I haven't heard much about those things since the beta testings, all I remember is people were saying the H shifter felt awesome, but they're pretty expensive..

Aww that stinks about the LEDs!

Yea .. god, I keep forgetting about DFP, it's a little more expensive, it really just comes down to how much you're willing to spend.

Just be aware lots of DFPs seemed to have breaking pedal issues :/

Texture is correct, it's just in LFS the vertex coloring is a dark grey, just change the output color on the material to make it darker, and all will be just fine.

Thank you sir, good to hear from the graphic master himself

Working on the low poly S2000 right now..

Okay then now that that portion is finally solved, lets move on to the next subject, one that.. I'm pretty sure there is no way to solve.


Forcing cockpit has been brought up so I will introduce the problem using this example.
Despite some people having slow computers or what have you, everyone can deal with forced cockpit whether they like it or not, it isn't technically a 'limiting' factor.. (yes some people's FPS will suffer dramatically.. but they can still play the game in the cockpit view..)

Forcing a clutch system.

There is one thing you guys haven't thought of yet.
The business factor, obviously you want to make everyone happy and increase sales.

So what do you do when you put something like this in that factors out real people from playing the game?

I'm talking about handicap people, yes they are around on the game.

Sorry but this is a real problem, you may laugh it off and think it's a joke but this is serious stuff and has to be considered thus i'm bringing it up.

With forcing clutch, you may be limiting some people that don't have H shifters etc. But.. they can still buy them, they are on the market, doesn't mean they can afford them.. but they are there.

What do you do with a handicap person that can't do something? You're basically telling them they can't play because they are handicapped which.. honestly is just wrong.

There was one guy back in the days of RSC that was handicapped and was talking about how he used his paddles as his gas and brake since he couldn't use his legs.

What do you do in such a situation, seeing you can't give a programmed option a single person "excuse"

:doh: that's right, eric did a full interior redesign (i'm still stuck in the golden ages)

As for being semi or full auto.. sure it can, just go into options and there it all is

It's there to make the game more playable.. for everyone, LFS is meant to get a broad scope of everyone and not worry, it has always been like that.

I think I rember coming across this game too about the same time I came across LFS, like.. a long time ago, it was.. BEYOND terrible.

The graphics.. look cheesy lol but, looking at the pictures of it, I do love the telemetry on graphs! Would be nice to have some stuff like that in LFS.. (suspension travel kinda stuff)

Because who SAID it IS a manual car???

For all we know the GTi is whatever we want it to be whether it be (hence the OPTION) H gate, flappy paddles, or fully automatic!

And that hasn't changed in all of LFS, in fact it didn't use to be H gate, back in the good old days all you had the option of is either sequintial or automatic

So you're then telling me that all of Honda's small car line up is a fraud by adding flappy paddles that actually do something?

You don't have to use a clutch with paddles.. why should you have to in LFS?

Who says they have a manual stickshift?



Mazda 3 with a boot over the gear selector.. it looks like a manual to me at first sight, but underneath that boot is a bunch of plastic and a heavy trans

Mazda 2!

It's close to the same price as the swift sport

http://farm4.static.flickr.com ... 3096874341_e24f8f5986.jpg

Yea.. who says every car made is a manual car?

Quote from SidiousX :

If you have a MOMO, you don't need the paddles for shifting, like I said before, use the sequential shifter for shifting, and the paddle for clutch...simple as that!

But I use the paddles for shifting like MOST cars do...

Congrats on owning the ugliest wheel ..

But seriously that thing looks kinda cool, do the LEDs at top work? Or have you tried to get them to work at least?

Get a Momo racing if you want FF but are cautious about expenses, G25 obviously if you want best of best

1 A keyboard has how many buttons? This thread is about wheels and clutches, not buttons or keys for that matter

2 The world we live in.. seeing that just about any car that has paddles is an automated gearbox

3 .. I don't know lol I must've missread something

4 uh yea

5 Because in LFS I don't treat a clutch like you're supposed to, it's either clutch in or clutch out for me with my pedal in LFS, nothing in between, do that in any car and you'll stall it, make it jump, etc. etc.

I have a momo racing, but it is entirely uncomfortable to hold a button for a few seconds, and pressing a button 400 times back and forth on the track... will hurt.

It doesn't matter if it's manually operated or not, this thread is about making things "as realistic as possible" using a button for a clutch is hardly realistic by any means to begin with!

It doesn't matter if it's properly designed in LFS or not, that's what we have.. deal with it.

I mean if you're really set on making it right, then buy everyone here that doesn't have a wheel and clutch set a G25 or some ACT Labs parts if they still make it.


Using my clutch pedal and H shifter messes me up driving my real car as it is, using a clutch button.. No.

No, he's talking about ssr_nick

This thread is on thin ice you guys.

Everyone here [should] know how to treat people, failure to do otherwise is against the rules of the forum. Every comment in this thread is an oppinion, i'm not denying that, we all know our rights and wrongs (and lefts I hope).

There is a great old golden rule saying from forever ago..

If it's not nice.. don't say it!

and if you think it should be said, then do so in a polite manner, it's just a forum you guys, you may never meet a soul in person on here so why make yourself out to be a worse person?

Quote from carey :

Well I do, so it wouldn’t be.

.. what wheel do you have???

So you're saying you would rather see more people go off the track trying to shift and getting carpal tunnel in their fingers than anyone that can shift with pedals like a normal car....?

Button clutch is never real, show me a car that has a button for the clutch and I will think reconsider.

There are cars that .. don't have manual pedal clutches, and those that are semi autos where you shift but the clutch is all automated.. you can get one in your car if you honestly wanted, but a clutch 'button'?

I think not.

Quote from logitekg25 :

just realised that has a hard top, and i am tired...sorry =P and the wheel thing was a joke

oh..

btw.. its a Gallardo lol

Quote from SidiousX :

last time I checked, you don't use the clutch with the sequential transmissions in LFS

... you .. dont

but we're talking about everyone here that doesn't have an H gate shifter.. what would they use to shift.. if you're to busy using a paddle as a clutch

LOL WTF?!?!
HAHAHA

What on earth are you talking about? What RAC and what wheels???? LOL!

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Quote from XCNuse :

Or am I just insane.

Yes

Ahhh.. I KNEW IT!

I think we've had enough, it is a symbol, as is any letter in the alphabet.

Thread closed.

Don't both of those paddles control the same clutch though..?

I thought there were two to make it easier for the driver?

Use right clutch paddle to shift up using left gear paddle, and left clutch paddle to shift down using right shifter paddle?

Or am I just insane.

What about sleep/hibernate/system off and you get back on and your car is missing?