Quote from PMD9409 :

However if you sit on the front stretch, and near the tri-oval, then you can see pretty much the whole track. You just have to sit high enough up. Best seats there IMO.

Been there multiple times if that helps me prove my point any.

not been to Daytona, but that's my experience with MIS too... you want to be up high-ish (maybe not ALL the way up) on the front side of the track... behind the two rednecks that get in a fist fight because someone accidentally spilled their beer.

You have to be near the rednecks, otherwise you lose out on all the great people watching opportunities and the umm...unique culture

there we go with the persecution complex again...

Quote from Racer X NZ :

latrines !

0313 - LAV Crewman GT=90

Light Armored Vehicle

Quote from UncleBenny :

Sounds like Danica will be running some Cup races for Stewart next year, ugh. I don't know how I feel about this, I can't stand Danica. I just named my kitten Stewart too, and now Tony has to turn around and do this to me.

change the kitten's name to Stuart. problem solved.

... that's fine by me, it can stay stolen

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Joen's Paul's (billionare) father who owns Menards, and is famous for the Menard V6s of Indy 500 fame.

yeah I know, I just don't think he has anything to do with the running of this car besides providing the sponsor money for RCR to run the car.

Quote from PMD9409 :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Menard,_Jr.

I think that's who he was referring to. That was also the reason Ben deleted his post I think.

ahhh... I had assumed he was talking about the driver, not the sponsor

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

John

Paul

Quote from Cornys :

lol I wasn't where I thought I was. I just took the time to take the test:

just goes to show that politics is as much about the marketing, if not more, than actual policy. Funny, we're in the same quadrant of the same quadrant, but I've always trended Democrat.

Travis Pastrana broke his leg in the X games, and will miss the Nationwide race he was supposed to take part in at Indy...

Quote from flymike91 :

omg they bombed dearborn!?

seriously, I choose my words carefully and I meant it when I said I am not my government any more than you are. And you know I meant within our borders so don't split hairs with me.


It doesn't take a political agenda to make you sound condescending.

well I don't have the slightest idea how you could ever claim that dearborn doesn't give back to the community, it's certainly not a one-sided relationship.

Besides, despite a large muslim population, it's an incredibly multicultural place. And pretty much everyone speaks English at at least a passable level. All the kids who grew up in the USA are as American as you or I, they just celebrate different holidays, look a little different, and eat different food. What's so bad about that? They talk like kids I know, act like kids I know, play the same sports, make the same stupid teenager mistakes, go off to college, get jobs... The blending in starts fast, another generation and the lines will be even more blurred...

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Fri 29 Jul 2011, 02:44.

dumb bitches like this bring great shame to my people... blondes everywhere cry today.

She probably isn't even a real blonde. cnut.

Quote from flymike91 :

I see that understanding as mostly one-sided: Western society accepting and accommodating

'accepting and accomodating' with bombs and missiles...

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

'bout right... I've taken it before and it was around there somewhere.

I'm all about that folk metal. I usually listen to it when I'm pillaging, raping, burning, and drinking mead, but sometimes also when I crochet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk

gratuitous flowchart:
http://www.comicvsaudience.net/images/flow_heavymetal.jpg

I take what I said back, I'm used to Midwestern country roads... there is no terrain in the Midwest to speak of. I assume near mountains and stuff they could get pretty twisty.

Quote from flymike91 :

looks like the country roads in the UK are a lot like in Texas, flat and pretty straight. I really miss tearing up mountain roads.

I think that describes country roads pretty much everywhere

Quote from -NightFly- :

http://itnurk.com/urod/22370

Not only does this video have absolutely 0 relevance to anything we've been talking about, there is little to no context of the events preceding the arrest. My guess is that the officers standing right next to them told them several times nicely to cut it out and they were arrested for disobeying a police officer.

On a lighter note, it would appear they've arrested Racer X

Quote from flymike91 :

Rise against
I was talking about illegal immigrants, including those who overstay temporary visas and green cards. No one said the path to US citizenship should be quick or easy, it is a privilege that millions of people want but few are qualified to get. Illegal immigrants can ignore your flow chart.

Ah well, since we were talking about Hong Kong's legal immigration laws, I thought we'd parallel them with the legal immigration laws in the US...

Illegal immigration is another matter entirely, it's important to not mix the two issues.

Quote from flymike91 :

every immigrant would need to prove that they want to belong in the host country, either with money, skills, or family ties.

http://reason.com/assets/db/07 ... d06350cf1ddb5942ef5ad.jpg

huh. so how's that different than what it is now?

Quote from AndRand :

Really???
I thought that to be USA citizen you have pass exam on constitution and English... you opress poor immigrants with your dominant law and language...

France lately forbade burkas. What would you say if a woman killed herself for being punished for wearing burka?

The tests are pretty minimal. My buddy and his family lived here for a few years (from Mexico), and his mom was able to pass the tests when she got the chance. And it's tough for me to have a conversation with her in English. I speak better Spanish than she does English, so we get along in my questionable Spanish.

Quote :

Speaking Test
Your ability to speak English will be determined by a USCIS Officer during your eligibility interview on Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.

Reading Test
You must read one out of three sentences correctly to demonstrate an ability to read in English.

Writing Test
You must write one out of three sentences correctly to demonstrate an ability to write in English.

Civics Test
There are 100 civics questions on the naturalization test. During your naturalization interview, you will be asked up to 10 questions from the list of 100 questions. You must answer correctly at least six (6) of the 10 questions to pass the civics test.

You have two opportunities to take the English and civics tests per application. If you fail any portion of the test during your first interview, you will be retested on the portion of the test that you failed within 90 days.

more on topic, what do I have to do to land myself in a Norweigan prison? this place is nicer than my house...

http://www.time.com/time/photo ... y/0,29307,1989083,00.html

Quote from thisnameistaken :

but beef is pretty chewy.

If your burger is chewy, you've done something horribly wrong.

Quote from flymike91 :

Diversity without assimilation to the majority culture will always cause divisiveness, anathema to the healthy function of society

If you're ever up my way, visit Dearborn, MI. It's a great place, known for a huge Muslim population. They make some killer food in downtown, even if you can't read the signs or know what you're eating. I love it there specifically because it's different. I don't want everyone to be the same, that would bore the hell out of me.

Oh, and it's a very well kept place, and most of the people who live there have good jobs and definitely contribute to the society in a meaningful way.

Actually, I do wonder. Forums are raceless places, because we all hide behind avatars. I wonder who he's not-so-indirectly insulting right now, without even knowing it.

Quote from DWB :

Compare the upper midwest (Minnesota, etc) to South Carolina, or to Texas, and tell me their culture is indistinguishable

It's not. Actually very, very noticeably different when I go between Michigan and Georgia. USA's far too big to only have one culture.