Quote from anttt69 :

Gratz on yer win Andy, remember 'to finish first, first you must finish'.

133 points for it too... Sadly, being in Div 4 and not that fast, no chance of a certificate this season

Quote from JasonJ :

............which is nice


Try this for yourself, take a big square of cardboard 46" size. Overlay it on your screen and cut out a 22" "window hole" in the centre. Then adjust LFS so it looks as it did before on your old setup and just use the 22" hole as your screen. Then after you are used to that, take away the bordering cardboard. All the extra peripheral vision is flattened out on the sides of you ,which can give a sort of tunnel-vision effect which makes the car feel like it's snapping. I think it's more of an optical illusion. A curved screen or dome screen would feel better at these higher FOVs. Personally I use about 110 degrees (40" series 5 Samsung). It looks best to me when I make the ingame virtual wheel the same size as the G25 wheel.

Actually that experiment would require you use 130 FOV or something. Makes you realise how much of a huge step you have taken by going to 46"

that looks fantastic!

Will be interesting to see the new tyre model applied to the Mazda in 3 weeks when the next update comes. I'm hoping the Corvette comes too along with the Indy.

I really enjoy driving the Mazda, especially now I managed my first win on ViR Grand West ---- mainly because the majority of the field crashed

Quote from Paranoid Android :

Are you guys aware of any promotion so that I can try iRacing right now?

I am not sure if the Radical deal is stil on the table but there is the INDY option:

http://www.iracing.com/indy_promotion.html

Quote from tinvek :

hmm since i've hit a brick wall (and numerous tyre walls and a tree) trying to get the lotus dialed in consistently at VIR i may pay the mazda a visit, havent run it for a few months

not sure if it will help but it is a good starting point for ViR and stable!

Quote from richard dk :

I don`t dare to run that combo with a Pro license...

I thought the Mazda league would be less stress than in the skippy, due to the higher license needed to drive it.

Just managed a 3rd in the Mazda at Road Atlanta. Man, that track is a laugh with those cars but pretty intense! How the heck are the top people doing consistent 1.17's!!!!

Quote from jasonmatthews :

I find these posts regarding the price of LFS frankly ridiculous. Any other game that you try to buy on the shelves today will cost around £44.

The fact that Scawen (wrongly IMO), has branded LFS an alpha product and decided not to distribute LFS in the high street has compounded the issue. His latest post seems to agree that the alpha tag is no longer applicable.

From my personal point of view, I have never in my whole life experienced anything that even comes close to LFS in terms of value. £24 for 5 years of constant entertainment. I spend double that every month on Sky TV, which thanks to LFS, I never get to watch

Asking another £12, or whatever they ask, from users who have been playing the game since 2002 is absolutely nothing. We have all seen the alternative with iRacing, which thank god they have not decided to do. If, god forbid, then went down that route, I would have spent £100's in the last few years. Also, if LFS did go the subscription route, I would leave instantly. But what I would happily pay extra for is exactly what the community has been asking for, real tracks, with laser scanned quality (and hopefully bumps), and more content.

May I talk hypothetically for a minute..

Scawen wants to charge £24 for S3, on top of S2. So, LFS S3, for a new user, costs £46 (normal retail price for a game these days). For us it is £24.

For this money, they will spend the money on marketing and distributing LFS in shops, putting in 10 Real tracks, putting in 5 more cars in, surround sound, dx9/10 quality graphics, better physics, sanctioned races/servers.

So, if they did this, they could afford to hire some graphics guru's, get some tracks laser scanned, and increase the user base. With some sanctioned servers/leagues/comps aswell LFS could easily (IMO) take over iRacing. iRacing get's away with charging >£10 per month, plus content cost, for a product that is vastly inferior to what LFS "could" be, with a modest amount of investment.

Hypothetical over

LFS already has a huge physics update coming, a new car and the prospect of S3 on the horizon. This is not before time IMHO, but it will be free.

