Quote from aoun :

Whats a gripper?

It's the new mad tyte word for a racer.

If you're not drifting, you must be gripping... even though I'm nearly always sliding to a certain extent if I'm racing.

Quote from autobot001 :

Like or or hate it.

i think there should be enough fun for drifters and the cars feel correct. then going full out on the grippers...

going round and round gripping, personally i cant see the fun in jsut driving around a track..

drifting is alot more exciting and more of a skill.

I like drifting but you should really refrain from saying things like that.

They make online drifters look more stupid than they already do

Take note that no pro drifter would say something as stupid as that.

Hey! WTF!

You're a demo racer! You're not allowed to be smart!

GTFO!

Quote from BimmerAddict :

Really, i mean i drive my track car the same way i drive on LFS and my track car has yet to crap a clutch anywhere near as fast as this. :thumbsdow 5 drift events and still on the same clutch.

Anyhow, my only complaint is the clutch. I mean I can make a full lap (permitting the tires hold) and it will still work but if i try to drive it like my real car (couple of clutch kicks to keep the angle going and revs higher in the powerband), the clutch just becomes butter. everything else i can deal with, drifting on normals on this patch is like drifting with hybrids on patch x so i am sort of used to it.

I think you'll find that you're being quite a bit harsher on your clutch in LFS than you are IRL. I'm somewhat guilty of this, but nothing too serious.

It's possible that the clutch damage is a bit exaggerated but I have no problems as long as I don't abuse it.

What car do you drive IRL, if I may ask?

Quote from frokki :

Hate to be a racist, but why are most of these rants without decent arguments coming from across the pond, where the user base is small even?

Because here in the U.S., a lot of people have this funny belief that their opinions are right and all others are wrong

If you're burning up your clutch, it's because you don't know how to drive stick.

I drive in LFS (albiet a bit more aggressively and without a clutch pedal) exactly like I do in real life. It's no surprise then that I have no problems with the new patch.

Last edited by XCNuse, Sat 22 Dec 2007, 16:14. Reason : censoring

Then just get the full and stop whining

Eh... This is a pretty weak piece. It's all been said before- nothing groundbreaking.

Generally speaking, street racing is stupid because the vast majority of these "racers" drive crappy cars and do it where they shouldn't (in the middle of a city, for example).

That said, I really don't have a whole lot against people going fast off in the hills at odd hours where there's no chance (and I do mean NO chance- nobody lives there and nobody's around). It's not the greatest thing ever, but at least nobody but the driver is being put at risk.

Quote from troy :

uhm, you've got 2 tracks in the demo. that highspeed thing and a race track, not sure how they're called anymore. if your in the entry screen you can switch from one challenge to another.

it's an arcade game, ff is crap, the cars are far to easy to control but what did you expect from nfs? after all its not to bad because you can finally have some normal racing again not that illegal streetrace stuff. i wont buy it but for me it's by far the best nfs since at least 4 years.

Haha! I just found that out. There's no such thing as understeer in this game- just turn the wheel as much as you please

IMO the illegal street racing was at least somewhat interesting. Other cars on the road made it a challenge. This type of "normal" racing is too easy.

Quote from mrodgers :

Quite true....


I found quite the opposite. I used my wheel, and with the 10 second delay in steering, I couldn't keep it straight on the road at all. Absolutely no feel either due to nearly no force feedback other than screwy extremely over done rumble effects.

The only thing in demo was a straight high speed road and I couldn't keep it on the road for more than about 10 feet with the steering delay. I couldn't imagine trying to run a proper racing circuit with corners with this garbage software.

You have to be very... "forceful" with the wheel to get the car to turn. Once I realized this it became all too easy to keep the car on track.

I'd like to try this game on a different track before I make my final judgement but for now it looks like a bad game.

This game sucks.

1)The damage sucks- there's no frame damage, only silly plastic parts falling off.
2)The controls are impossibly easy- even on the "Street King" difficulty setting, it's so hard to get the car out of control.
3)The physics suck- flooring it in a 500+HP car should send it sliding at low speeds.

NFSU series was better IMO.

Quote from Napalm Candy :

http://www.drifting.pl/all_star/Image017.jpg
Yes, this is a street Skyline GTR version modified, but you dont think that this 1000 horse powered it is not like DTM/GTR?

