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New Skin from me.

Skinfile

nice!!

Quote from Jakg :

The fastest intel single-core chips were old P4's - AMD had them beat back then, and the new Core 2 CPU's (which freaking rock btw) only come in 2 and 4 core versions.

Cheers for the help.
Much apprieciated

Quote from Jakg :

TBH on a single threaded CPU Single to Quad cores makes all of about 4% diffence, because Windows at idle only uses about 3-5% CPU.

Of course, imo you'd be a fool to buy a Dual when a Quad is the same price, but that's just me.

I'd look into a Dual Core simply because the fastest single cores (that are Currently out - the Conroe-L could change this via overclocking) are the 2.8 GHz AMD's on Skt. 939.

For reference - in a single threaded benchmark (ie one that uses only one core), my old CPU, a 3 GHz AMD, got 27 seconds (This is SuperPi, calculating one million digits of pi - lower=better). My 2.13 GHz Quad got about 23 seconds at stock speeds, and when i took it to 2.8 GHz it was setting 18 second times.

Even if your not a multi-task whore, then a Dual Core will still give you the best performance...

Does that also apply against the fastest intel single core chips?

Quote from Ian.H :

Why don't you take your sorry, beggin', bitch arse back to the rock you crawled out from?

Get a fsckin job or something, you sorry excuse for a human.



Regards,

Ian

I shouldn't laugh, but couldn't help it

Quote from Jakg :

TBH on a single threaded CPU Single to Quad cores makes all of about 4% diffence, because Windows at idle only uses about 3-5% CPU.

Of course, imo you'd be a fool to buy a Dual when a Quad is the same price, but that's just me.

I'd look into a Dual Core simply because the fastest single cores (that are Currently out - the Conroe-L could change this via overclocking) are the 2.8 GHz AMD's on Skt. 939.

For reference - in a single threaded benchmark (ie one that uses only one core), my old CPU, a 3 GHz AMD, got 27 seconds (This is SuperPi, calculating one million digits of pi - lower=better). My 2.13 GHz Quad got about 23 seconds at stock speeds, and when i took it to 2.8 GHz it was setting 18 second times.

Even if your not a multi-task whore, then a Dual Core will still give you the best performance.

How much do you have to spend?

EDIT - Dustin, i'm wierd - i didn't buy this Quad for multi-tasking, i bought it because A. It was cheap and B. Because for multi-threaded stuff (ie Rendering) it will pwn. TBH i think this whole "Scan your PC for Viruses while checking your email, encoding a video, downloading pron and playing LFS" thing is just a gimmick...

Thanks Jack, its not really a question of budget, it was more of understanding what is actually required. If a quad core didnt actually make that much difference, then why buy one?
However, now you and previous posters have explained, it is worth while upgrading to a c2d or quad core, purely because LFS isnt the only application running. Now it makes sense to buy the fastest you can afford.......what ever that may be.

Thanks for your help

Andrew

Quote from [RCG]Boosted :

duh?
why should it?
dont u read what u write?

oh right, it only updates when someone replies!!!!!
thanks for that thought i was going mad.

Whenever I post in a thread and then click on NEW POSTS, the thread I have just posted in doesn't appear at the top of the list.....
Is this a forum setting I have missed or is it supposed to do that?

Andrew

Quote from Monkeymike :

Add onto that that whilst running a single-core app like LFS your other cores could be performing 'background' tasks that would either impact LFS or have to be closed in some cases for performance - e.g. enhanced drivers/utils, AV, Firewall etc...

Since I got a Core2Duo the multi-tasking/alt-tab performance of my system has gone up dramatically over a P4 HyperThreader. Just because LFS doesn't use multi-cores right now don't forget LFS, even with focus, will not be the only thing your system will need CPU time for.

Thanks for that, didn't think of that at all:doh:
So now I'm in the same boat as everyone else..........
trying to get the fastest system for my budget (whatever that is)

I've been reading a few of the threads for new PC's and it got me thinking...

Excuse the noob enquiry.

LFS has been written to work on single core chips.
Does that mean if I buy a quad core PC that 3 of those cores are doing diddly squat?

I'm looking to upgrade from an athlon 3000xp with a 7900xt 128mb and 1gb ram.

I'm not playing any other games or dvd burning etc etc. This will be purely for LFS.

The bottom line is this, at what point, do you draw the line in terms of processing speed. Do I buy the fastest single core Intel or AMD because everything beyond that is surplus and a waste of money or just go and get a quad core and be done with it?

