby, if he don't feel like coding into lfs he can drop the things for many years, now he have motivation to develope VR stuff, but after that we are not sure about not entering again into those years of dead development.
And I perfectly understand his situation, as I have same time consuming hobby ( cars design, 3d modeling ) and if you can't have the motivation to start or continuing things you simply can't face them again.
It's only MY opinion with my poor english, I don't force you to be okay with my reasoning.
When you sell a game, you need to look where people are, and on pc steam have the lion share of the industry, that can't be helped sooner or later they need to move to steam or similar platform.
It's good to being sticked to principles of independency etc, but if you care a minimum about your game and want it to survive you have to make the necessary moves to keep people interested with a minimum of coverage.
As for multiplayer, we don't have to worry since we can regulate the races per safety rating thanks to the airio, in Assetto corsa they use similar solution ( Minorating.com ) and racing is much more safe now.
But the timing is important, moving to steam with the actual state of the game is rather stupid, devs will get themselves buried under harsh comments and reviews, so unless they bring the game to a more modern state they sur will fail in their action.
It's good to being sticked to principles of independency etc, but if you care a minimum about your game and want it to survive you have to make the necessary moves to keep people interested with a minimum of coverage.
As for multiplayer, we don't have to worry since we can regulate the races per safety rating thanks to the airio, in Assetto corsa they use similar solution ( Minorating.com ) and racing is much more safe now.
But the timing is important, moving to steam with the actual state of the game is rather stupid, devs will get themselves buried under harsh comments and reviews, so unless they bring the game to a more modern state they sur will fail in their action.
Do you look at physics or feel it ?
The best way to shut elitists mouth, is to beat them on a fair race, they will probably rethink how to treat demo users after that.
But you have to practice alot...
Well Like I said if the phone was stole from outside or refurbished they can cute out the price, but the official distributor with official phone and warranty etc is even more expensive than the euro or US price, because of the import and various taxes fees, and phones are considered like an important object nowadays which worth sacrificing 2 or 3 month of salary, but I dont know many who can own + 150$ phone beside rich guys.
And about the "steal nature" of the softwares piracy, it's a infinite debate, but I personally think that the software are sold like an right to use for limited/unlimited amount of time, by pirating you're not stealing a property from another person but a right to use, and since a software can be purchased or downloaded infinite number of time, I don't think an no potential consumer are doing any harm to the developers when they screw around with the software.
I can't explain the thing clearly with my english, you will probably not get my point.
Hi, Can anyone provide me with a download link for the pro version ? I have the license thanks to a donation so I only need the software pro version.
You guys are used with the simracing and that's why you find every shit not challenging at all, don't forget that modern cars are flooded with technology and high end tires, they should feel easy to drive and bring pleasure with the minimum danger to the driver.
Go try some historic car in AC like the shelby cobra, they are way more harder to drive because of the rustic design and tires, there is nothing wrong with the simulation atm.
Go try some historic car in AC like the shelby cobra, they are way more harder to drive because of the rustic design and tires, there is nothing wrong with the simulation atm.
When a dev starting to improve the graphics with features that can cut the fps's in half, or a more advanced physics that can eat the CPU usage like a hungry pig, you can't ignore the technology that can help you to gain every bit of fps's possible, especially with more physics refresh rate and calculations.
Edit : I don't mind if he switch to other solution like Vulkan or unity or whatever, what I meant is the necessity of the best fps's friendly solution to day when he start to mess with the deep code.
It's true that when you see the comparatif video between iracing dx9/dx11, the gain in FPS is really interesting, maybe Scawen will be forced the switch when he start to seriously overhaul the graphics engine, because of the necessity to stay within an acceptable frame rate.
@Scawen, maybe the best moment to consider switching to dx11/12 is when you start to restructure the code for multithreading, because you will dig deep in the code anyway it could be possible to finish this two complexe projects in one shot.
@Scawen, maybe the best moment to consider switching to dx11/12 is when you start to restructure the code for multithreading, because you will dig deep in the code anyway it could be possible to finish this two complexe projects in one shot.
Why did you then bought the s3 ?
That's a proof of support from you, nice try for a joke.