When S3 does come out, I hope it will be a big change, but I do fear that it won't. I hope to god that S3 doesn't cater for the pentium 3/4's that LFS caters for atm. It will be 2010/2011, and to expect the majority (probs 90+%) of the userbase to have to put up with shite DX8 graphics and 2 channel sound to please the tiny minority, in spite of the huge progress computers have made in the last 10 years since lfs was first released, would be a massive shame

/rant over

nice rant..... totally agree on the value. I just hope that with Rockingham coming that all the other current tracks are updated too to reflect tarmac with bumps. If not, Rockingham will make the other's feel even smoother than they currently feel.....

S3 for £12 will be great

I really want to try that Corvette!

it'll be here soon enough!

Quote from Scawen :

Correct, the S3 license will not be sold on the promise of things to come. Although we imagine we will add additional content in future, and hope for an improved balance between the content available for different licenses eventually, there will be absolutely no guarantee of that. New content may come very slowly or not at all - anything could happen. Anyone who upgrades to S3 must do so only if they think it is worth it for the new track and the new car.

It's been worth the cash by far so I can't wait for Rockingham as the first track with a more "real feel" tarmac.... so S3 it is

With that in mind Scawen, will it make life easier to redevelop the existing tracks having the rockingham track laser scanned and use that data to redo the tarmac for the existing tracks..?

Number : 43
Name : Andy Kirschetorte
Team : RSR2
License : Red Roof

Quote from dmwright :

What do you guys think?

Really like most of it... it's the fastest browser I've used so far and has all I need!

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hat's quite a lot.... I have to say after driving a night race on rFactor, it can be good fun. I think South City though, would look fantastic at night, especially if shop lights could be on and bright

Quote from Intrepid :

Anyone that takes the effort to moan about the development process of LFS needs to take a step back. You haven't invested in LFS, and nor have you been sold something that doesn't fit the description of the product when you bought. What are you complaining about???

I couldn't disagree more with you, sadly. Remember, it's a game in development, purely at alpha stage and not complete. You're buying in to the game as is to help its creation and completion. If it was ready for sale and not alpha or beta, that would be a different case!!

I still think its a wicked game and well worth the money for S2. I just think if you sell something then its not alpha really!

Quote from Dajmin :

Which of those would you prefer?

Simple, I'd like to give the dev's £12 for S3 whenever it's ready

George, it's really worth buying the S2 now. You might not get Rockingham yet but what you do get is well worth it! It's the best value game I have bought!

Last edited by StableX, Mon 21 Sep 2009, 11:18.

Will be great if Force India are up there again for this one. I hope Barichello wins it!

Quote from Doorman :

Almost everyone. In real life they only run track days there apparently. Silly little track.

good fun in the skippy though and in the legend advanced

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

Stable-x - Have you got a link to support what you've been saying? Can't go around saying a mod told everyone without showing the evidence, if your not going to post a link to it then stop saying it.

I can say what I want actually.... besides, it was mentioned indirectly, as I said above. When it was, I did some homework to read between the lines and yes, I got the info I wanted as a result.....

As Scawen said, any update will come when they are ready and not before and any info will contain what they want to put out.

We're a patient bunch anyway overall

number : 43
name : Andy Kirschetorte
Team : RSR2
License : Red Roof

Quote from rich uk :

Unless it's a double bluff. or even a double triple bluff!

Victor would never bluff. He's 1337!

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/1 ... reement_with_mclaren.html

Quote :

Former Formula 1 World Champion Kimi Raikkonen 'has signed an outline agreement' to return to McLaren-Mercedes in 2010, sources have revealed – in a move that would free up a place at Ferrari for Fernando Alonso, and likely see Nico Rosberg jump ship from Williams to current world championship leaders Brawn GP.

Quote from jwardy :

finally 5 pages for someone to click .

been known quite a while to be honest... just some people have bigger mouths than others!!! I just didn't go telling people like some we know

Quote from J@tko :

Nor would they expect the beta testers to keep their mouths totally shut about everything :rolleyes:

or mods

Quote from IlGuercio :

I agree,i prefer LFS to be fictional.
I never felt the urge to see a real track in LFS,tbh.

see it this way... at least with one laser scanned track, hopefully all the current tracks can now be overhauled so the tarmac isn't smooth using the data from the laser surface.

makes sense they do Rockingham though with the collaboration with V1 etc and what they are doing......