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Quote from BlueFlame :Have a problem with authority there Kev? Maybe you should go riotting, **** DA POLEEC

No, I have a problem with total bell ends, as you should be well aware by now.
thisnameistaken
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I'm sure there are some nice coppers but that one sounds like a total bell end.
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Nice to see some British youth showing some initiative.

Demonstrating that they are employable I suppose.
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Quote from Intrepid :blah blah compared to MILLIONS around the world these kids are millionaires.

Compared to dead people, starving people have NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD. They should stop MOANING about STARVING and be GRATEFUL they aren't DEAD.
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Quote from U4IK ST8 :Just seems crazy that he be allowed to carry that around with the way things are going over there. So if people started attacking their temple he could legally start chopping people up? Madness, imo.

No. He's legally allowed to carry it at all times. The moment he decides to poke it into a human he comes under the same laws as anybody else.
thisnameistaken
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I grew up around a lot of Sikhs (a small town bordering on Dewsbury) but I don't remember discussing kirpan sharpness with anyone. I was just shocked that they all had them.
thisnameistaken
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Is it some sort of weird game controller?
thisnameistaken
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Quote from U4IK ST8 :Sharp objects(swords/daggers) can be deadly and unless they are being used in a religious act they are illegal. The person in question was not performing any part of a ceremony so it is illegal for him to carry it in a public place, simple as that.

You don't understand the law. It's perfectly legal for that man to be carrying a kirpan, it's a requirement of his faith that he carries one at all times in case it needs to be used to protect the innocent against tyranny.

The law explicitly allows Sikhs to carry it. AT ALL TIMES. Please read and comprehend.
thisnameistaken
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WTF is that?
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Quote from Hyperactive :Center wingers?

Midfielders. They can be dangerous, even the ones from liberal countries - look at Nigel De Jong.
thisnameistaken
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Quote from P5YcHoM4N :Anything can be a weapon if you choose to use it as one. A chunk of iron isn't automatically a weapon because it is shaped like one.

I'm sorry but the kirpan is a weapon and is intended as such, that's the whole point of it. Sikhs are required to carry it for exactly the sort of purpose that this guy is displaying his.

I'm surprised it's allowed to be honest, it's a massive concession to a minority religion in the UK.
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Quote from andybarsblade :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... p;feature=player_embedded

They appear to be chanting 'EDL'. So presumably they're there to enjoy a fight with whoever blunders into Eltham with dark skin. **** all to do with a 'fight back'.
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Quote from JPeace :In fact, any topic that contains religious, political, racial or cultural beliefs in it will end in argument, you simply cannot discuss these topics on a forum on the internet in my opinion. This is not one persons fault, its just the way things are.

What's so bad about having an argument?
thisnameistaken
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I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that our habitual BBC public funding complainer doesn't actually contribute any tax to the economy at all.
thisnameistaken
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So are you a registered sole trader or some kind of limited liability organisation?
thisnameistaken
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So you haven't got a job?
thisnameistaken
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Incidentally Alan what is it that you do for a living?
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Quote from 5haz :Are there jobs or aren't there? Make your mind up.

Over 10% unemployment in Tottenham. I remember unemployment being around that level nationally when I was about to leave school in 1990 and most people where I lived had little expectation of finding work. It's as bad if not worse now, and we've got another sympathetic tory government to ease the pain...
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Quote from Intrepid :Wouldn't say lazy. They just have a different set of motivations. There will always be people attracted to criminality. No amount of youth clubs and state-bribery will stop it...

And how do you explain the fact that these people all seem to live in the same places? And would you go on to postulate that the lack of opportunity in those areas is a symptom of the malaise of the locals rather than a cause, or would that too myopic and preposterous even for you?

Quote from Crashgate3 :Yes, the issues of why it happened need to be discussed, but what's going on is illegal and people's lives and property need to be protected. I'm a huge liberal and pacifist but I think they need to get the hoses and teargas in there and start hauling these ****ers off to jail.

People need to be protected certainly. Perhaps if most of the police budget wasn't spent on surveillance hardware instead of police officers they might be doing a better job of that.
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Quote from Intrepid :There are communities of people all across the UK who didn't use excuses as to why they were poor. They got on with it, started businesses, become independent, and became part of the community.

Ah the classic land-of-opportunity belief, where the poor must simply be lazy.
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Quote from Intrepid :...but what about the less wealthy minority ethnic groups who came out to defend their community and defend their property? For example, the Turkish community of Dalston. They don't need youth groups to stop them rioting. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

Clearly they feel differently. Wasn't it Turkish-owned businesses they were securing? I would expect business owners to have a different experience to jobless youth, wouldn't you?

Quote from Intrepid :First it was the fact the poor didn't have healthcare, education and welfare that caused disruption. They have all that and still we get disruption and chaos because some youth clubs have closed down. I think people need to wake up a bit.

What we are witnessed is opportunist criminals. They've seen a window of opportunity to nick a load of stuff without consequence.

And they don't usually get any opportunities, so they're taking it with both hands. Personally, if I found a wallet in the street I would try to find the owner and return it, but if I was on benefits or in a shit minimum wage job I might just take the money. Yeah it's illegal and opportunistic, but if you can't get along any other way then maybe that's just what you do. And when you compare it to the way the so-called respectable members of society operate (most business owners with their tax calculations, MPs with their expenses, etc.) it's no different.
thisnameistaken
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I think when you get large groups of people, particularly when they belong to minority ethnic groups, who are mostly living in poverty and feel that they don't have any political power, stuff like this is going to happen. Clearly these people don't feel any sense of ownership of their own neighbourhoods or they wouldn't be causing destruction like this. It's an us-and-them thing, and if people feel that way then the only approach that will improve the situation is to try to include those people in wider society to a greater extent.

I'm not saying they shouldn't all get nicked for it, mind.
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Quote from franky500 :Saturday night was about a Shooting of a man who Reportedly was being tracked by Police, and then for some stupid reason it was chosen to stop him whilst he was in a Taxi, Police opened fire (for whatever reason) And he was killed. There was a gun found (it is quite vague as to weather he was actually holding it or not). But my view is if you want to be a bad ass carrying a gun or knife outside of any authority in the first place, you deserve what you get, if that means loss of life. so be it.

Same way Jean Charles De Menezes deserved to be exterminated on the tube for jumping the turnstiles (oh that turned out to be a lie) and wearing a long dark coat (oh that was a lie too) and looking shifty and stuff. Well he had brown-ish skin didn't he, and besides all the CCTV went missing so what are you going to do.

Quote from Intrepid :This isn't about anything other than grabbing a free TV and having fun. It's a mess.

The same way MPs used parliamentary expenses to steal tens of thousands of pounds each from the public purse? Oh no that was different because they're rich, so only a couple of scapegoats get prosecuted for it and the rest just continue as they were.
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :Liverpool most improved team in my view. Charlie Adam is a great Sottish player (one of a very small group) and with a fit Andy Caroll the 2 could link well and get a good partnership going on. If they hit it off the only thing that concerns me with Liverpool is a questionable back line in front of the keeper.

Liverpool have certainly spent a lot. Maybe if Adam does a good job supplying Carroll they'll have some success, but they must be gutted they spent so much on him now Barton is available for nothing. They've got better depth to the squad now but I don't see any eleven being a match for United.
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If it's not I owe Arox some diamonds.
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