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Viper93
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Is anyone heading out to this?
Viper93
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Quote from Gil07 :It's all fake

Germans are no more aggressive than anyone else. The video wasn't really even that funny for me.
Viper93
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Hehe no bike really is for the british roads. They are too rough with too many angry car drivers and too many road hazzards IMO. I used to bike in the states, I am afraid to ride on the roads here. They would be so bad if it wasn't for the farmers bringing so much crud on the roads right after a nice sharp bend.

Diesels go a long time and both should be decent. You know the signs of abuse, just go with the cleanest 1 IMO.
Viper93
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BTW Jak it's AWD not 4wd =P 4wd implies that all four wheels are directly connected and locked together without Limited slip or viscus diffs =P Least that's how I understood it.

THe RB4 feels like a boat to the FXO, but the FXO just doesn't have the power to keep up =P

OThmm does anyone else think that my use of smileys for punctuation is annoying?)
Viper93
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The RB4 will give you the best cornering speeds and by far IMO is the the 'best' car to have for any but the longest racetracks. The XRT has stability problems and is trickier to drive than the RB4 but offers a much higher strait line speed.

The FXO is by far the easiest car to drive and can brake the best but with the lack grunt compaired to the other two cars just doesn't perform that well.

The class is much more balanced now than it was, but nothing is ever perfect.

The RB4 takes a bit of skill to keep the momentum up so you can make up for the loss of strait line speed to the XRT but between the two is much easier to drive and is more forgiving when trying to get the ultimate pace.

For absolute pace, depends on the track. The XRT and RB4 are fairly even.
Viper93
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Have you figured out which one you are going to go with Danowat?
Viper93
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As Homer Simpson would put it. T.V. Ahhhh "instert drool here"
Viper93
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I was suprised myself how much areo downforce a Cup car makes. But then I looked at the shape. the TV does not do these cars justice.

Another thing is that the average banking is what? 20 degrees? Because of the banking there isn't a crown to get the water to go to one side or the other, it all goes down, usually into the pits. When it does come across the track there would be a fairly good bit of water running down, much more than a road course, over double in fact (on average a NASCAR track is much wider than road course)

NASCAR has never run in the rain, I guess why would you want to? It's a spectator racing, you get to see the whole track, all the action and all the cars at once. With rain there would be so much spray nobody would see a thing, including drivers. I know when I went to see you race Tristan I couldn't see where you were until you right across from me on the track, then you were gone again in a wall of spray. The drivers also wouldn't be able to see, so why try racing when it wouldn't be fun for the driver or the spectator?

When NASCAR was formed they decided it was a bad idea to try to race in the rain. I guess you will have to get a time machine to find out exactly why
Viper93
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As usual I "don't" explain very well =P

It's not the lateral forces that are the problem. It's the linear. The sidewalls have to be very stiff to keep the tire from blowing out from the almost 1400 lbs of force generated, on the right side it's probably creeping towards 2000, and they still have problems. Virtually each track they goto has a different type of tire that can handle the different amounts of linear force on the car for each track. I am still not explaining very well, but then I am american that grew up on a farm. Explaining things is something I am just not very good at =P

I had hoped that my numbers were wrong for the F1 car, that didnt sound right at all, was going to say that in my last post but you already posted =P I like those numbers much better. (double checked where I got the number, It wasn't nm, just n, I glanced too quick, the number I also came up with is just for the rear wing assembly...)

It may be possible that the 2000 lbs of downforce is including the weight of the car. I will have to look into it more later, but considering how much air these cars move it's very possible they create that much downforce.

NASCAR currently runs more like 1750 lbs of downforce for super speedways and closer to 2000 for the shorter tracks. The new COT car will have significantly less downforce from what I have been reading.
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Viper93
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Cmon Tristan Love to see you attempt to run within an inch of another car AND stay within a few inches of the wall at 200MPH, then we will see who's a pansy

NEXTEL only makes about 1500-2000 lbs of downforce, roughly. They don't release numbers anymore. The new COT car is to be said making less downforce than that. Back in the 70's it was the oposite and the cars then were making lift and were literally flying around the track.

Problem with running in the rain is that when they go into a banked corner they could pull as much as 4G's with the combined forces of turning and the banking. Because of that and these cars weight 3400 lbs the sidewalls are very stiff to be able to handle the forces and heat generated while driving constantly at that speed.

Because of the stiff sidwalls the slip angles are extremely low creating tire thats very, grip, no grip and very little in between and not a whole lot of room for error.

