Was there a new type of gearboxes developed? Never heard of a manuel. Only heard of some guys named Emanuel. How does this manuel thing work? It's bizzare that americans type A LOT worse than most of the non english fluent people...
The old DTM (90s', Merc 190 E Evo II and E30 M3 DTM) had 2,4 straight 4s with 350 BHP. RWD. So they would be quite a bit slower than GTRs. The Alfa had a V6 and AWD, Audi used a V8. Don't know about the Alfa, but the Audi had over 400 BHP but on the other hand it was 500 kg heavier (or even more).
The current DTMs are just some cars with either an Audi or Merc badge on them. 4.0 V8s, restricted (with a certain diameter pipe) to 475ish bhp, the rear end is the same for both brands (gearbox, diff, rear wing - all by the same supplier), drag coeficients must be the same i think and the engines are made by each company. THey handle a lot more like a single seater since they are made form a tubular space frame and have a carbon fibre body over it, that resembles either an A4 or a C class.
I'd prefer the old DTMs TBH - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAE-819OG4
The current DTMs are just some cars with either an Audi or Merc badge on them. 4.0 V8s, restricted (with a certain diameter pipe) to 475ish bhp, the rear end is the same for both brands (gearbox, diff, rear wing - all by the same supplier), drag coeficients must be the same i think and the engines are made by each company. THey handle a lot more like a single seater since they are made form a tubular space frame and have a carbon fibre body over it, that resembles either an A4 or a C class.
I'd prefer the old DTMs TBH - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAE-819OG4
Prolly licencing issue.
Aaaah. That's quite useful. The XRR could use something like that (the back just comes around and says hi at hard braking in 2nd or 3rd if you're not carefull).
Maybe it could compete with the XRG/XFG. I'd prefer the S2000 though 
Bob don't get it totaly. I think i know what you want to say but i just don't get it 100%. If you'd care to explain some more or if you have some literature on that to read up. I googled it at first but didn't find anything usefull.
Just 220? Hm... Still enough i think. THe two buggers are tire eaters with 200ish BHP anyway. Maybe lift it up to 250ish in case an RWD competitor comes along.
And IMO GT1s and GT2s are way too close. At the moment MoE is using restricted GTRs as GT2 and they were about 5 seconds slower per lap in South City (over a minute and a half). They are restricted to 350 i think.
J@tko the XFR is AFAIK already quite close to 300 bhp. THe UFR is much much lighetr and obviously has only 180 BHP. With 300 it would be a tire eating monster.
Knee-points? What is that?
Yum yum!!!
But only if the engine sound will be authentic 
moddys??? You mean mods? And buy S2, you'll get your Porshe then (FZ50). And i don't get why everybody wants those crappy muscle cars. After playing TDU they are even more horrible to me then they were before. 7 litres of polluting mayhem that can't even go 200 kph and can't take off and get to 3rd without burning out the tires. And can't stop and can't turn. I really can't see the point in chugging along LFS tracks in second at 4000 rpm (red line) and braking for the kyoto oval turn (while in second at 4k rpm).
For you maybe. The fact is that racing totaly outclasses drifting in terms of popularity. You can race inpractically ANY car. Well at least try to drive fast. I can do that even with my 55 bhp Punto. I can't drift with it. There are a couple of reasons - lack of power, lack of RWD and the handbrake barely grips
It will work on snow but there seems to be no snowing for at least a week 
Anywho, TVE you're right. Drifting community used to rock. Now, it's just some stupid kids, most of the cool, old school guys are barely playing at all. I'm happy that i left that world right before it completely went down the drain. I'm a happy racer now for a year and a half
BTW ROyBosh that's a video of how the Group N cars were cannibalized for other stuff than rallying. And rally cars have been suggested tons of times, a rally pack was said to come out. There is no word of it now though.
ajp i'd be scared to pass anything the size of a Mini in that thing...
We wouldn't cut anything. Just the boxer would get changed with an inline 4. All else remains the same (more or less). And the FXO could be kept more factory like - FWD. True. Alfa did compete in DTM (and ITR) with an all wheel drive 155. Don't know if they made AWDs back then. But doing that would lower the number of basicly the same cars, like it's with the XRs.
About the LX8 GTR, sounds fun, sure, i went down that road, but when you think over, the LX is just way too small to compete with normal cars. Make a small kit car simmilar to a prototype (Radical anyone) and put the LX8 GTR that XCNuse made against it. That would IMO be fun. 2 small, fast, downforced cars competing against eachother.
About the LX8 GTR, sounds fun, sure, i went down that road, but when you think over, the LX is just way too small to compete with normal cars. Make a small kit car simmilar to a prototype (Radical anyone) and put the LX8 GTR that XCNuse made against it. That would IMO be fun. 2 small, fast, downforced cars competing against eachother.
What about an RB4 GTR to replace the FXR and take off the huge wing and stuff of it along with the turbo and put it into the FWD GTR category?
WHy not put a 2.6 V6 in it? There you go, one Alfa 147 GTA.
EDIT: well, more a 145 but yeah
EDIT: well, more a 145 but yeah
Let me think... Exige 240R? The upcoming GT3 you say? fine with me 
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Reason : added 'The upcoming'
I know semi slicks exist. Your point is?
Bob IMO it's not worth it. Not now. Maybe when that 80 core behemot from Intel is operational and in 75% of all rigs, yes. We will have the computing power for totaly realistic damage then too so yeah. If it's real naturally. MoE on Kyoto Long or Aston GP wouldn't raise the temp one bit i'd say. The cars would be just too far appart. Put 32 GTRs or BF1s on FE club, that's a different story
Buy S2. Then you can drive the RB4. Looks like a Supra :P Or the XRT. looks like an old Supra.
EDIT: and i fail to see how a Supra can be a bike killer??? It's just about 8 times heavier yet only has 140 bhp more... I'd say a Caterham would be a bike killer, not a Supra...
EDIT: and i fail to see how a Supra can be a bike killer??? It's just about 8 times heavier yet only has 140 bhp more... I'd say a Caterham would be a bike killer, not a Supra...
Don't know if it ever did (maybe a few years back), but they could see Wankels as a threat and banned them before anyone used them in an FIA series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_787B#Life_after_Le_Mans
And yes, i was srong about 2 victories, dunno what i was thinking.
It won the Le Mans twice, it totaly outclassed it's competitors so FIA banned non-piston engines because of that.
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