You really should have stopped right there then, why didn't you?
There's a thread that you should read: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=2626
"This thread is meant to work as a log of keeping list of all improvement suggestion made for LFS on this forum as well as on some other forums. The log is supposed to include only the ideas that have not yet been implemented to LFS or ideas how to enhance the current state of a peculiar feature. It's a good thing to browse through this before making new suggestions."
I like how everyone arguing for your side never explains why. It's nearly as convincing as capslock or bold text.
I think it's cute.
atlantian stop changing your definition of drifting to fit what you can argue for.
You don't get e-cool points for winning and your posts are looking less informative and more desperate.
You don't get e-cool points for winning and your posts are looking less informative and more desperate.
Nobody is saying that FF is easy or even comparable to RWD when it comes to drifting. While I think that FF can drift, I think it sucks for drifting.
You've been saying FF can't drift because a bunch of people on internet forums said so?
You should know better than to believe what the "masses" of the internet think.We are listening to you, but you're still wrong. Usually, when talking about factual things, if you find yourself asking "Why does everyone else think I'm crazy? (or wrong, different, etc.)" then it's probably not a problem with everyone else, it's a problem with you.
I'll give you that point about FD, however. FD's website sucks hard and I couldn't find anything about it. More reason why I dislike it.
You say that "drifting" refers to FR only, but that's just what you think. Can you show me a rulebook or a statement made by someone who's qualified to make decisions such as this?
I gave you one that shows, if anything can be pulled from reading a rulebook, that FF can drift.
I'm only a couple years older than you so I can't call you a "kid" based on age, only actions. That said, when I said that I was referring to the general community of LFS drift-tastic idiots who are generally too young to drive but talk a LOT of smack because they spend 1823213 hours drifting in LFS.
If you have enough grip on the front wheels, yes you can.
Be less like nearly every LFS drifter that I meet by being more open-minded, it's less frustrating and doesn't make you look like a dumb kid who doesn't drift IRL.
It's worth mentioning that I don't think that FWD is any good at drifting, mainly because it's so difficult to accelerate while oversteering.
I don't see why you can't do that in a fwd car. It's more difficult and complex, which is why very few people do it, but it is possible.
You have to contort your definition so much to try to make it work. Doesn't really make me feel confident that you know what you're talking about.
Last I checked, you can control slip angle with the throttle of a FWD car
It reduces the angle but you're still controlling it (works with your words) If you're going to say that drifting is an "official sport," I would like to remind you what I said about competitions allowing FWD cars.
http://www.d1gp.com/index.php? ... w&id=45&Itemid=62
Participating Vehicles:
1.) Only FR, RR, FF and MR drive-trains (two wheel drive cars) are allowed.
- AWD to RWD conversions are permitted.
- FWD to RWD conversions are permitted
You need to clarify your definition of drifting. To me, it's maximizing slip angle and speed while trying to stick to a certain line through a course.
It would seem that you're talking about powersliding, which is part of the driving technique for RWD racing, not just drifting.
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If you're going to say that drifting is an "official sport," I would like to remind you what I said about competitions allowing FWD cars.
http://www.d1gp.com/index.php? ... w&id=45&Itemid=62
Participating Vehicles:
1.) Only FR, RR, FF and MR drive-trains (two wheel drive cars) are allowed.
- AWD to RWD conversions are permitted.
- FWD to RWD conversions are permitted
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FWIW: The only drifting competition regulations that I can find online allow FWD cars and do not specify the need for the car to be RWD. The only requirement is that no car can be AWD.
I think it's worth mentioning that the majority of people who say "z0mg drifitng is for rwd only!!!111oneoneone" have little-no experience with cars, let alone drifting.
I think it's worth mentioning that the majority of people who say "z0mg drifitng is for rwd only!!!111oneoneone" have little-no experience with cars, let alone drifting.
Enthusia is the best sim and will continue to be the best unless the new GT game is better, which I doubt.
Other console games feel more "real" because they feel much more like normal, everyday driving which is the limit of most people's understanding of driving.
Other console games feel more "real" because they feel much more like normal, everyday driving which is the limit of most people's understanding of driving.
I'm sorry, what cars are you talking about?
In my experience, the least amount of rotation I've ever seen is 900 degrees in the Nissan Z32 NA.
I don't have a problem with the term itself, just the people who use it. When used by most drifters, it shows a lack of knowledge of the speaker about how to drive RWD cars.
I'm pretty good at driving RWD cars but I often find myself sliding quite a bit when I get on the gas. Initial D fanboys and similar idiots online would say "z0Mg raCE DRIFTING, y0!"
Going slightly off topic:
Initial D is a good show but the fans are incredibly stupid. Ever been to an Initial D forum? It's just a bunch of 10 year olds trying to prove to the internet that they know some stupid, obscure fact about their favorite car in Initial D.
Similarly, I enjoy drifitng and watching drifting but find that most drifters on LFS are idiots. Does anybody know why this is?
I'm pretty good at driving RWD cars but I often find myself sliding quite a bit when I get on the gas. Initial D fanboys and similar idiots online would say "z0Mg raCE DRIFTING, y0!"
Going slightly off topic:
Initial D is a good show but the fans are incredibly stupid. Ever been to an Initial D forum? It's just a bunch of 10 year olds trying to prove to the internet that they know some stupid, obscure fact about their favorite car in Initial D.
Similarly, I enjoy drifitng and watching drifting but find that most drifters on LFS are idiots. Does anybody know why this is?
You really should've stopped right there (bold text)
How fast were you burning up your tires?
If you aren't killing your tires, that's a good pace for medium/long distance races but you'll want to push a bit harder for the sprint races (~10 laps) that most GTR servers run.
If you are absolutely destroying your tires, however... don't quit your day job
The idea is to punish those who were abusing an even more unrealistic feature of LFS.
The clutch damage isn't perfect but it shouldn't be a problem if you know how to drive. I don't have problems despite not having a clutch pedal (autoclutch is used for downshifts).
I've been using autoclutch with no problems since I got LFS.
Have you ever seen the guage cluster for... any car?
Go look them up on ebay.
You should note that most, if not all, of the people who are complaining aren't old enough to drive yet.
My road car has a Digital display ;D.
'91 Nissan 240SX.
I think it's more of a sense of hate towards LFS drifters. I believe that the vast majority of them should be banned from the internet and public roads because they suck at driving.
That said, I'm a drifting fan and I know that real drifters are smart and actually know how to drive.
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