I feel your pain Eric, tried to create a fictional track for another game and it's not a fast task at all....
Just tell Scawen to hurry and make some progress on multilayers texturing and track shaders.
Just tell Scawen to hurry and make some progress on multilayers texturing and track shaders
.I agree about cultural deficiencies, but humans are all same.
With a no stable professional life you still got your 5000$, that's not bad giving your situation, I assume they're also giving aids for unemployed people and for their family in you country so it's not like you will die right here right now, if you do the same in one of the third world countries you will not get enough even to eat, and starve to death.
Like I said, 5000$ it's like three time what they are getting even if their are fully employed with qualifications.
Like I said, 5000$ it's like three time what they are getting even if their are fully employed with qualifications.
I bet you're a student who are working on his free time or you're unemployed yet, I don't think a fully time salary will look like that in your country, when I said average 150$ its for a man who are fully time employed with qualification etc.
I hope you can find a decent job asap.
As for the chinese clone, yes there is many with even the original logo :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSgR8sxKWyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxF67VzNeSg
You can find the original brands ofc, with a abnormal good price, because they are either refurbished and sold as new, or somone stole the phone from another country to sell it half price.
I hope you can find a decent job asap.
As for the chinese clone, yes there is many with even the original logo :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSgR8sxKWyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxF67VzNeSg
You can find the original brands ofc, with a abnormal good price, because they are either refurbished and sold as new, or somone stole the phone from another country to sell it half price.
I never understood the hatred toward turkey from east european people, and for information you're not better, don't tell me you're still have a grudge from the time when they invaded your lands, it's completely ridiculous.
Don't generalize, rich people are a very tiny minority in these country, computer and other stuff if they are officially imported the government may reduce taxes so the common people can buy one or two due to their importance nowadays, I bet the smartphones you're talking about are only 50$ chinese clone since I see them everywhere here, many people sacrifice money and time just to get normal things that you guys can buy in one day.
Well if we assume the average salary there is about 150 $, a 50$ for the s2 are about 30% of their total monthly income, if in your country you're paid 2500$ do you accept to spend 750$ in one game ?
Also don't get fooled by touristic place, the real turkey people are nowhere near those places.
No they're not stealing, not in their current situation, stealing is about those who can own the game but choose to go through the wrong path because they don't give a damn about the devs jobs, but in Turkey and other similar places like I said there is no potential consumers for lfs that can buy the game anyway, and when we are dealing with no potential clients, cracking the game or not wouldn't do any harm to the devs incomes.
So let them be it's just a waste of time for scawen, he's already dealing with VR instead of physics and graphics so don't bother him with such infinite loop of fighting piracy.
So let them be it's just a waste of time for scawen, he's already dealing with VR instead of physics and graphics so don't bother him with such infinite loop of fighting piracy.
Just try to download/installe a fresh copy of lfs and see if you can set you game propely.
You're wasting your time, people on turkey and some other same classe country always played pirated games, buying over the internet and spending 1 month worth of salary ( if not 2 ) for a game is a no-no for them, they always lived that way, if you go there you can find stores who are legally selling pirated games for pc and consoles, and no one can say something about that since there is a lot of people who can enjoy them for 1.5$.
It's simple, if they find a cracked games they will play them, If they can't they will look elsewhere, because many of them simply dont have the choices at all, there is no potential customers for game who are selling over the net in those country, and tbh even if the devs managed to secure the game we'll only see the same empty servers all the day for obvious reason that you and me know very well, you will simply make them leave if you force them to buy the game, but yea I am sure if they leave some " human " will have large nasty smile.
It's simple, if they find a cracked games they will play them, If they can't they will look elsewhere, because many of them simply dont have the choices at all, there is no potential customers for game who are selling over the net in those country, and tbh even if the devs managed to secure the game we'll only see the same empty servers all the day for obvious reason that you and me know very well, you will simply make them leave if you force them to buy the game, but yea I am sure if they leave some " human " will have large nasty smile.
thanks,
Hope " new tyres physics for all cars " for the next changelog
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Hope " new tyres physics for all cars " for the next changelog
.nah nevermind let people choose whatever they want, I will not stop people from playing because I don't own the s3 .
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