BTW how much faster is the slowest Quad over the fastest single core in terms of LFS performance?

Tis all a tad complicated for my liking.......

Andrew

Nice to hear those stories of when "we were kids", but these are big boys toys!!

Granted mine is the bottom of the pile in terms of power/speed, but on a good day it'll drag you along the beach no problem at all and possibly pick you up off the ground.
I was watching some blokes last weekend kite jumping, but they were using 10m kites with bars and harnesses!!
I'm probably too old to start doing things like that, I dont bounce so easily now hehehe.

Quote from BadFun :

Nice foil! Are you using it for traction (buggy or board)? Some years ago I was into stunt kites and even made a few. Hmmm... Maybe I'll go dig them out...

not ready for boards or buggy yet, still practising!!

Just bought this.

It's a HQ Beamer III 3m quad line power kite.
Not the fastest or the strongest but, it goes like stink and pulls like a train.

Anyone else into kites?

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The BBC's version

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6988623.stm

He was knocked off by another driver, not his fault.

Quote from eatdirt13 :

Hi ive played many simulation games, GTR, GTR2, GTL, Rfactor, but I have now come to this which I think surpasses them all definitely in the physics department.

Anyway I was wondering if there was a way to speed up the AI, because I get frustrated when i start from the back of the grid and I can overtake everyone on the first lap even on PRO

Any help would be GREAT

Cheers

Eatdirt

You can always turn this to your advantage, try using a slower car to their faster car ie you drive lx4 and they drive lx6, mix up the combinations until you find one that suits. Another option is to add weight to your car or restrict your power output.

please forgive me didnt use the show posts part of search function

Quote from mikey_G :

yeah, someone made a thread about it a while ago...

did they?

i put williams f1 simulator in the search and found nothing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7tGgMEQX1Y

Anyone seen this?

Quote from JTbo :

....
On board in rally lada, note weird H-pattern with gears and proffessional co-driver

Can anyone explain why that gear lever is going all over the place?

Andrew

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

I've been watching it, I was expecting it to be a bit crap but I am suprised to be enjoying it. At the moment I am waiting till next week, I made the mistake of watching BBC 3 right after the episode 2 weeks ago, so now I've had to skip a week to get back into sync.

I'm away next week so watched bbc3 last night so i dont miss it next week cool!!

Quote from Greboth :

I like heroes It is a good series and some parts I found slightly humourous but as your watching on bbc2 I wont spoil it for you

I take it from that you have watched it on SKY?

I noticed someone around here had a 'Heroes' avatar and wondered what it was all about.
A couple of weeks ago a new TV series started on BBC2 called Heroes.
This sort of program usually doesn't bother me, but I have to say i'm really enjoying it ATM.
Anyone else into it?

Andrew

I work for the Local Authority here and i've been around the wosrt hit areas helping and doing our bit. Evesham is like a war zone around Waterside. Funny how people have short memories when they say this is a once in a lifetime event. I was doing this after the floods of Easter 1998, they were only 150mm (ish) lower than this......

I live in a village about 8 miles away from Evesham and Pershore in Worcestershire and we are totally cut off because of flood water!!!
Thankfully we are not actually flooded just cut off.

My wife is currently stranded in Tewkesbury. There is no chance of her getting home today either due to the huge floods between there and home.

I know there are other drivers who live in this area and wondered how they were doing.

There is another village close by (about 4 miles) called Sedgeberrow and thet have had to be airlifted out of their homes by the Air Sea Rescue helicopters.

Nice way to start the summer............

I'm a big fan of the Tour, but all this doping talk is killing the sport. We have Paul Sherwin and Phill Liggett as commentators for ITV in the UK, and they keep going on about how FAST the average speed is going up. It makes you wonder how year in year out they can keep on maintaining these speeds without some sort of enhancing drugs.

I know these guys are at the top of their sport and that they train all year BUT you cant help but wonder sometimes......

The other strange thing is Bjarne Riis (sp?) admitting taking EPO. He is now trying to tell us his team are the cleanest because they are posting all their test results on the internet for us all to see.!!!!

Lance Armstrong was allegedly one of the most dope tested athletes ever and nothing was found, is he super fit or did he have some very clever people in his team.

The discussion about this will drag on for as long as cycling exists as a sport.

Quote from Syfoon :

I'd love a hack around AS Nat on a GSXR1000.

Would be epic coming off the final chicane, twisting in the wrist and going down the pit straight on the back wheel

Nice one, hadn't thought about going round on a bike!!
oooohhhh i want my zx7r back