How much downforce does an F1 make? I found 1knm which makes about 740 ft-lbs.
Viper93
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Here is a link to the forum for MOE. http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=41

You can find any active league running a sub forum in the league and events section.
Viper93
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Quote from Shaun - SRT :Ah thank you too Viper. I'm checking them out now. That is exactly what I'm looking for.

Here is one question I have for this group. Do you think that the fact that people use name like "MFP_JoJo9" is detrimental to LFS?

I am much more accustomed to leagues that make you use real names.

Yes very much so IMO. If you want people to genuinly accept sim racing you will have to drop the online handles and use their real names.

Thanks Buddabing =)
Viper93
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STCC, broadcast type league with roughly 100,000 viewers per round. This is sanctioned by the CTRA licensing system that currently has over 14,000 licenses issued and runs over 500 pickup races a day.

http://www.simtouringcarcup.com/
Viper93
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I knew this was coming...

Bah, Mario Andretti, Jaques Villenueve, Alex Zanardi, all pansies...

If it doesn't take any skill race why don't these people have more championships than they do? The margins are different, but it still takes a ton of skill to run at the front.
Viper93
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Quote from tristancliffe :Actually, I quit enjoy the tintops in LFS (as long as they're RWD). I just can't stand anything to do with ISI, as it's invariable a waste of electrons.

Can't agree more there =)
Viper93
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Quote from tristancliffe :Yeah the 'groove' varies depend on where you drive, and how many other cars drive in the same places... It's not a cheap selling tactic like the awful StaticTrack they had in GTR (where the 'groove' is always on the same line). The downside of LFS is that the change of grip isn't yet modelled. But I've no doubt it will be (not that you'll tell in most cars tbh)

You really don't care for Tintops do you? =P
Viper93
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How many miles do you run during a year Danowat? If you run alot maybe the one with less miles would be better, I donno. If you do less miles than the cheaper one might be better.

I had a peugeot 306 TD and never had any real problems. Diesels should be good for alot of miles so that 40k in miles shouldn't matter TOO much and I would go with the cheaper one if they are the same age.
Viper93
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Quote from Krammeh :There wont be like 50 servers running it though.

Just a select few! I think it'll stop so many people attempting to create insim applications!

Sorry, I was vague. I meant more along the lines of what CD and CTRA already do. Another one couldn't hurt though =)
Viper93
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It's worth a shot, couldn't hurt =) Over saturation is what I am thinking about, but you never know until you try =)
Viper93
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Ahh, I must have misread then =P Sorry, it happens alot =)

There is already a global ban file, that nobody uses, with the wrecker barricade.

I am not seeing a difference than the CD/CTRA servers. What exactly would be different? Other than people can make their own servers, which could be both good and bad.
Viper93
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Problem with opening up for public access to licensed servers like this is that anyone and everyone would want their server licensed. Creating hundreds of licensed servers and you would be lucky to find 5 of them occupied.

Then it would be exactly the same as it was a year ago. Millions of servers with different combo's but nobody really on any of them. It's just now they would have points attached to them. Then you would get people complaining that nobody runs any other combo's other than GTRs at AS National for example.

It's a great idea, but giving the ability for anyone and everyone to create their own personal licensed server wouldn't work very well IMO.
Viper93
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Quote from wheel4hummer :Yeah, because you watch road course races with your eyes closed.

Might as well if it's raining, you can't see squat. Drivers or spectators.
Viper93
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Quote from ajp71 :Cost for an hour at my kart track: £30 (have to talk nicely)
Average speed: 18mph/28km/h

LFS distance: 32296 miles/51975 km

Time: 1856 hours

Karting cost: £55687
LFS cost: £89

Saving: £55598

Alternatively my fuel saving:

Average cost of super unleaded 102.9p/litre
Fuel used in LFS: 20723 litres
Fuel cost: £21323
LFS cost: £89

Saving: £21234

Hehe Here's mine

LFS Distance: 48,388m

Time spent on a kart track: 2688h

Total cost: £80,646


Fuel used in LFS: 21923 ltr.

Fuel Cost: £22558.77

LFS cost: £47

Total savings: £103,157.67


This isn't including tires, and general maintenance. Which IMO would probably add at least another 20k.

Quote from JTbo :Using F1 car as a daily ride, however if you could afford to do that, then gf/wife is probably still going to cost even more so I guess that is ultimate expense one could get

I am pretty sure this would be cheaper too. Wifes and GF's are EXPENSIVE! I can't put any parts on my car anymore =(
Viper93
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Becky has moved onto bigger and better things =) If someone else wanted to work on it and asked Becky nicely she would hand out the code for it? =P
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