I guess someone has to be at the back of the grid

XRR FXR XFR are sequential
FZR UFR aren't

Nope they aren't, they're supposed to have standard transmissions

Um, that's what they're supposed to have

Love the new Renault livery, looks great.. god that nose is hideous though

Williams is the best looking so far imo... looking forward to Red Bull though, imo they've had the nicest looking cars since Newey design started to take effect

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I love this part of the pre-season, so interesting to see some of the things the engineers have come up with over the winter, particularly this year with the new aero regs, even though the cars will evolve a lot over the next few months

Going to be an interesting week - expected car launch dates:

12 Jan: Ferrari
15 Jan: Toyota
16 Jan: McLaren
19 Jan: Renault
19 Jan: Williams
20 Jan: BMW
9 Feb: Red Bull
Torro Rosso and FIndia unknown

The Great Blue Hole of Belize...

And now it's on Autosport - pretty much confirms it

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72319

Just saw it on BBC news which is a much more reliable source than Pitpass

Looks like it's true

edit: Sky news too

Quicksilver's sig is clearly the answer to this thread

Still looks kinda odd, but it is at least much better on a real car with a proper livery

Who exactly is Heikki rated by? He was woeful last year and he was this year too, he isn't a good yardstick to measure from at all.

Quote from The Moose :

Ferrari are the Man Utd of motor racing. A truly arrogant team of bad losers.

People are poking fun at Ferrari, a team that wouldn't know what fun is if it slapped them in the face.

I find nothing to like about Ferarri whatsoever.

Funny, this is exactly how I feel about McLaren. Interesting how much personal perception can completely swing things

Lol, I really look forward to coming here after each race and reading all the BS that people spout, it's hillarious, good show chaps.

Quote from scipy :

Hai Ben,

First thing I've checked was FZR and there's a miss-match, position of CoG was moved 1.5 % forward in Z patch and is 37.5 %, but in VHPA it's 36.65 %.

FZR should actually be 38.1% with driver included

XRR weight and distribution are also off. VHPA has its weight as 1206kg, whereas ingame it's 1170. VHPA distribution is 51.43% whereas ingame it's 53.0% EDIT: nevermind this, the XRR default setup has 36kg added mass for some reason

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Interesting to see how the countries are voting, but it's not really representative, any internet vote will be heavily skewed towards Obama

lol!

That's brilliant

No it wasn't, the penalty was a drivethrough.

The 25 second penalty was only applied because the race had finished and so the drivethrough couldn't be served.

Never used them, never had a problem in 7+ years. Just be sensible and dont click dodgy links/download weird stuff and you'll be fine

Jarno Trulli gives his opinion:

"In my opinion Hamilton got an advantage by cutting the chicane, had he stayed on the road, he wouldn't have had the speed to overtake the Ferrari."

"In the same way at Monza someone could cut the first chicane, catch a rival's draft, and overtake him under braking at Roggia."

"When you attack on the outside, you do it at your own risk, because who's on the inside has the right to do the corner. If there isn't enough room, then you lift.

"Had there been a wall there, instead of the surfaced escape route, would Lewis have attacked anyway? Had there been gravel, he wouldn't have had the chance to attack when rejoining the track because of dirty tyres."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70435

This man speaks sense

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Lewis won, everyone saw it and agrees that he won that race.

No they don't.

Suzuka 2005. Alonso overtakes Klien by cutting the chicane, gives Klien the place back but immediately tucks in behind and overtakes again at the next corner. Three laps later the stewards decide this is not sufficient and order Alonso to give the position back again, which he does so, and then has to overtake him again.

Just throwing it out there, this is not the first time this has happened, cut the conspiracy bullshit.

I miss Montoya... last driver I really liked

Interesting Autosport article on that topic: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70246