I think that the ONLY PROBLEM, is that a few people wants to f..k drifters, becouse they are only racers and don't like drift

But i dont undestand the reason why drifters are so hated...

I am drifter and racer i like two things, when i drift, I do in a specific server, i don't disturb you!

This is the same like with Drift Tyres or Drift Tracks...

You're a f*cking idiot. That's not a race car.

For the record: Nomuken's Skyline is NOT a GTR (it has 4 doors ffs!). It's NOT a race car. It was built and developed SPECIFICALLY as a drift car.

Drifting is fun but idiots like you ruin the fun.

Passengers are just things that idiots use to mess around. Take them out.

Maybe for rally races but surely not on circuits.

Haha very nice!

It's no mod. Just hit F9 while racing.

Okay.. so how is this different from watching any other demo race?

Quote from XVII :

I mean come on, who cares if someone bumps into you or nudges you (obviously someone who is intentionally trying to just hit other people with their car is a problem)

But from seeing everything on this board...YOU GUYS ARE WAY TOO UPTIGHT ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU DON'T TAP SOMEONE ELSE'S CAR!

Whatever happened to just having fun with racing? Doing this freaking honor system thing is ridiculous! You guys could have a lot of fun if you let down on some of the "standards" of "honor" driving. I say whoever gets first they do whatever it takes to get first. That is the most important part of the race, GETTING FIRST PLACE! That is the whole premises of racing in general!! The glory of winning the race. If someone sideswipes you and they get ahead of you...you should have seen them coming and gotten ready.

Defensive driving yeah, but a little offense would relieve some stress in the race.

I'm sure I'll get flamed and disagreed to wazoo...I don't really care. Just something for you guys to think about.

Very few people (if any) are completely against contact. I don't think that you understand the argument for clean racing.

Close racing is one thing. Reckless driving is completely different.

Very nice. Better than most drift videos!

Synchronized crashing ftw!

Quote from Leprekaun :

I lift my heel from the brake pedal so then I lose brake pressure because of some muscle strain. Anyway, anyone here know a good way to use my feet to do heel and toe efficiently whilst still having a strong amount of brake pressure?

You shouldn't have your heel on the brake pedal to begin with. You should be putting the balls of your feet on the pedals, nothing more. If you're pushing 100% down on the brakes, you can easily rotate your foot to stomp on the gas pedal with your heel. Practice will make you more comfortable with heel-toe at lower braking levels.

Practice makes perfect. I use heel-toe every day when I drive so I'd say that I'm rather good at it. That said, it didn't happen overnight.

Hope that helped! Good luck!

(actually, I hope it doesn't help because the last thing that I need is more people beating me in LFS)

Quote from spanks :

I'm not sure if this is done already, but I don't think so.

As a tire heat cycles, the pressure inside increases and decreases. The hotter the tire gets, the more the pressure goes up. Atm I believe the pressure just stays at what you set it in the garage. It would bring a whole new level to tire care and car tuning, as well as making the first lap or two more interesting. Warming your tires up serves two purposes, making the rubber hotter, but also making the pressure go up to the proper level.

Great idea. So great it's already in the game

http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Image:TyreExplanation.jpg

I dislike that my cashflow goes to -30 when I drive really fast

It's difficult to say. You should've held your line but the effect of the error here was exaggerated and unrealistic due to the incomplete collision system. Call me a downer but I'd have to say that you don't "deserve" this win. It's clear that you messed up and accidentally hit takaryo into the wall. Your fault, though you didn't do it on purpose.

That, however, is not saying that you wouldn't have held on for the win had you not bumped him. My guess is that if the race was a few laps longer then you wouldn't have held on for very long.

Doesn't really matter but I just thought I'd give my thoughts.

I think drifting is great fun but these "drifters" in LFS like NanG ruin the experience for me. It's so strange that they don't appreciate the skills for racing even though most professional drifters have intense racing backrounds or race concurrently with their drifting championships and the basic idea of car control is the same.

Quote from BlitzSilviaS15 :

I live in England!

Just STFU

And BTW i was kiddin.

I brought it for someone and sharing it with him(funnybone2)

Now shut up.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out